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qwerty1969

qwerty1969

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Does anyone know that if being underweight helps/increases your chances of a successful suicide via the SN method?

Also interested in possible complications regarding whether constipation may play a negative role with regard to SN suicide?

Thoughts and opinions welcome.
 
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starrvingstar

starrvingstar

suicidal anorexic
Apr 9, 2023
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probably, being underweight increases all chances of bad health. less fat to work through or something lol.
 
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Yavannah

Yavannah

Autistic & miserable
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if your underweight due to eating disorder/starving then i think the weakness could lead to a faster death
maybe you would die of a heart attack before the methemoglobinemia would starve your brain and heart of oxygen
 
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outrider567

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Does anyone know that if being underweight helps/increases your chances of a successful suicide via the SN method?

Also interested in possible complications regarding whether constipation may play a negative role with regard to SN suicide?

Thoughts and opinions welcome.
Try 5 to 10 prunes for Constipation
 
plurkid

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I used to really struggle with constipation, doctor gave me a stool softener pill to take once a day and if you make sure to eat something with fiber regularly like oatmeal or fruits/ veggies you'll be fine. If you're underweight you'll probably be more successful with using lower doses. Some things don't work as expected though, like I am very resistant to uppers like meth but am a lightweight with downers like alcohol. I'm 25 and am at 115lbs.
 
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pharmacoepia

pharmacoepia

STEM nerd that is pro-CTB. Asmov looks far-out eh?
Apr 9, 2023
105
Yes, weight is a big factor in the absorbance of drugs. Be careful, the emetic side effect of SN might be more stronger.

SN has a LD50 of 180 mg/kg , that is, to kill 50 percent of a sample size, this dosage per kilogram is needed. For example, if you gave 20 kg animals some SN, you would get 3.6 grams to kill half of those poor animals.

The exact dose differs due to genetic differences (liver metabolism), but the LD50 is used to statistically average it out in academic papers.

The side effects will be more likely and severe. Advise extreme caution if you plan to use more than enough to kill you, as once you go in, it might be more painful than others, and if you decide to back out, there might not be a chance. Unless you are ABSOLUTELY sure you want to CTB, only use 100 MG more than your LD50 kg dose. That way, it will be less painful if you want to CTB, and easier to chicken-out if you change your mind and go to a hospital.
 
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Haruka

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Mar 24, 2023
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I'm pretty sure it can yes, people who are underweight due to an ED will most likely pass away faster using SN due to a weaker body and a slower functioning body in general.
 
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Yes, weight is a big factor in the absorbance of drugs. Be careful, the emetic side effect of SN might be more stronger.

SN has a LD50 of 180 mg/kg , that is, to kill 50 percent of a sample size, this dosage per kilogram is needed. For example, if you gave 20 kg animals some SN, you would get 3.6 grams to kill half of those poor animals.

The exact dose differs due to genetic differences (liver metabolism), but the LD50 is used to statistically average it out in academic papers.

The side effects will be more likely and severe. Advise extreme caution if you plan to use more than enough to kill you, as once you go in, it might be more painful than others, and if you decide to back out, there might not be a chance. Unless you are ABSOLUTELY sure you want to CTB, only use 100 MG more than your LD50 kg dose. That way, it will be less painful if you want to CTB, and easier to chicken-out if you change your mind and go to a hospital.

Yes, weight is a big factor in the absorbance of drugs. Be careful, the emetic side effect of SN might be more stronger.

SN has a LD50 of 180 mg/kg , that is, to kill 50 percent of a sample size, this dosage per kilogram is needed. For example, if you gave 20 kg animals some SN, you would get 3.6 grams to kill half of those poor animals.

The exact dose differs due to genetic differences (liver metabolism), but the LD50 is used to statistically average it out in academic papers.

The side effects will be more likely and severe. Advise extreme caution if you plan to use more than enough to kill you, as once you go in, it might be more painful than others, and if you decide to back out, there might not be a chance. Unless you are ABSOLUTELY sure you want to CTB, only use 100 MG more than your LD50 kg dose. That way, it will be less painful if you want to CTB, and easier to chicken-out if you change your mind and go to a hospital.
My understanding is that over recent years the recommended dosage for successful SN suicide has been revised a number of times which most likely indicates that the entire process is an inexact science of sorts.
What do you think?
 
pharmacoepia

pharmacoepia

STEM nerd that is pro-CTB. Asmov looks far-out eh?
Apr 9, 2023
105
My understanding is that over recent years the recommended dosage for successful SN suicide has been revised a number of times which most likely indicates that the entire process is an inexact science of sorts.
What do you think?

Indeed, it is inexact. I'm looking at the toxological data of SN right now just to double check, and it seems to differ depending on the sample size. As far as I can find, 321 mg/kg was recorded for a male sample size for coma and cyanosis to be a serious issue, while others state a lower number for children. There are too much studies to cite, but a simple search on PubChem or Google Scholar and other toxicological resources will give you a general range of 180 mg to 312 mg LD50 per study. Interestingly, animals have higher resistance to SN according to LD50's on PubChem, with cats being 1 gram/kg LD50

So yes, this is definitely a really inexact science. People are different in their chemical composition. Each person will have different metabolism.

Your goal is to make sure people don't find you during your visit with SN. The longer nobody can see you, the less of a chance that they could pump your stomach and give you treatment.
 
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qwerty1969

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Indeed, it is inexact. I'm looking at the toxological data of SN right now just to double check, and it seems to differ depending on the sample size. As far as I can find, 321 mg/kg was recorded for a male sample size for coma and cyanosis to be a serious issue, while others state a lower number for children. There are too much studies to cite, but a simple search on PubChem or Google Scholar and other toxicological resources will give you a general range of 180 mg to 312 mg LD50 per study. Interestingly, animals have higher resistance to SN according to LD50's on PubChem, with cats being 1 gram/kg LD50

So yes, this is definitely a really inexact science. People are different in their chemical composition. Each person will have different metabolism.

Your goal is to make sure people don't find you during your visit with SN. The longer nobody can see you, the less of a chance that they could pump your stomach and give you treatment.
Thanks for your thoughts. It sounds like you're a pharmacist of sorts?! Facts are everything and facts don't care about people's feelings as they say.
 
Kta1994

Kta1994

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Apr 25, 2019
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I used to really struggle with constipation, doctor gave me a stool softener pill to take once a day and if you make sure to eat something with fiber regularly like oatmeal or fruits/ veggies you'll be fine. If you're underweight you'll probably be more successful with using lower doses. Some things don't work as expected though, like I am very resistant to uppers like meth but am a lightweight with downers like alcohol. I'm 25 and am at 115lbs.
Its really not that simple for everbody, i have to take mag citrite/oxide if i wanna go at all and i eat lots of fiber
 
plurkid

plurkid

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Mar 16, 2023
80
Its really not that simple for everbody, i have to take mag citrite/oxide if i wanna go at all and i eat lots of fiber
Yeah you're probably right, mine was really bad so I guess I figured if I could make it out then anyone could, but in hindsight that's definitely not true. One method won't work for everyone.
 
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WorthlessCoward

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Mar 21, 2023
301
I knew this autoimmune, chronic, incurable disease was for something more than just keep me skinny and stylish! Ka-ching baby! I got a faster ticket
 
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Grav

Elementalist
Jul 26, 2020
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Try 5 to 10 prunes for Constipation

Funny story about that. The gist is work had these snack samplers of prunes so I ate like 15 of them, 4-5 in each. Had a 35 min ride home after work, photo-finish for the win!
 

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