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noname223

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I guess not that many due to the fact this forum isn't called "sanctioned-life"

I have an autistic friend who loves life. He doesn't want to procreate because he says life as autistic person is too hard. And I appreciate this reflective take. But when I am talking to him he tells me so many stories about health. How unhealthy it is never to exercise. I never exercise. And when I say never I mean never. I don't benefit from it Actually, I really hate it. I like cognitive stimulation doing sports feel like a waste of time. I know this is a very stupid thought. Exercising helps to stay stable, eases stress, helps to sleep, helps against depression. Actually, I never experienced something like that. In clinics I was forced to do sports. It was sometimes fun but I wouldn't do something like that voluntarily. In my mind I need to be efficient when it comes to time management. I try to read/listen to as much text as possible. I think also this is very stupid. Due to the fact you can read as much text as you want if you are unable to filter and contextualize them you just drain in a flood of information. This is why I watch lectures. I want the ability to contextualize. However, I had to quit college over health issues. Two years after college my life quality is so much better. But for my epistemological journey it is probably counterproductive. I also have to learn that I shouldn't spend 99% of time with politics or philosophy. Sometimes breaks can help you to increase the pace of reading after you had time to recover. I stat rambling.

You know I had a resting pulse close to 100. Probably over 100. When I was in part time college I had to abuse benzos and z-medication in order to cope with the stress. And this fucked up my already fucked up vegetative nervous system even more. It feels like hypervigilance probably due to childhood traumata. I always thought death would be the solution for my problems. If I just cease to exist my problems were solved. But I knew my family and friends would have to carry on with this burden. One reason why I thought suicide is a doubleedged sword. And then I had the thought what if I just died over an illness. If I worked myself to death. Or died of an heart attack. When I worked my ass off as student in school I always thought maybe I will have a heartattack over this stress. Instead I developed a psychosis. Dying seems to be pretty hard. Even though, in Japan there is the phenomenon karoshi. I somewhat wanted to die like that. My conclusion is: often it doesn't work out like that. Having a very unhealthy lifestyle won't make you die that quickly. You might die faster but the road will be pretty rough. I take antipsychotics and there are studies that people who take antipsychotics have a decreased life span of 20 years. However, the causality is unclear. I found this fact interesting. But maybe one reason is obesity and my antipsychotic doesn't increase my weight (gladly I would hate that).

There was a time where I really thought fuck health. I neglected my dental hygiene. Now I really regret that. Gladly I only did that 2-3 years when I was in an extreme major depression but now I am way more strict on that. And I am quite happy about that fact. When I was going through that benzo withdrawal it felt like dying. It really felt like a living nightmare. I wasn't well aware about the whole impact on my health. But when I came to a clinic and a nurse tested my body functions she told me that my resting pulse is really insane. I also felt like fainting often and my blood pressure was really low. I lost weight, I felt nauseous and I had no appetite. I had malnutrition to that time. All of that felt like dying. But actually I was quite alive and in pain. I think playing Russian roulette with your health can bring a lot of pain in your life. And the likelihood you immedtiately die over it is low. The human body and psyche are a survival machine.

Why this topic? I watched my favorite pop-scientifical Swiss show this time about longevitiy. And the two interviewees. had the goal to live as long as possible. I don't want to scare you but here is a concept that was mentioned. Longevitiy escape velocity.

Here is a short summary:
Longevity Escape Velocity (LEV) is a hypothetical tipping point in medical technology where life expectancy increases faster than the time passing.

In simpler terms, if science advances enough to add 13 months of life expectancy for every 12 months that go by, we have technically "outrun" death from aging.

The Core Mechanism
The concept, popularized largely by futurist Aubrey de Grey, suggests that we don't need to solve "death" all at once. Instead, we only need to buy enough time through current medical breakthroughs to survive until the next wave of even more advanced technology arrives.
  • The Ratio: The goal is to reach a 1:1 ratio where for every year you live, science discovers a way to extend your life by at least one year.
  • Incremental Gains: Initial therapies might only add 10 or 20 years, but during those extra decades, the compounding speed of AI and biotechnology is expected to produce the next level of rejuvenation.
I don't think it will be forced onto people though. I think one of them said we might reach that point 2035. But that's probably bogus. In the TV show they also said the cells of people who are going through major depression age faster than people who are mentally healthy. Moreover, there was the question raised whether people would actually adapt their behavior (like smoking) when they did genetic tests that can predict their likelihood for developing lung cancer. Actually, I think many people wouldn't change their behavior anyway.

