Method Unusual or interesting methods

[onewayroad]

I made a post in another thread about jumping head first into a volcano as a suicide method. The appeal of it to me is that I have always been a pretty outgoing and interesting person, and ending such a life in an interesting way would be how I would like to be remembered. My friends would say sure, he killed himself but man, what a way to do it. It's pretty shallow but hey, that's showbiz baby.

Anyway, what are some other methods you have thought of or heard of that seem interesting, noteworthy or stand out in some way?

 

[s_girl]

I always thought jumping from the Golden Gate Bridge would be awesome. The feeling of flying, the statistical certainty and the inner peace. The down side is a lot of them actually drown, high chance of getting 'saved' and it's too far from here...

Skydiving is impossible but would be a good way to go too I think.

 

[onewayroad]

Yeah drowning does not sound fun. What do you mean skydiving is impossible?

 

[s_girl]

Yeah drowning does not sound fun. What do you mean skydiving is impossible?

A fun way to go but not really a viable option for KTB because it must be done in tandem with an instructor, until you earn a license I think.

 

[lifeisbutadream]

Oneway - i like your volcanic exit!

S-girl - Have you seen the very excellent movie "the bridge"? it is all about people who jumped off the gg bridge.

 

[s_girl]

Oneway - i like your volcanic exit!

S-girl - Have you seen the very excellent movie "the bridge"? it is all about people who jumped off the gg bridge.

I haven't seen it but thanks for the recommendation. I'm going to look for it now! I've read and researched it a lot, as I was intending to travel to the US for the GGB but I've changed methods now.

 

[lifeisbutadream]

I haven't seen it but thanks for the recommendation. I'm going to look for it now! I've read and researched it a lot, as I was intending to travel to the US for the GGB but I've changed methods now.

I watched it several times and I'd like to watch it again. It is very haunting. I hope it's still online. One young fellow jumped and miraculously survived. He has, or had, a website. You can google him. They were planning to put netting around the bridge to stop jumpers. Maybe they already did. I don't know.

I found it. I don't think I'm allowed to post links here but i shall try...

 

[onewayroad]

I watched it several times and I'd like to watch it again. It is very haunting. I hope it's still online. One young fellow jumped and miraculously survived. He has, or had, a website. You can google him. They were planning to put netting around the bridge to stop jumpers. Maybe they already did. I don't know.

I found it. I don't think I'm allowed to post links here but i shall try...

Thanks, I was just about to post this exact link myself.

 

[406blue]

Head first into a volcano, i like your style. I like the idea of dying while doing something worthwhile, 'well he died doing something he loved'. Perhaps climbing up a very high mountain and dying from altitude sickness. Or trying to rescue a cat from a very high tree. You might have to take the cat with you to justify it... i mean take it up, not down and let the fire brigade deal with it properly once it's up there and you're not. Having said that, very high trees tend to have few branches. What started out as an interesting and abstract idea is becoming more complicated, as usual. Getting a cat into a small rucksack might prove tricky to get it up there in the first place. There remains the possibility of somehow getting entangled in the rucksack and hanging. This is getting surreal, i'll stop.

 

[Jon]

Heatstroke, is an option, as I've experienced it briefly and it was a pleasant experience. Though getting into a place to do it without being "rescued" would be tricky.

Buying a foot spa, or something that emits steam, and putting a small tent around you and it and slowly keep dunking your face into it until a you drown. Try hyperventilating yourself as mentioned on another thread so you pass out.

A dagger or sword, straight into your stomach and pushing up until it gets your heart. True, painful, but I think you'd quickly pass out from the loss of blood. I think this option is more appealing to those who want full control over their death, with no brain damage (at least not initially). Alternatively, positioning the sword securely and falling onto it. You'd need to be completely drunk to do this though because of the pain. Unlike guns, show swords are generally legal.

The latter method requires you to be in the right state of mind, raging with fury. I think sometimes anger can overcome even pain, not to mention increase your determination and courage.

 

[onewayroad]

Heatstroke, is an option, as I've experienced it briefly and it was a pleasant experience. Though getting into a place to do it without being "rescued" would be tricky.

Buying a foot spa, or something that emits steam, and putting a small tent around you and it and slowly keep dunking your face into it until a you drown. Try hyperventilating yourself as mentioned on another thread so you pass out.

A dagger or sword, straight into your stomach and pushing up until it gets your heart. True, painful, but I think you'd quickly pass out from the loss of blood. I think this option is more appealing to those who want full control over their death, with no brain damage (at least not initially). Alternatively, positioning the sword securely and falling onto it. You'd need to be completely drunk to do this though because of the pain. Unlike guns, show swords are generally legal.

The latter method requires you to be in the right state of mind, raging with fury. I think sometimes anger can overcome even pain, not to mention increase your determination and courage.

