Discussion video streaming

[sleepy dog]

I have thoughts of streaming a video of my exit on my laptop. I am not sure of doing this, but I am considering it.

It would need to be a private stream of course. The video could be recorded by a desktop software. Or it could be recorded by the streaming software. I could use software to shut the laptop off after a certain number of hours.

Does anybody have a lot of experience with video streaming software. Does any of the software have both the private feature, and the recording feature?

 

[Brick In The Wall]

I'm sure it could be done, as it has been in the past. There's probably a plethora of different ways to go about it. But in my opinion it could open you to additional risks and complicate logistics a bit.

 

[The Hunter]

If it is safe for you, I would appreciate it very much. will your method be the SN? I need to see a video of SN, to encourage me and answer questions.

 

[TimeToBiteTheDust]

I know ctb it's very very personal and it's only your choice to share it or not. If you don't want it's ok.

 

[The Hunter]

I know ctb it's very very personal and it's only your choice to share it or not. If you don't want it's ok.

I share the same opinion too. No one needs to expose themselves for the sake of others.

 

[Quarky00]

Wanted to do the same, could run a script not just to shut down but wipe my storage;) I don't know where this could be uploaded/recorded on the other end or how it would be disseminate. "I need to see a video of SN to encourage me" for law officers and the pubic would be a social bomb that 'encourages mass suicide'. I'm a software developer (well, I was..), I can setup a stream server at home and/or uploaded recorded chunks via ftp to overseas private server or whatever, but afraid of a law enforcement overwork this because it's 'such a horrible thing' etc.

What are the other options? This is 30 minutes stream that need to be recorded and shared (obviously not in mainstream platforms).

Somewhat discussed here:

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/ill-ctb-soon.28827

You could stream a webcam or a security cam with VLC. There's an option there to stream and open local device. The other person watching will have to record it. Or it can be recorder locally, but then uploaded from your local computer to a server, after recording ends, that is after ctb. It may require opening ports in your router, and that stream can be password protected, but it won't be fully secure/private/anonymous/untraceable like private messaging (WhatsApp, Telegram, idk), though I personally don't find this an issue. If one of the private messaging platformed allowed long videos and recording, and that could be easily share in a safe way, that's perfect. I'm using Linux servers so I have other options to stream but worried about other issues (distribution, accessibility, safety of viewers).

 

[sleepy dog]

I need to make this clear. I was not asking if it would be right or wrong. I was asking if somebody knows of video streaming software for the PC that has privacy and possibly recording features. The recording is not so important. It could be recorded on somebody's PC as its streaming using other software.

 

[lostangel]

I am not sure about PC. But another great way that is easy and can be private is to make an Instagram account. It can be throwaway if you want it to only be people from ss who view you doing your method. All you need is a smartphone. Just start the live on Instagram. Heres a video on how

Make a thread on ss when you do it. Give the name of the account make your Instagram public so everybody can see the live. You won't have to worry about cops that much because the only people who are gonna see the live are people who are searching up your name. You can go somewhere discrete if you are afraid of people coming for you.

Example
Insta name: CtbThrowaway123
announce on ss: Livestreaming now + name of the method
Make sure there is a few watching( maybe 6) so they can record it for educational purposes that it's peaceful. If your method is SN, Ingest it
Give updates on your symptoms.
Until you pass out

Hope this helps and gives you an idea. You can add to this if you want :). Best of luck

 

[Quarky00]

Note there's (1) streaming, your PC is basically a tiny youtube, (2) private video chat between 2 people.

For the first you could test VLC to capture webcam and stream it (check stream options). It can also record. For the second something like Skype, Viber, WhatsApp (list here) have PC software and could be used. Just brainstorming here.

* Be mindful about stream on mainstream platforms; it can be quickly flagged and stopped.

 

[Moonicide]

I don't know about Instagram. I mean, what about the followers? Isn't there like a log of the people that follow you? I guess they could unfollow after the stream is over. But I get so paranoid.

 

[sleepy dog]

I think, I am not sure, but I think I have decided to not stream video of it. I wanted to contribute to the success rate of SN. I also think we need to see others going thru it and what it is going to do to us. I really think its a necessary thing. But I might survive. Somebody could put the video online. It could be seen by an employee of my mental health clinic. Or somebody could call the authorities and report a suicide attempt. My IP address could be traced and I might be "saved". I am already being controlled by the mental health system. I was caught in possession of N. Forced drugging. I don't need more problems in that way. So I most likely won't be doing the streaming video thing.

