What are the chances I live from a 9mm to the side of the head?

[Ktenacious007]

I'm in Florida rn. Spending Christmas by myself. Planning on driving back to Michigan and ending it.
Planning on ending it saying goodbye to family on the phone, don't want to be alone when I end it if that makes sense. How long do you think it will take me to die after using a 9mm to the side of my head? Using a hollow point. I know guns and ammo well and know hollowpoint is the better option but afraid a hollowpoint might not penetrate my skull or that a 9mm is too small and might ricochet. Or that I don't have enough blood loss to die by the time emt get there. Or that I don't go unconscious and it will be painful. Or that the pain from having the gun blast right near my ear and I don't die how painful it would be. Anyone know anyone that used a 9mm and died?

 

[WornOutLife]

I don't have a clue but I guess if you aim properly you will feel damage for only a seconds and then die.

 

[Throwmyselfaway]

I plan to use a 9mm myself. I'm confident enough with handling and shooting that I can do this and it's all over. I know someone that went through the mouth with a 9. I believe it was over quickly based on what I heard after

 

[Eurus]

Michigan be safe driving lots of snow

 

[summers]

A 45 would be the better choice...

 

[gtrfvr]

I plan to use a 9mm myself. I'm confident enough with handling and shooting that I can do this and it's all over. I know someone that went through the mouth with a 9. I believe it was over quickly based on what I heard after

i plan on going through the mouth. not sure of the angle but not really buying the need to be too precise. when i practice i aim for where i think the brain stem is.

 

[Isadeth]

Typically if shot accurately and no flinching, you're gone before you even hear the sound.

 

[Ktenacious007]

I plan to use a 9mm myself. I'm confident enough with handling and shooting that I can do this and it's all over. I know someone that went through the mouth with a 9. I believe it was over quickly based on what I heard after

My 9 has a 4in barrel, I can't fit it in comfortably.

 

[DrWh033]

Brain stem is the key

 

[Ktenacious007]

A 45 would be the better choice...

I thought so too but after watching penetration test through cinder blocks. 9mm out performed every bullet besides .357 sig. .45 barely made it through the first cinder block

 

[Deleted member 24006]

Brainstem up-n-back a little not side of the head ......

 

[summers]

I thought so too but after watching penetration test through cinder blocks. 9mm out performed every bullet besides .357 sig. .45 barely made it through the first cinder block

That's actually why the 45 is better. It had more energy, but is moving slower. This means more of the energy would get transferred to your head. The 9mm would go right through, carrying a lot of velocity. This means less energy and damage to your head.

But in the end, while the 45 would be better, the 9mm would certainly be fatal in most instances. Even if not immediately, the trauma would kill in shirt order.

 

[Manford]

i plan on going through the mouth. not sure of the angle but not really buying the need to be too precise. when i practice i aim for where i think the brain stem is.

So you think that is a better option vs the side of the head ? Stats show most people go the the side. I would be worried about missing the brainstem via the mouth.

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[self_destruct]

My plan is to aim right above my right ear. Most of your brain will be right there and there's an extremely small chance you'll live as long you don't flinch too much when you shoot. I have no fear of it failing.

 

[HenryHobkins]

it happens but its a very very low possibility

 

[Nymph]

The mouth or back of the head would be better so it hits the spot asap

 

[WinterisComming66]

My plan is to aim right above my right ear. Most of your brain will be right there and there's an extremely small chance you'll live as long you don't flinch too much when you shoot. I have no fear of it failing.

Better shoot through the ear though.

 

[lonerclown666]

i am afraid in using a gun because i am afraid of survive and the death will be very painful

 

[ThrownAwayTom]

I saw a guide in the resources here once that explained how in the mouth and aimed at a 45° angle upwards has a much greater chance of success than the side of the head.

 

[Kruger]

I'm in Florida rn. Spending Christmas by myself. Planning on driving back to Michigan and ending it.
Planning on ending it saying goodbye to family on the phone, don't want to be alone when I end it if that makes sense. How long do you think it will take me to die after using a 9mm to the side of my head? Using a hollow point. I know guns and ammo well and know hollowpoint is the better option but afraid a hollowpoint might not penetrate my skull or that a 9mm is too small and might ricochet. Or that I don't have enough blood loss to die by the time emt get there. Or that I don't go unconscious and it will be painful. Or that the pain from having the gun blast right near my ear and I don't die how painful it would be. Anyone know anyone that used a 9mm and died?

Depends on whether you get the angle right. Remember there will be some movement when you pull the trigger and that needs to be taken into account. Failures seem to occur when the angle is straight up; from under the chin going straight up. It takes your face off and you survive horribly deformed. Plenty of pictures of survivors online. As I understand it, you need to aim towards the back (not upwards) to hit the brainstem.

