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blueclover_.

blueclover_.

Better Never to Have Been: 2006, David Benatar
Oct 11, 2021
668
I am very tired of life. Everyday i wake up, look at my pile of unwritten assignments, and get throughout the day with constant stress on my mind. Every few days my dad loses his shit due to his severe headache and would abuse me, my sister, or my mom. Once i graduate, I am expected to find a job to support my sister's education. I can't cry anymore since 8th grade and when i do, it's forced, just so that i can get that little endorphins and feel better. Tomorrow. I should do it. I was raised religious, can you guys help me to stop my SI from scaring me with hell? Thank you for reading.
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
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Of course there is no evidence of there being a hell after this, it is a fictional concept. You could say we already live in hell. I believe in death there will be true peace and freedom from all suffering. Life is very horrible, I'm sorry you are in this situation. I hope you find the peace you are looking for.
 
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Of course there is no evidence of there being a hell after this, it is a fictional concept. You could say we already live in hell. I believe in death there will be true peace and freedom from all suffering. Life is very horrible, I'm sorry you are in this situation. I hope you find the peace you are looking for.
Some ndes (near death experiences depict a hell and some don't- most of them seem prettyu convincing, even when they contradict each other, so I don't know what to think. Personally I don't think that the risk of hell existing is 0%, I do think there is some chance that it exists. But I peronally haven't seen any ndes where a person went to hell based on ctb, though some religions may say this would happen.
 
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xianv111

xianv111

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It's difficult for me to relate to your situation as personally I have never believed in the afterlife, so I'm almost certain of the nothingness and non-existence succeeding one's death. However in most religions suicide victims don't face damnation. It depends on the interpretation, nevertheless if someone suffers so much the God should forgive them for taking their own life. I'd say that any God that persecutes a suicide is a cruel God.
 
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blueclover_.

blueclover_.

Better Never to Have Been: 2006, David Benatar
Oct 11, 2021
668
Strange that hope only comes to me when I'm about to end it. Fuck SI.

It's difficult for me to relate to your situation as personally I have never believed in the afterlife, so I'm almost certain of the nothingness and non-existence succeeding one's death. However in most religions suicide victims don't face damnation. It depends on the interpretation, nevertheless if someone suffers so much the God should forgive them for taking their own life. I'd say that any God that persecutes a suicide is a cruel God.
Suicide is a big sin in Islam, the religion of pieces ;)
 
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Strange that hope only comes to me when I'm about to end it. Fuck SI.


Suicide is a big sin in Islam, the religion of pieces ;)
I'm sorry to hear that. Growing up in a catholic religion - my perception is somehow narrowed by Christianity. I still think it's a good idea to read about stances of different Islamic sects. Nevertheless, I wish you the alleviation of your suffering by any means. You said you still have hope. I don't know your situation in detail, but if there are any possibilities for you - try them. Doing that is in my opinion better than trying to fight SI while there are still some prospects available.
 
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blueclover_.

blueclover_.

Better Never to Have Been: 2006, David Benatar
Oct 11, 2021
668
I'm sorry to hear that. Growing up in a catholic religion - my perception is somehow narrowed by Christianity. I still think it's a good idea to read about stances of different Islamic sects. Nevertheless, I wish you the alleviation of your suffering by any means. You said you still have hope. I don't know your situation in detail, but if there are any possibilities for you - try them. Doing that is in my opinion better than trying to fight SI while there are still some prospects available.
Both Shia and Sunni Islam condemn suicide. Not that it helps that i am an ex-believer now, boom, eternal hell. I just want to die, why is it so hard? But my salafi dad is technically allowed to kill me because i am an apostate. Religion of pieces, literally.

If i fail my exam this semester I'm going to hate myself for being such a pussy who could've spared themself from suffering but failed to do so.
 
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Eric Draven

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Some ndes (near death experiences depict a hell and some don't- most of them seem prettyu convincing, even when they contradict each other, so I don't know what to think. Personally I don't think that the risk of hell existing is 0%, I do think there is some chance that it exists. But I peronally haven't seen any ndes where a person went to hell based on ctb, though some religions may say this would happen.
The problem with NDEs is the first word - Near. Near death not actual death. When we are dying the brain releases all sorts of chemicals which often cause hallucinations both visual and auditory.
 
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xianv111

xianv111

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Oct 15, 2021
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If i fail my exam this semester I'm going to hate myself for being such a pussy who could've spared themself from suffering but failed to do so.
If you're truly an ex-believer you should get rid of your assumptions about the afterlife. It might take a long time as you most likely were exposed to these ideas since you were a child. Also I see you beat yourself up for setbacks. My advice would be - don't think you don't deserve to live if you cannot bear certain responsibilities. I guess you're extremely exhausted with life. It's very hard to function in this state, so keep in mind that you're valuable even if you have a hard time carrying on ❤️ In case venting or talking to somebody helps you - you can always chat with me 🤗
 
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Maaizr

Maaizr

LESS TALKING MORE KILLING
Aug 2, 2021
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this sounds really fucked up, im very sorry that things are this way for you i cant even find really the words to describe it right now sheesh this world is such a hellscape.. you can talk or vent to me by the way, always

Strange that hope only comes to me when I'm about to end it. Fuck SI.

i feel this one too, SI is such a sickness
 
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