They said there are no oberserved effects that ascetisicm would increase the life span. As teenager I was into ascetisim and coping with suffering. I think all my mental pain made me age quite fast. But I don't want a speed run. I never would want to smoke. It is unattractive, costs way too much, and risks are way higher than the benefit. (pleasure). When my personality changed with 15 I became really sceptical of shortterm joy. I became quite principled. However, I always hated life and my goal certainly wasn't to maxx my life span.

My friend told me quite often that a higher resting pulse increases the likelihood of a stroke or heartattack drastically. And he really achieved that I am now looking more after my health. I don't want to end up as a vegetable. I think though my mental health is the way bigger problem. I will never get rid of this extreme anxiety. And that my body collapses one day in the future might be only a matter of time.
 
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In my mind I need to be efficient when it comes to time management.
agreed

traditional, intentional exercise is rarely the only form of beneficial exercise, yet it's the only one that unapologetically wastes your time. it benefits you and you only. nothing around you has changed; you've done nothing for anyone or anything else. people have to convince themselves they like the gym, the most artificial, boring, and repetitive environmentI've ever seen. or their crappy 'natural park' with mowed lawns and zero wildlife. counting the commute, it's a total waste of an hour, gas money, and probably $10 a month for the gym membership. the only form of exercise i'll accept is taking on laborious housework my parents can't do or that I'm paid to, or hiking. i'm either helping someone, getting paid, or having fun. the only benefit can't be just 'it's exercise,' either i or someone else has to be getting something else out of it alongside it.

you should also look into low risk, mindless exercises you can do casually. banded leg lifts while lying down, curling or stretching often while you're sitting. its not cardio, but it's good for circulation and maintaining your muscle, and you don't have to stop whatever you're doing.
 
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Interesting! this made me think of Bryan Johnson- a man who was/is obsessed with not aging- even going as far as to inject his own sons plasma for six months (1 litre every month). Lately I am trying to be more proactive with my health- but nothing crazy like that. Mostly cutting out processed foods, and since literally a few days ago taking supplements for deficiencies. I would like to get into fitness, since i feel very weak and would hope to feel more comfortable in my body.

You mentioned becoming skeptical of short term joy- it made me wonder how you look at joy/happiness now? Do you still think that they are just short moments or is it possible to be a " happy person" - what does that mean to you? do you think it is possible for yourself?

I also recognize myself in what you say- I think mental health struggles also take a toll on our health. It can't be good for the body to be in such a stressed/hypervigilant state for a long time., Sometimes I just cant move because i lack so much energy. Many times I thought I was in the process of dying because everything felt too heavy. Sometimes A bit sad- since it is out of my control- but okay, it is out of my control.
 
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Interesting! this made me think of Bryan Johnson- a man who was/is obsessed with not aging- even going as far as to inject his own sons plasma for six months (1 litre every month). Lately I am trying to be more proactive with my health- but nothing crazy like that. Mostly cutting out processed foods, and since literally a few days ago taking supplements for deficiencies. I would like to get into fitness, since i feel very weak and would hope to feel more comfortable in my body.

You mentioned becoming skeptical of short term joy- it made me wonder how you look at joy/happiness now? Do you still think that they are just short moments or is it possible to be a " happy person" - what does that mean to you? do you think it is possible for yourself?

I also recognize myself in what you say- I think mental health struggles also take a toll on our health. It can't be good for the body to be in such a stressed/hypervigilant state for a long time., Sometimes I just cant move because i lack so much energy. Many times I thought I was in the process of dying because everything felt too heavy. Sometimes A bit sad- since it is out of my control- but okay, it is out of my control.
Bryan Johnson also was mentioned in the show. He measures his erections and the erections of his teenage son. Creepy.

To myself. I try to have a somewhat balanced life now. I am certainly someone who struggles with obsessions and extreme behavior. I think I am also prone to addictions. At the same time I think I am quite reflective. I reached a state where I allow myself to enjoy more. I feel way better without too many duties. Duties were always associated with pressure and this decreased my sleep quality significantly. I am still very hard on myself but without external pressure I am feeling way better. And sometimes I have moments of pleasure and joy. Thanks for commenting. :)
Sending hugs and love! :)
 
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Bryan Johnson also was mentioned in the show. He measures his erections and the erections of his teenage son. Creepy.

To myself. I try to have a somewhat balanced life now. I am certainly someone who struggles with obsessions and extreme behavior. I think I am also prone to addictions. At the same time I think I am quite reflective. I reached a state where I allow myself to enjoy more. I feel way better without too many duties. Duties were always associated with pressure and this decreased my sleep quality significantly. I am still very hard on myself but without external pressure I am feeling way better. And sometimes I have moments of pleasure and joy. Thanks for commenting. :)
Sending hugs and love! :)
Yikes, I didn't know about measuring the erections.. I guess it is even possible to be unhealthy while healthmaxxing haha.
 
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