 

[HereToday]

If you're going to do this, I'd do it with exit international only instead of a public stream. Exit use this as a way to find out the reliability/peacefulness of a method
If you don't want to do it of course that's also perfectly fine!

 

[sleepy dog]

If you're going to do this, I'd do it with exit international only instead of a public stream. Exit use this as a way to find out the reliability/peacefulness of a method
If you don't want to do it of course that's also perfectly fine!

I said "It would need to be a private stream of course." in the first post of this thread.
I didn't say I would be doing a public stream.

Exit International would only use it to make money for themselves. Many people have had problems with them. They kick members off their forum and accuse them of sharing links to info on their forum with other websites, or accuse them of violating terms of service. But that's impossible because their site is private. They sometimes delete people's ePPH accounts before the 2 year subscription is done. They just accuse them of violating terms of service, but they didn't. They discriminate against the "mentally ill". It seems Nitschke is "mentally ill" himself. It seems they get their money from people, then get rid of them so they can do less work on the forum. And they delete subscriptions to force people to buy another subscription. They are simply bizarre. Forget them.

 

[HereToday]

I said "It would need to be a private stream of course." in the first post of this thread.
I didn't say I would be doing a public stream.

Exit International would only use it to make money for themselves. Many people have had problems with them. They kick members off their forum and accuse them of sharing links to info on their forum with other websites, or accuse them of violating terms of service. But that's impossible because their site is private. They sometimes delete people's ePPH accounts before the 2 year subscription is done. They just accuse them of violating terms of service, but they didn't. They discriminate against the "mentally ill". It seems Nitschke is "mentally ill" himself. It seems they get their money from people, then get rid of them so they can do less work on the forum. And they delete subscriptions to force people to buy another subscription. They are simply bizarre. Forget them.

I assumed it would be for people in this forum to watch, which is what I meant by public. I had no clue exit had such as bad reputation, I'm surprised it's not talked about more since everyone loves the PPH on here

 

[Quarky00]

I'm still up for it.
Stream won't be published but to few, no mainstream platforms, IP could not be traced easily, not worried about future usage. Only problem is how to share video afterwards (making it accessible) without it being 'encouraging suicide'. Any ideas?

 

[a.h]

I'm still up for it.
Stream won't be published but to few, no mainstream platforms, IP could not be traced easily, not worried about future usage. Only problem is how to share video afterwards (making it accessible) without it being 'encouraging suicide'. Any ideas?

What about IMEI code. Aren't there those in laptops too. IP is easy to change with good VPN. There are also programs to switch IMEI in phones and to any device.

Where I live Police chief said in interview that they can't trace phones etc. if those both are changed. So they made it illegal in my country to switch IMEI number as if anybody cared. Now just more people do it for anonymity in Internet even they do nothing criminal. Google Play etc. is filled with apps for both.

 

[Moonicide]

If you're going to do this, I'd do it with exit international only instead of a public stream. Exit use this as a way to find out the reliability/peacefulness of a method
If you don't want to do it of course that's also perfectly fine!

Wouldn't there need to be a process to do that though? Like do we have to be old / have chronic illness? I know most people don't see chronic mental illness as a good reason to ctb.

I said "It would need to be a private stream of course." in the first post of this thread.
I didn't say I would be doing a public stream.

Exit International would only use it to make money for themselves. Many people have had problems with them. They kick members off their forum and accuse them of sharing links to info on their forum with other websites, or accuse them of violating terms of service. But that's impossible because their site is private. They sometimes delete people's ePPH accounts before the 2 year subscription is done. They just accuse them of violating terms of service, but they didn't. They discriminate against the "mentally ill". It seems Nitschke is "mentally ill" himself. It seems they get their money from people, then get rid of them so they can do less work on the forum. And they delete subscriptions to force people to buy another subscription. They are simply bizarre. Forget them.

That is absolutely horrible. Thank you for sharing this information with us.

 

[wannabenorwegian]

What about IBAN. Aren't there those in laptops too. IP is easy to change with good VPN. There are also programs to switch IBAN in phones and to any device.