Dying by the sword is pretty appealing to me. But bear in mind samurai retainers would have someone to behead them after they stabbed themselves because usually the death wasn't instant and often they botched it. But damn, what an awesome way to go.

 

[Jon]

Dying by the sword is pretty appealing to me. But bear in mind samurai retainers would have someone to behead them after they stabbed themselves because usually the death wasn't instant and often they botched it. But damn, what an awesome way to go.

Yeah I read that on wiki, that another man would finish him off. But I've read numerous accounts from Ancient Rome that that was the most common method for men, as it showed courage and complete contempt for death. Cato the Younger (the man in my avatar) did it with a dagger, and when the physician tried to patch up the wound he ripped out his vital organs. He did it after reading Plato's Socrates, so he was getting himself mentally prepared, then he spent the whole night drinking, slept for a bit, then did it. Mark Anthony fell on his own sword.

I like these ideas just because I'd feel fully in control, and through sheer determination, I'd get the job done. That being said, it's difficult to imagine just how painful it would be. The mind can carry out whatever orders you give it, it just requires the will and the determination.

 

[onewayroad]

Yeah I read that on wiki, that another man would finish him off. But I've read numerous accounts from Ancient Rome that that was the most common method for men, as it showed courage and complete contempt for death. Cato the Younger (the man in my avatar) did it with a dagger, and when the physician tried to patch up the wound he ripped out his vital organs. He did after reading Plato's Socrates, so he was getting himself mentally prepared, then he spent the whole night drinking, slept for a bit, then did it. Mark Anthony fell on his own sword.

I like these ideas just because I'd feel fully in control, and through sheer determination, I'd get the job done. That being said, it's difficult to imagine just how painful it would be.

True, but what is a lifetime of emotional pain compared to a few minutes of physical pain? From a neuroscience perspective (I am a neuroscientist) all pain is essentially the same. When you look at it from a scientific perspective, pain is just an emotion. I can see how, with enough courage, these things can be overcome. But personally I don't think I have the courage to endure the physical pain of dying by the sword haha

 

[Battered_Seoul]

I stumbled upon a report concerning a nurse who had injected olive oil into her bloodstream causing a fatal fat embolism.

 

[Jon]

True, but what is a lifetime of emotional pain compared to a few minutes of physical pain? From a neuroscience perspective (I am a neuroscientist) all pain is essentially the same. When you look at it from a scientific perspective, pain is just an emotion. I can see how, with enough courage, these things can be overcome. But personally I don't think I have the courage to endure the physical pain of dying by the sword haha

Yeah, pain must have a limit. You'd need to buy rugby shields for your teeth and something to bite into so you don't alarm the neighbours as it would be natural to release your anger and pain through your mouth. As Epicurus puts it, if pain is too much it's at least short lived, if not, it's endurable. Though I'm with you, I'm not sure if I could do it either ;)

 

[406blue]

By comparison, my idea of going out heroically by trying to save a stranded cat seems a bit lightweight. Part of the reason the ancients died like this must have been linked to their concepts of the afterlife and the terrors that awaited them if they didn't do what was required of them. Such terrors don't exist to the same degree these days for many people. Whatever the method one chooses requires a lot of willpower, just less pain and sometimes more uncertainty about the outcome as a counterbalance. Modern society has made us much weaker mentally than the ancients, or even people living a hundred years ago. We want and expect life to be easy and also death when it comes to be relatively easy and painless.

 

[Jon]

By comparison, my idea of going out heroically by trying to save a stranded cat seems a bit lightweight. Part of the reason the ancients died like this must have been linked to their concepts of the afterlife and the terrors that awaited them if they didn't do what was required of them. Such terrors don't exist to the same degree these days for many people. Whatever the method one chooses requires a lot of willpower, just less pain and sometimes more uncertainty about the outcome as a counterbalance. Modern society has made us much weaker mentally than the ancients, or even people living a hundred years ago. We want and expect life to be easy and also death when it comes to be relatively easy and painless.

Your comment about modern society becoming weaker reminds me of a passage from Cicero, from On Bearing Pain:

"We, if we have the toothache, or a pain in the foot, or if the body be anyways affected, cannot bear it. For our sentiments of pain as well as pleasure are so trifling and effeminate, we are so enervated and relaxed by luxuries, that we cannot bear the sting of a bee without crying out."
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Reminds me of a video I once saw, of two Mexican drug members having being captured, were required to sit down and give some kind of speech. They gave the speech calmly, all the while watching as one man sharpens his knife, then another preparing a chainsaw. Then he didn't even flinch when the chainsaw struck his throat, and was then pulled back, he again put forward his blood covered the neck. The second man, sitting next to him, remained still until it was his turn with the knife.

It shows that even men without any learning or education can bear pain with courage, most likely because they'd always lived a difficult life and never had the luxuries we have, both Cicero and Seneca commented on gladiators who bore pain in much the same way.

 

[GoingSoonish]

Moving to a tyrannical country and becoming an investigative journalist.

