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Eger512

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Sep 27, 2018
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//Sorry for my English
My plan is this:

0) 12 hours before the start, drink an antiemetic in a usual dosage. After 6 hours, repeat.
1) Drink an antiemetic (cercul) 5 tablets of 10mg
2) After 30 minutes, drink phenobarbital (diluted in alcohol) about 10-15g (I do not remember how much substance there is)
3) As soon as I start to feel that I'm falling asleep - drink 15 g of sodium nitrite diluted in water

Are the cons?
 
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raskolnikov

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Aug 10, 2018
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I would not mix with sn. I would take higher amount of phenobarbital, because it is less effective than pentobarbital.

Also, dont mix with alcohol, it is not reccomended. You can drink a shot before and some after eventually.

My 2 cents.
 
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Arak

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Sep 21, 2018
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@Erger512,

I'm not sure if phenobarbital is effective. It is mainly used as an anticonvulsant. Tolerance may matter. Why would you dilute it in alcohol ?
Actually I read that one of the symptoms of pheno overdose is nausea. Honestly, I don't know if it is effective at all. Part of the reason it is easily available is that at best it is very hard to die of pheno overdose !
 
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Eger512

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Sep 27, 2018
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@Arak,

Phenobarbital - a strong sleeping pills. That's why I'm going to drink it.
And the main substance is sodium nitrite.
I have phenobarbital dissolved in alcohol. But it can be evaporated, this is not a significant problem.
In occasion of vomiting - I wrote that I will drink an antiemetic.
 
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Arak

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Sep 21, 2018
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@Eger512 ,

Note: I haven't studied the option of suicide by pheno. I think of pheno as a barbiturate that is mainly used for its anticonvulant effects. have you ever tried a lower dose to see how it affects you ? Keep in mind its long half life, it can take forever to get it out of the body.

Here, I wouldn't rely on it as a source: https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Phenobarbital
'In terms of energy level alterations, this drug has the potential to be extremely sedating and often results in an overwhelmingly lethargic state. At higher levels, this causes users to suddenly feel as if they are extremely sleep deprived and have not slept for days, forcing them to sit down and generally feel as if they are constantly on the verge of passing out instead of engaging in physical activities. This sense of sleep deprivation increases proportional to dosage and eventually becomes powerful enough to force a person into complete unconsciousness.' I can't say the description appeals to me.
 
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Eger512

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Sep 27, 2018
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@Arak,

In my country, it's impossible to get pure phenobarbital. You can not even buy it with a prescription.
But phenobarbital dissolved in alcohol (18.26 mg / ml) is very easy to buy.
Yes I tried it, like sleeping pills it works well
 
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raskolnikov

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Aug 10, 2018
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@Arak,

In my country, it's impossible to get pure phenobarbital. You can not even buy it with a prescription.
But phenobarbital dissolved in alcohol (18.26 mg / ml) is very easy to buy.
Yes I tried it, like sleeping pills it works well

It's a very low dosage to kill you. Could help if you plan to take Sn. But reports say that Sn is not that reliable or anyway would need higher dose. I would think of Sodium azide instead.

If you want to try to ctb with phenobarbital only, I think you would need at least 0.5 litre of that solution. 0.7 better. (700ml * 18.26 mg/ml = about 12g which is reccomended dose for pentobarbital. So still not sure. Maybe 1 litre could do the deed. Surely easier would be getting N).
 
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raskolnikov

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Aug 10, 2018
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What is the "N" ?

pentobarbital (N stands for first letter of its old commercial name, look wikipedia for more info). it is the fastest acting barbiturate. There are various thread about it on first page of this forum, including a "megathread". You have to be well informed on what you're going to do to not fail
 

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