imastain

imastain

bleh
May 3, 2023
27
so its basically this idea that god does exist but he's malevolent and our souls are perpetually entrapped into reincarnating on earth by malicious tricks employed by false gods and his puppets.
 
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willow115

willow115

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Oct 9, 2024
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I used to be gnostic and converted back to Christianity. The extensive metaphysics of Christianity and the fallen, sick world makes sense to me. Demonic influence and oppression makes more sense to me than archonic feeding fests. The intuitive feeling of this theory is true. We are being drowned and manipulated by forces outside what is seen. St. Paul spoke of this and a lot of gnostics like his statements. Christ spoke extensively on this and I believe his revelation.

So I have opinions on it but gnostic thought is a place to drown yourself. It's a demonic trap in my opinion, ironically.
 
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Al_stargate

Al_stargate

I was once a pretty angel
Mar 4, 2022
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Yea I'd probably agree. I think that this world is ruled by negative force that wants to keep us here so it can maintain its kingdom. If god is out there he doesn't give a shit. Has anyone noticed that if you're a good person the amount of shit you gonna have to deal with is exponentially bigger. Like scumbags and terrible people almost always have it easy, everything is given to them but if you're a good person and have a good heart you gonna have to deal with unimaginable amount of bullshit, everything gonna be made as difficult as possible.

I think that this negative force that rules this world rewards people that do bad karma because that means they gonna be trapped here for long long time. But if you're a good person the negative force will do anything to prevent you from developing spiritually because that would mean you'd eventually break the chains of reincarnation. I used to think that if I'd give my fate to god that he would protect me and guide but that was pure bullshit. God turned his back on me first chance he got despite promising otherwise. Now I kinda believe that god is not infallible and that he doesn't really give a shit so why should I give a shit about him.

I tried my best and all I got was bad things happening. Health issues, body issues, severe abuse and humiliation, speech difficulties, no opportunities, prejudice. I managed to still overcome a lot but only to be even more fucked eventually. Fuck god, I realized he doesn't give a shit, he doesn't have any sympathy for good person, he doesn't like me, so why the fuck should I like him and kiss his ass. I believe god is narcissist and the nature of that condition is malevolence. Once you realize god is piece of shit than everything falls apart, there is no meaning anymore, everything is lost, only suffering remains. If I could go on living my life without that cancer that calls himself god, I would, but he already ruined my life so that's why I feel ctb is the only option.

If spirituality works for someone than by all means go for it, I'm not trying to dissuade you, but please don't be delusional. To God you're just an ant, he has no sympathy for you. There is no fate, no greater purpose. You just need to look around to see that's the case. Everyday 25 thousand children die from hunger and malnutrition. The most innocent creature dealt with the most terrible fate. I had good things happen to me because I was spiritual, I learned a lot, it set me on right path for a lot of things but on the other side, being good is gonna get you hurt in life.

World is evil and negative force will prey on you, arrange things in your life to sabotage and try to ruin you. Negative force also controls big chunk of people that it will use to try and ruin you. If you are good and spiritual hide it as best as you can, don't signal anything, try to stay as ambiguous as possible in life because like I said some people are servants of the devil and as soon as they sense goodness or naiveness in you they gonna attack you and scheme against you. Don't become evil like others but realize that being good and spiritual gonna cause you huge problems in life and god is not coming to your rescue.
 
Dr Iron Arc

Dr Iron Arc

Into the Unknown
Feb 10, 2020
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I think in an actual prison, the wardens are more likely to want to make themselves a constant presence to torture their subjects. I think if God really was a full-on asshole, then why the secrecy? Why even give people the hope that he spawns by being coy and vague all the time? I'm sure God's true moral alignment is simply unfathomable to us mere mortals, assuming he even is real though.
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
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I think if a God does exist, they have a very strange moral compass. Unless there really is some greater good we just can't grasp.

I've always thought the prison planet theory was more to do with simulation ideas- like in the film 'The Matrix'. So- more like aliens who kind of 'farm' us or whatever. I don't really believe that either though.
 
AvaCutey

AvaCutey

Pragmatist
Oct 9, 2024
42
We exist because the human race is entropy increasing. And very good at it. Everything that we ever see exist is entropy increasing on the whole.

All the things which were unexplainable historically, god was responsible for it. But Rain, thunder, gravity, chemistry, electrodynamics. The gaps where the god of the gaps resides is getting smaller and smaller.

What's left for god to explain? Souls, morality? If all the previous cases were not god but limited understanding, what makes the rest of the gaps different.
 
Demian

Demian

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Mar 25, 2024
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There is a theory that a portion of the fallen angels came to earth in human form to pay their sentence and learn from their mistakes. As a result, they are reincarnated. So reincarnation is only valid for fallen angels in human form so that they can experience the consequences of their rebellion in heaven. It would be more or less as if the earth were a prison for them.
After it's over, they can go home to heaven.
 
Csmith8827

Csmith8827

Don't you listen to your heart? (Listen to it...)
Oct 26, 2019
895
I don't know. It's an interesting theory. I definitely feel like this earth is a prison and I'm trapped here and I definitely want to escape. Whether that's through death or going to another world I don't know. I feel like I'm just in financial chains at the moment...I mean I have a job but it doesn't pay much and I'm trying to save up for an RV and stuff. Once I do that I think I'll feel like I'm less in a prison and more free...at least that's what I'm hoping. I feel like I'll actually wanna get a guitar and play and a keyboard etc...i dunno. We'll see. Hopefully when I get all this out of state court stuff handled I'll be accepted into a CDL program and I can just drive trucks for a living and make bank. Then I could afford a nice place to live, like an actual house or mobile home or something and like try to live a regular life. All this stuff is messed up though and I definitely want off this planet. I've had SN in the past but didn't take it cause Covid broke out and I had to get a plane ticket home and didn't take it on the plane because they said no poisons and I didn't want to risk it. Realistically I should of CTB a long time ago with a gun but divine intervention happened and my ID came up missing the day before I was going to get my gun/day of. I really wish that hadn't of happened but I was looking at a rifle then and not a shotgun so IDK how that would have gone. I could probably get a shotgun at a gun show now but it's so hard to be in that state of mind to where you can pull the trigger.

In conclusion I think the planet is fucked up. Do I believe God to be malevolent? Possibly but not entirely. I don't think He's wholly benevolent or malevolent homogenously like all the way through. I think He's both... good and evil. Possibly even leaning towards evil but IDK. šŸ¤·

Just going off my life experiences and what I've seen/deduced...
 
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