Vaughn

Vaughn

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I have researched much the AMITRiPTyLINE COCKTAIL. version 2. if you know anything else or have experience with this cocktail - let the thread know. As some of you know of me 'Research is the key' - so add to this experience - thanks.

1) Amitriptyline 9 grams is the lethal component of the cocktail.

Tricyclic antidepressants (TCAs) exert their lethality mainly since they are sodium channel blockers.[1]
If the arrhythmia continues, blood circulation will cease, and death (as in, ventricular fibrillation) will occur in a matter of minutes.

2) Cimetidine 2.5 grams achieves two goals in the cocktail:
it hastens death;



    • it eliminates any possibility of survival and renders the cocktail much more lethal.
Cimetidine is normally used to reduce gastric acidity, as a treatment for heartburn or peptic ulcers.it is not possible to replace cimetidine with ranitidine, or any other antacid medication that a pharmacy might offer to you as a replacement.

3) Midazolam (Dormicum 300 mg) is quick acting and of short duration, while while
4) Diazepam (Valium) 300 mg) )is slower acting but of long duration; both are powerful sedatives from the benzodiazepine class of drugs. They cause deep sleep before amitriptyline starts to act in overdose. Amitriptyline poisoning would be lethal by itself, but the death it causes would not be peaceful.

How long does the cocktail take?[edit]
Since TCAs tend to slow the digestive process and absorption from the intestines, death would occur within 12-24 hours.

Oh, one must start off with the right anti-emetics...
Antiemetic regimen
It is very important to use drugs that prevent vomiting (i.e. antiemetic drugs) before one takes the cocktail. Some of the which work with the cocktail include:

  1. Prochlorperazine - this is the most potent dopamine blocker.
  2. Metoclopramide

 
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JohnDoe1

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- Dosulepin is more toxic than amitriptyline..

Source: Rossi, S, ed. (2013). Australian Medicines Handbook (2013 ed.). Adelaide: The Australian Medicines Handbook Unit Trust.

- Using a Sodium-channel blocker like Dilantin, increases the toxic effects of Tri-cyclics on the heart...

- Using physostigmine with tri-cyclic poisoning has been associated with complete heart block and asystolic cardiac arrest

Source: Kerr G, McGuffie A, Wilkie S (2001). "Tricyclic antidepressant overdose: a review". Emerg Med J. 18 (4): 236–41.
 
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Donewith_

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Cimetidine can be replaced with flecainide, encainide or Quinidine (mentioned in suicide wiki).
In which source has Prochlorperazine been mentioned?
I think there is a thread titled 'Resource Amitriptyline cocktail'
 
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NoOneKnows

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Sep 12, 2018
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I have researched much the AMITRiPTyLINE COCKTAIL. version 2. if you know anything else or have experience with this cocktail - let the thread know. As some of you know of me 'Research is the key' - so add to this experience - thanks.

1) Amitriptyline 9 grams is the lethal component of the cocktail.

Tricyclic antidepressants (TCAs) exert their lethality mainly since they are sodium channel blockers.[1]
If the arrhythmia continues, blood circulation will cease, and death (as in, ventricular fibrillation) will occur in a matter of minutes.

2) Cimetidine 2.5 grams achieves two goals in the cocktail:
it hastens death;



    • it eliminates any possibility of survival and renders the cocktail much more lethal.
Cimetidine is normally used to reduce gastric acidity, as a treatment for heartburn or peptic ulcers.it is not possible to replace cimetidine with ranitidine, or any other antacid medication that a pharmacy might offer to you as a replacement.

3) Midazolam (Dormicum 300 mg) is quick acting and of short duration, while while
4) Diazepam (Valium) 300 mg) )is slower acting but of long duration; both are powerful sedatives from the benzodiazepine class of drugs. They cause deep sleep before amitriptyline starts to act in overdose. Amitriptyline poisoning would be lethal by itself, but the death it causes would not be peaceful.

How long does the cocktail take?[edit]
Since TCAs tend to slow the digestive process and absorption from the intestines, death would occur within 12-24 hours.