 

[onewayroad]

Your comment about modern society becoming weaker reminds me of a passage from Cicero, from On Bearing Pain:

"We, if we have the toothache, or a pain in the foot, or if the body be anyways affected, cannot bear it. For our sentiments of pain as well as pleasure are so trifling and effeminate, we are so enervated and relaxed by luxuries, that we cannot bear the sting of a bee without crying out."
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Reminds me of a video I once saw, of two Mexican drug members having being captured, were required to sit down and give some kind of speech. They gave the speech calmly, all the while watching as one man sharpens his knife, then another preparing a chainsaw. Then he didn't even flinch when the chainsaw struck his throat, and was then pulled back, he again put forward his blood covered the neck. The second man, sitting next to him, remained still until it was his turn with the knife.

It shows that even men without any learning or education can bear pain with courage, most likely because they'd always lived a difficult life and never had the luxuries we have, both Cicero and Seneca commented on gladiators who bore pain in much the same way.

It relates back to my point of pain being an emotion. If you are alone and rack your shin on the towbar on the back of a car you will react completely differently to how you would react if you were with a girlfriend or boyfriend who you had recently started dating. The subjective experience of pain has nothing to do with the stimulus itself, and is more to do with your state of mind at the time. Pain is just another emotion and how you experience something painful is entirely determined by your state of mind. That being said, I don't think I have the state of mind to endure dying by the sword. But shit, maybe I do. I'll give it some thought. I do see it as a heroic way to die.

 

[bigj75]

fighting isis

 

[Jon]

It relates back to my point of pain being an emotion. If you are alone and rack your shin on the towbar on the back of a car you will react completely differently to how you would react if you were with a girlfriend or boyfriend who you had recently started dating. The subjective experience of pain has nothing to do with the stimulus itself, and is more to do with your state of mind at the time. Pain is just another emotion and how you experience something painful is entirely determined by your state of mind. That being said, I don't think I have the state of mind to endure dying by the sword. But shit, maybe I do. I'll give it some thought. I do see it as a heroic way to die.

What the two Mexicans, the gladiators, and even that guy who hanged himself on webcam had in common was that they knew they were being watched or filmed. Our innate desire not to show shame or cowardice, I.e., to act honorably, only dies when we ourselves die. They didn't want their reputation tarnished by being remembered as a coward at the moment of death, and that alone was enough to keep them in control of their emotions.

 

[Life sucks]

Creating artificially small place then filling it with gas. Not a new method but making the area smaller by putting objects is what's new

 

[onewayroad]

Creating artificially small place then filling it with gas. Not a new method but making the area smaller by putting objects is what's new

I was thinking about opening a cylinder of nitrogen in my car, but I think the area inside the car would be too large so I'm going with a setup that's been proven to work (full face diving mask with nitrogen). Interesting idea though, I guess you could put a lot of stuff in a car and reduce the volume that way. But I still think you'd need a pretty big tank of gas to be guaranteed death unless you used charcoal or something like that instead.

 

[Steve]

How about climbing Mount Everest? You'll be immortalised as a nift landmark for all eternity.

 

[DreamFreedom]

Jumping from a hot air balloon over the ocean

 

[Arak]

@onewayroad ,

It's not that unusual. I actually read about that option on the internet, and at least for some time some people in Japan chose that method. I vaguely recall something about security measures to stop the 'flow'. Too bad I can't do the traveling and the climbing. You would die by the lava or the fumes. The former can't be a good way to go, but once you have jumped there is no going back. Forget about the 'head first', would it really matter ?

'Ripley's method' as in the way she exited in Alien 3 (jumping in molten metal) does have some appeal, but the modern world is too safe.

You can't stab your heart in a way that's lethal. If you can feel pain, you can't.

Forget about the old Roman method of falling on your sword. Battle hardened soldiers would do it at times, but you need skill, the tools and the proper stamina and mindset to be able to do it.

@onewayroad, how would you get the oxygen out of the car ?

 

[406blue]

How about doing away with a notorious bastard that most of the world despises and getting gunned down in the process... not mentioning any names.

 

[Revok]

Becoming an astronaut and then taking my helmet off while on the moon and looking at earth is a longtime fantasy of mine for some reason.

 

[Made4TV]

How about doing away with a notorious bastard that most of the world despises and getting gunned down in the process... not mentioning any names.

Please nobody take out Trump. We don't need him as a martyr on top of everything else. Ugh.

 

[Suicideisnirvana]

I think though this why men succeed in killing themselves four times more than women, yet the attempts are at least equal or greater in women. Reports suggest that men choose the more violent and painful methods, whereas women (in general) choose the easy way out. But the easy way very often isn't the most effective, and is subject to chance events.

But this theory doesn't explain anything, why do women chose the less effective methods ? to leave a nice-looking corpse ? Maybe because those attempters weren't as serious about dying.