Nightglimmer

Nightglimmer

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After a shitty month filled with the worst suicidal thoughts and impulses I have ever had, I'm feeling okay enough to book another appointment with my therapist. However I'm wondering how much I can tell her without being hauled off to the hospital, since that is something I want to avoid at all costs. To give some context during this month I decided to accept the fact that I was going to kill myself, I set a date, and the only thing that prevented me from going through with it (keep in mind that I would certainty be dead if I did) was a phone call from a friend who asked me to hang out, which brought me out of my mental fog enough to see how far my suicidal thoughts/impulses have gone and control them. However right now I am not actively planning to kill myself, and through my searching of the internet I could not come upon a clear answer as to if an almost-attempt would be okay to talk about if I was not actively suicidal. So my question is, what can I talk about without providing a reason to be hospitalized?
 
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Morphinekiss

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Jun 8, 2019
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My therapist and I often talk about how I feel suicide is an acceptable end life option, and how I have it as an option for myself, but as long as I'm not actively trying to ctb or planning he doesn't involve anyone else. However, he's been my therapist for 3 years and we are both very upfront and blunt about things with each other, so I know I can openly discuss being pro-choice with him.

I guess I'm saying how well do you know your therapist? Have you broached the subject before? Will they take your word you are not now actively suicidal?
 
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Mikulal1995

Mikulal1995

A bipolar, depressive mess.
Jul 15, 2018
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Morphinekiss brings up an important point. How much do you trust your therapist? What kind of rapport do you have with them? How long have you known them? It would be wise to err on the side of caution. I have a friend who's been in and out of the hospital twice in two weeks and it's a miserable cycle I wouldn't wish on anybody. Usually, they have you sign an agreement or consent when you begin seeing them. What does it say about suicide and mandatory reporting if you're in the US?
 
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azucaramargo

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After a shitty month filled with the worst suicidal thoughts and impulses I have ever had, I'm feeling okay enough to book another appointment with my therapist. However I'm wondering how much I can tell her without being hauled off to the hospital, since that is something I want to avoid at all costs. To give some context during this month I decided to accept the fact that I was going to kill myself, I set a date, and the only thing that prevented me from going through with it (keep in mind that I would certainty be dead if I did) was a phone call from a friend who asked me to hang out, which brought me out of my mental fog enough to see how far my suicidal thoughts/impulses have gone and control them. However right now I am not actively planning to kill myself, and through my searching of the internet I could not come upon a clear answer as to if an almost-attempt would be okay to talk about if I was not actively suicidal. So my question is, what can I talk about without providing a reason to be hospitalized?
I am so glad you got that phone call. I wish our friends knew how much power they had.
 
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memento_mori

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Mar 28, 2019
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as long as you don't seem like you are actively planning, or your ctb methods sound impossible to your therapist it should be ok. I think normal people have occasional suicidal thoughts from time to time, it's normal under stressful/ horrible situations
also they have to check if you will harm other people.
 
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Severen

Severen

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I just avoid therapists.
 
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Going Home

Going Home

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Sep 21, 2018
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Not much. Anything you say can be twisted and used against you.
 
Bulletwbttrflywings

Bulletwbttrflywings

My soul is awakened... and I’m f*cked
May 29, 2019
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After a shitty month filled with the worst suicidal thoughts and impulses I have ever had, I'm feeling okay enough to book another appointment with my therapist. However I'm wondering how much I can tell her without being hauled off to the hospital, since that is something I want to avoid at all costs. To give some context during this month I decided to accept the fact that I was going to kill myself, I set a date, and the only thing that prevented me from going through with it (keep in mind that I would certainty be dead if I did) was a phone call from a friend who asked me to hang out, which brought me out of my mental fog enough to see how far my suicidal thoughts/impulses have gone and control them. However right now I am not actively planning to kill myself, and through my searching of the internet I could not come upon a clear answer as to if an almost-attempt would be okay to talk about if I was not actively suicidal. So my question is, what can I talk about without providing a reason to be hospitalized?
As long as you contract for safety then you should be fine. Contracting for safety means saying you don't have immediate action plans on hurting yourself or others.

Hugs dear, seems like you've been through the wringer as of lately.

This is my personal experience dealing with therapists and inpatient treatment in the US.
 
mamiko9399

mamiko9399

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Jun 14, 2019
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Its difficult to say.Everything depend from therapist really..
Yhey are better and worse,some just make everything as a protocol,other works like a robots and taking everything as a questionare...but you could found one which doing hes job with passion,care,are pretty clever and can really good read you even if you are master of manipulation.

I'm a pretty,pretty good ppl reader.Im a observator,analise ppl behaviour,gest,way how they speak in which sittuation,whats is their norm etc etc
But my therapist was as welk this "clever one"
So I know how I should control myself,whats avoid to pretend perfectly...Once I make mistake which she catch so quick and I was in trouble and took much efford to straight situation.
 
tomz323

tomz323

Walking to the bus stop
Mar 29, 2019
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How do they hospitalize you anyway? By force..?
 
Nightglimmer

Nightglimmer

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May 18, 2019
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How do they hospitalize you anyway? By force..?
Technically if you are seen as enough of a threat to yourself, they can involuntarily commit you. In which they will force you to go to the mental ward and stay there for anywhere between a couple of days to weeks depending on how mentally unsound you are. I'm absolutely terrified of that possibility and am trying to avoid it at all costs.
 
mamiko9399

mamiko9399

Member
Jun 14, 2019
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Technically if you are seen as enough of a threat to yourself, they can involuntarily commit you. In which they will force you to go to the mental ward and stay there for anywhere between a couple of days to weeks depending on how mentally unsound you are. I'm absolutely terrified of that possibility and am trying to avoid it at all costs.
I think its also dependent from Country.I mean-its can happen everywhere but rules are much diffrent,time on hold etc
You have to or be relly,really carefull or-know enough system to know how manipulate and pretend
 
Severen

Severen

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Jun 30, 2018
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Well put yourself in his or her shoes... Someone expresses to you, he or she has suicidal thoughts. And you are his or her therapist... What if your patient, CTBs the next day? What would happen to you even if you don't give a shit or you are pro suicide deep down inside or think psych wards are evil places? Are you willing to risk your life to avoid putting one of your patients through a shitty experience? What if you have mouths to feed as well
 
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