 

[ob600]

behind the ear. or in mouth. in both cases, aimed at brain stem

 

[Ktenacious007]

That's actually why the 45 is better. It had more energy, but is moving slower. This means more of the energy would get transferred to your head. The 9mm would go right through, carrying a lot of velocity. This means less energy and damage to your head.

But in the end, while the 45 would be better, the 9mm would certainly be fatal in most instances. Even if not immediately, the trauma would kill in shirt order.

Damn. That makes sense. I just traded in my .45 MP shield. And got this. Now I'm regretting it. Was afraid the .45 wouldn't penetrate my skull from point blank with only a 3in barrel

 

[summers]

@Ktenacious007 you could always pick up a used highpoint 45 for $100-$200.

 

[lost_soul83]

I'm in Florida rn. Spending Christmas by myself. Planning on driving back to Michigan and ending it.
Planning on ending it saying goodbye to family on the phone, don't want to be alone when I end it if that makes sense. How long do you think it will take me to die after using a 9mm to the side of my head? Using a hollow point. I know guns and ammo well and know hollowpoint is the better option but afraid a hollowpoint might not penetrate my skull or that a 9mm is too small and might ricochet. Or that I don't have enough blood loss to die by the time emt get there. Or that I don't go unconscious and it will be painful. Or that the pain from having the gun blast right near my ear and I don't die how painful it would be. Anyone know anyone that used a 9mm and died?

Don't shoot the side of your head, put it in your mouth and aim for the brain stem. You'll be dead before you hit the floor.

 

[justpeachy]

i plan on going through the mouth. not sure of the angle but not really buying the need to be too precise. when i practice i aim for where i think the brain stem is.

ummmm being precise with a 9mm is really needed. i work in the emergency department and have seen many people live from gunshot wounds to the head from both suicide and attempted murder. most were with 9mm. if you are not very precise about hitting the proper locations you will likely end up either brain damaged or may even be fine after some rehab depending where it goes. if i were you i would put maybe even 10 min of research in the resources section assuming you would rather not be in a worse state than you started it after your attempt but you do you, what do i know?

 

[ob600]

ummmm being precise with a 9mm is really needed. i work in the emergency department and have seen many people live from gunshot wounds to the head from both suicide and attempted murder. most were with 9mm. if you are not very precise about hitting the proper locations you will likely end up either brain damaged or may even be fine after some rehab depending where it goes. if i were you i would put maybe even 10 min of research in the resources section assuming you would rather not be in a worse state than you started it after your attempt but you do you, what do i know?

.357 does the trick

 

[justpeachy]

.357 does the trick

It definitely can. But the reality is some people even live from shotgun suicides which are by and large the most fatal out of any typical and easily accessible gun (not saying a .357 is a shotgun btw) There is absolutely no 100% way that at least someone out there has not lived through. We even have had a member and EXIT and other groups like Diagnatias has had people survive major N overdoses. Reality is there just isn't any 100% method. But you take that chance.

 

[ob600]

It definitely can. But the reality is some people even live from shotgun suicides which are by and large the most fatal out of any typical and easily accessible gun (not saying a .357 is a shotgun btw) There is absolutely no 100% way that at least someone out there has not lived through. We even have had a member and EXIT and other groups like Diagnatias has had people survive major N overdoses. Reality is there just isn't any 100% method. But you take that chance.

are there lasting effects from N survival?

 

[MrOptions]

That hollow point coming out of a 9mm, at point of contact, to the temple, your brain won't even register you've been shot. Worst case you bleed out after a few minutes at most. You will be unconscious just from the wound channel that hollow point will make in your head.

 

[justpeachy]

That hollow point coming out of a 9mm, at point of contact, to the temple, your brain won't even register you've been shot. Worst case you bleed out after a few minutes at most. You will be unconscious just from the wound channel that hollow point will make in your head.

Temple is actually not the best area to aim at. Many people live from temple shots (particularly with 9mm) or under the chin (more so with shotgun due to flinching). I am not going to state the best location but if someone is interested if you read the book by Geo Stone that's called like Suicide Attempts or Suicide Methods (you may be able you find a copy in the resources!) he goes into great detail about what is and isn't a good location amoung other things. That book is really the best book on methods imo. Very detailed. You can also find the information about best location is the resources section in various resources. The one thing I will say about the temple, the whole point for a quick death is to hit the brain stem. But aiming directly at the temple you chance not hitting the brain stem and not hitting anything that will 100% cause brain death. There are many cases of people living from 9mm temple shots if you just search it on Google. And these are verified medical journals citing it not just random people that could be dishonest.