Vomiting. What happens if you don’t call an ambulance?

[FallenX]

What happens if you take SN, throw up and don't call an ambulance?

COULD you end up with bad brain damage and other horrible things while remaining alive? Could you possibly go into a coma then wakeup weeks later in a vegetative state?

How reliable is it to work without a good chance of the above happening if you don't abort the attempt after vomiting and call for help?

 

[GerMann]

Maybe terrible Gastric Ulcers.

 

[CrushedHopes]

I don't think there will be neurological damage. But if you are not successful and you choose not to call an ambulance, you should continue with the method by drinking another glass of SN to finish the deal.

 

[CaptainT]

@FallenX We have the same questions in mind :)

I agree with @CrushedHopes, having another glass on standby. A lethal dose of SN is something tiny (less than 2mg) so getting more than 15-20mg down you will do the job I think. I remember reading reports of people who've vomited but still gone unconscious (they were only saved because people found them)

 

[trynacbt]

^agreed.
Otherwise, you might have cyanosis for a while and people can notice/catch on to what you've been doing...

 

[FallenX]

I don't think there will be neurological damage. But if you are not successful and you choose not to call an ambulance, you should continue with the method by drinking another glass of SN to finish the deal.

Yeah I know that but what if you vomit that too?

@FallenX We have the same questions in mind :)

I agree with @CrushedHopes, having another glass on standby. A lethal dose of SN is something tiny (less than 2mg) so getting more than 15-20mg down you will do the job I think. I remember reading reports of people who've vomited but still gone unconscious (they were only saved because people found them)

Yeah median lethal dose Isn't much more than 6 grams. My worry is I vomit go unconscious but don't die and end up a vegetable or with severe brain damage. All cause I didn't call for help.

 

[SinisterKid]

No one here can offer you a definitive answer. Anything is possible, any outcome could occur. Probability wise, its unlikely there will be any lasting effects, but you might also be the exception to the rule. If you are not comfortable with all the possible outcomes, then it might be better to look for another method that you are comfortable with?

All anyone here can offer is conjecture and opinion.

 

[Are you lost too?]

No one here can offer you a definitive answer. Anything is possible, any outcome could occur. Probability wise, its unlikely there will be any lasting effects, but you might also be the exception to the rule. If you are not comfortable with all the possible outcomes, then it might be better to look for another method that you are comfortable with?

All anyone here can offer is conjecture and opinion.

No lasting effects for those who were found quickly ... I think that if it takes longer to be found, there may be some brain damage, because of continued lack of oxygen.
Of course this is also a guess...

 

[Neville1]

COULD you end up with bad brain damage and other horrible things while remaining alive? Could you possibly go into a coma then wakeup weeks later in a vegetative state?

Could you please stop inflicting your obsessive phobias on others? You've posted 5 times about the possibility of brain damage. This, your repeated concerns about the reduced effectiveness of domperidone with acid reducer and warnings about possible adverse effects of meto constitute nearly all your posts. The repititions could be trolling as it's fear mongering without any new information.

Since this is bothering you so much, could you please find another method and stay away from SN?

 

[FallenX]

Could you please stop inflicting your obsessive phobias on others? You've posted 5 times about the possibility of brain damage. This, your repeated concerns about the reduced effectiveness of domperidone with acid reducer and warnings about possible adverse effects of meto constitute nearly all your posts. The repititions could be trolling as it's fear mongering without any new information.

Since this is bothering you so much, could you please find another method and stay away from SN?

It's a possibility no one seems to discuss here. Read some of the posts on meto here. People have had TD symptoms and more from doing the regimen. Or go beyond the forum.

It's not fear mongering. It's discussion of real possibilities. There is a black box warning for meto for a reason. I didn't make that up. SN causes brain hypoxia. If you live Without getting medical help that equals brain damage

It's easy to say it's a phobia until you're the one actually doing it and dealing with all the possible negative effects that can happen if you fail.

 

[khw777]

No lasting effects for those who were found quickly ... I think that if it takes longer to be found, there may be some brain damage, because of continued lack of oxygen.
Of course this is also a guess...

True but wouldn't you be passed out at this point and on the way to ctb?

 

[WhiteDespair]

True but wouldn't you be passed out at this point and on the way to ctb?

Depends on whether or not the MetHb is metabolized or not.

Kinda like alcohol intoxication.

 

[khw777]

Depends on whether or not the MetHb is metabolized or not.

Kinda like alcohol intoxication.

It is a good question to ask. When do you throw in towel.