Where I live Police chief said in interview that they can't trace phones etc. if those both are changed. So they made it illegal in my country to switch IBAN number as if anybody cared. Now just more people do it for anonymity in Internet even they do nothing criminal. Google Play etc. is filled with apps for both.

Isn't IBAN something from the Financial System? I think what you are meaning is the MAC address, that should be unique for every device that connects to the Internet. That address can be changed, but I've never done it before, because it's only seen by the Wifi Router if I remember correctly. And I almost always use to connect to the Internet at home, so..

 

[thelastchicken]

I'm still up for it.
Stream won't be published but to few, no mainstream platforms, IP could not be traced easily, not worried about future usage. Only problem is how to share video afterwards (making it accessible) without it being 'encouraging suicide'. Any ideas?

I guess with a carefully prepared discourse before proceeding would be possible to influence people's interpretation of your choice to share.

 

[Quarky00]

What about IBAN. Aren't there those in laptops too. IP is easy to change with good VPN
. . . .
Police chief said in interview that they can't trace phones etc

I don't care about IBAN, that's bank account details, I'll be dead.. I have anonymous credit card etc..
- MAC address - used to identify "network card" in a local network , by your internet provider .
- True , phone calls are really hard to trace , but 4G won't do , it's a 30-120m video . For the same reason Tor is not useful here , even low quality video requires stable bandwidth .
- VPN indeed safer .

- I'm not in EU/US and local LE are dumb . This must come from Feds/US . Much like France-Spain N raids were initiated by US . Now , contacting local LE , the entire process , contacting host for IP , contacting ISP - doing that in 3 hours is highly unlikely ;)

- Hosting server is dead cheap these days , I can buy some space and upload there , but LE will eventually contact hosting company and it will be removed . Someone needs to download it for future members etc . And viewers must be protected ( viewers IP addresses would be exposed in server log , should LE decide to pursue , though it is not a quick and easy process - warrant etc - but they may do so ... ) .

 

[a.h]

I am so sorry. I meant to write IMEI code (in phones it's usually under the battery or in the back of it). With free apps people can also check it.

People who do anything that needs to be unidentiable with phones use often prepaid card for Internet and VPN and IMEI changer. If they don't have IMEI changer they will only use that phone for that and no personal calls or emails from the same phone. Criminals still buy used phones and dumb old ones often to be totally safe in Internet.

You have valuable info. I have always wanted to know more about Internet staff especially security. Police here can bring back the deleted info from phones and laptops etc. from last 2 months. But isn't that just photos and files? Or can they bring back Internet activity also? I use duck duck go, VPN etc. but will still dumb the devices in case before going.

But in any case the one who has gone to afterlife wont care for sure.

- MAC address - used network card"[/I] in a local network , by your internet provider .
- True , phone calls are really hard to trace , but 4G won't do , it's a 30-120m video . For the same reason Tor is not useful here , even low quality video requires stable bandwidth .
- VPN indeed safer .

- I'm not in EU/US and local LE are dumb . This must come from Feds/US . Much like France-Spain N raids were initiated by US . Now , contacting local LE , the entire process , contacting host for IP , contacting ISP - doing that in 3 hours is highly unlikely ;)

- Hosting server is dead cheap these days , I can buy some space and upload there , but LE will eventually contact hosting company and it will be removed . Someone needs to download it for future members etc . And viewers must be protected ( viewers IP addresses would be exposed in server log , should LE decide to pursue , though it is not a quick and easy process - warrant etc - but they may do so ... ) .
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I don't care about IBAN, that's bank account details, I'll be dead.. I have anonymous credit card etc..
- MAC address - used to identify "network card" in a local network , by your internet provider .
- True , phone calls are really hard to trace , but 4G won't do , it's a 30-120m video . For the same reason Tor is not useful here , even low quality video requires stable bandwidth .
- VPN indeed safer .

- I'm not in EU/US and local LE are dumb . This must come from Feds/US . Much like France-Spain N raids were initiated by US . Now , contacting local LE , the entire process , contacting host for IP , contacting ISP - doing that in 3 hours is highly unlikely ;)

- Hosting server is dead cheap these days , I can buy some space and upload there , but LE will eventually contact hosting company and it will be removed . Someone needs to download it for future members etc . And viewers must be protected ( viewers IP addresses would be exposed in server log , should LE decide to pursue , though it is not a quick and easy process - warrant etc - but they may do so ... ) .