Oh, one must start off with the right anti-emetics...
Antiemetic regimen

It is very important to use drugs that prevent vomiting (i.e. antiemetic drugs) before one takes the cocktail. Some of the which work with the cocktail include:




    • Prochlorperazine - this is the most potent dopamine blocker.
    • Metoclopramide


Is Cimetidine available generally ? I checked availability here (Europe) and its not on market, with nor without prescription. Likewise the anti-arrythmic drugs @donewith mentioned (flecainide, encainide or Quinidine) are here available only with prescription from cardiologist
 
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Donewith_

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Sep 28, 2018
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I will be using
500mg diazepam(valium) and
30 mg Alprazolam in my attempt.
don't have midazolam. How reliable is it? I have just read at a place that it's better to plan it the way that you fall asleep in 10 minutes after ingesting the whole cocktail.
I know using midazolam, I would fall asleep that fast. But, I'm not using it.
How does does it take for me to fall asleep with the benzos I mentioned?
 
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Vaughn

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Feb 21, 2019
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I will be using
500mg diazepam(valium) and
30 mg Alprazolam in my attempt.
don't have midazolam. How reliable is it? I have just read at a place that it's better to plan it the way that you fall asleep in 10 minutes after ingesting the whole cocktail.
I know using midazolam, I would fall asleep that fast. But, I'm not using it.
How does does it take for me to fall asleep with the benzos I mentioned?
are you using also Amitriptyline ?
 
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Clem

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Donewith - Unless you are IV-ing the benzos's they are going to take a little time to kick in...10-15 minutes. There is no way to avoid this really. Just pick your 3-4 favourite songs to play as you drift off. You are probably taking slightly more Diaz and alpraz than you need but if you can swallow them without much fuss than no biggie.

Cimetidine was a pain for me to get. You need a prescription here and I had to make up some bullshit excuse to my doc about heartburn and none of the otc drugs working properly. He's a nice guy and I really hated lying to him just to get this Ami potentiator but what can you do. When I finally got the prescription I then had to drive to about 10 different pharmacies to find one that had it in stock. I had an easier time getting Flunitrazepam FFS.
 
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Started to buy my 9 gms today. Many places asked for a prescription, and a few others dont... 20190225 214737
 
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Donewith_

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Sep 28, 2018
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Donewith - Unless you are IV-ing the benzos's they are going to take a little time to kick in...10-15 minutes. There is no way to avoid this really. Just pick your 3-4 favourite songs to play as you drift off. You are probably taking slightly more Diaz and alpraz than you need but if you can swallow them without much fuss than no biggie.

Cimetidine was a pain for me to get. You need a prescription here and I had to make up some bullshit excuse to my doc about heartburn and none of the otc drugs working properly. He's a nice guy and I really hated lying to him just to get this Ami potentiator but what can you do. When I finally got the prescription I then had to drive to about 10 different pharmacies to find one that had it in stock. I had an easier time getting Flunitrazepam FFS.
Its difficult to get cimetidine here too. Have to get it from other country. Haven't ordered yet.
Its mentioned in wiki that valium 500 mg could also do the work. Just worried if i would fall asleep fast without good short acting benzos.
good that you got Flunitrazepam.
 
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You had to go to Mexico just to get amitripyline?
no I love mexico and been coming here everyyear for 40 years - so to find Nembutal - it was a great reason to come back....
and I did not find N... so am going with Amitrip...
 
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no I love mexico and been coming here everyyear for 40 years - so to find Nembutal - it was a great reason to come back....
and I did not find N... so am going with Amitrip...

Oh ok. I hope it goes peacefully.
 
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Dear lord I'd like some of those
311 you can get these if you ask your doctor for them - and tell him you have used them before for sleeping pills.... ask for the 50mg or 100mg...and slowly accumulate them.... there are countries in Europe if you are in Europe that sells them over the counter, or central America. or even south America as I do not know where you are from.. good luck
 

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