 

[FallenX]

I wish it was so simple because then I'd just take the SN and antiemetic ASAP. But there's real possibilities for stuff to go wrong and we don't know any cases where people didn't call the ambulance and we found out what happened.

That's what scares me. It could be this is super reliable and they CTB or they are now so brain damaged they can't post

 

[WhiteDespair]

Think of it like alcohol intoxication.

A small enough amount will make you sick.

More will make you pass out.

Enough will do you in.

It depends on how much is metabolized before you vomit, etc.

 

[FallenX]

Think of it like alcohol intoxication.

A small enough amount will make you sick.

More will make you pass out.

Enough will do you in.

It depends on how much is metabolized before you vomit, etc.

Alcohol intoxication doesn't cause cerebral hypoxia at most dosages. SN can keep you alive but brain damaged IF you don't call for help IMO. But then you're screwed too because you'll be sectioned and won't know if the SN would have worked.

I wonder if the pain of azide is worth it. Probably not because it can go boom before you even use it. And if you're somehow rarely saved holy hell you'll be worse off than SN.

 

[999888]

Well, the lethal dose of SN is 5g, then if you take 15g and vomit you will probably die the same way if your body absorbs at least some of it, but it may take longer (so it would be good to take another dose again)

 

[FallenX]

Well, the lethal dose of SN is 5g, then if you take 15g and vomit you will probably die the same way if your body absorbs at least some of it, but it may take longer (so it would be good to take another dose again)

That's what I'm trusting in. That I'm taking such a high dose that even if 4g is in the vomit it's still game over for me. Plus redosing. It's just scary when you're at the point of doing it and think about every possible outcome

I'd take 25g

 

[trynacbt]

That's what I'm trusting in. That I'm taking such a high dose that even if 4g is in the vomit it's still game over for me. Plus redosing. It's just scary when you're at the point of doing it and think about every possible outcome

I'd take 25g

If you're doing it in a place where you won't be interrupted, I wouldn't worry.

 

[FallenX]

If you're doing it in a place where you won't be interrupted, I wouldn't worry.

No interruptions but I worry about vomiting on Domperidone and the fact I can't use acid reducers. I can get meto easy but I'm so scared of even a test dose. Dystonia and tardive dyskinesia would make me CTB immediately.

Really I worry about vomiting in general. I did a test dose of 15g sea salt in 50 ml water no anti emetics and felt fine no vomiting

 

[Brick In The Wall]

Think of it like alcohol intoxication.

A small enough amount will make you sick.

More will make you pass out.

Enough will do you in.

It depends on how much is metabolized before you vomit, etc.

This is the best answer here. There are too many variables at play here. Vomiting on it's own is not a sign that you'll live or die as either is still a possibility.

 

[FallenX]

This is the best answer here. There are too many variables at play here. Vomiting on it's own is not a sign that you'll live or die as either is still a possibility.

And that's the scary part. If you live without immediate help but enough hypoxia in your brain but not enough to kill you = vegetative state?

 

[Brick In The Wall]

And that's the scary part. If you live without immediate help but enough hypoxia in your brain but not enough to kill you = vegetative state?

It's rather unlikely and most members won't admit to it, but yes anything is possible here. It's technically a deadly poison, we aren't talking sugar water here.

There is no recorded incident with this method of such a thing. Not like say hanging or gun related. But nothing can be ruled out entirely.

 

[Are you lost too?]

True but wouldn't you be passed out at this point and on the way to ctb?

Sure !!! If you're not found right... that's why it is so important, making sure you're not found.

 

[FallenX]

SN seems like an almost perfect substitute to N. if you don't vomit. I may just say fuck it eventually cause I can't find a more peaceful reliable method. N nope. SA can blow your face up before you take it.

 

[khw777]

SN seems like an almost perfect substitute to N. if you don't vomit. I may just say fuck it eventually cause I can't find a more peaceful reliable method. N nope. SA can blow your face up before you take it.

I feel you. I worry about all the things you metioned too. There is a lot of grey area about SN that concerns me. There is a huge whole between vomiting and getting medical help. What scares me is what if it goes wrong!?

 

[WhiteDespair]

I feel you. I worry about all the things you metioned too. There is a lot of grey area about SN that concerns me. There is a huge whole between vomiting and getting medical help. What scares me is what if it goes wrong!?

There's gray in everything. Right or wrong, make your choice.

 

[truthseeker]

This is my dilemma with this method.

 

[Quinlor]

Vomit is just puke

 

[khw777]

Vomit is just puke

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