This life makes ZERO sense (endless struggle)

[sanction]

Before we are even born, while we're still inside our mother's stomach, we're already 100% destined to die at some point, whether its through disease, old age, accident, being murdered, or suicide. It is 100000% guaranteed

While our parents clearly knowing this, they still decided to bring us into this world

Then literally as soon as we are here, we are right away forced to go to school for 20 years, just so we can be prepared to work at some Job for another 40 to 50 years

Then inside this world, EVERY FUCKING THING cost money!!!!!!

Need to pay for food, pay for toilet paper, pay for electricity, pay for medicine, pay for toothpaste, pay for soap, pay for clothes, pay for rent, pay for transportation, pay for entertainment, pay taxes, and the list goes on....... and on.....

All this fucking trouble and headache, just to fucking die in the end

We seriously just come to this world to be abused, punished, and tortured, just to end up getting thrown into the ground to get buried, or into the fire to get cremated..... and even this final step ALSO COST MONEY!!!!!!!!

Like.... I could understand animals don't have the intelligence to understand this, thats why they continue to breed. However, humans CLEARLY are aware of this, why still bring another human into this world just to suffer all this bullshit?????????

I'm seriously going crazy being forced to go through this temporary and pointless journey, that is FULL OF ENDLESS STRESS

Where is the "LOVE" people are talking about????? All I can REALLY feel is the TORTURE that I'm being forced into. All these are facts, and it speaks for itself

 

[CarrotEater]

I'll focus on one part of your post.

Money is great system though. Everybody needs to be useful to others in one way or another, then you spend it for others to be useful to you. If you bake bread, good luck trading that for a car. With a universal trading resource, it's possible. Of course plenty of people explot this in many ways, and sometimes you can obtain it by causing harm to others, and stuff that doesn't require much of your time is better overall (mining coal requires your time for a few customers, compared to being a programmer and creating something that milions of people use). Sucks when you don't have enough of it though.

There is always an option to have your own bussiness, which requires more effort, but you can be awarded accordingly. Or finding a fulfiling job - I had one at some point.

It's not ideal, but I like it. Much better than fighting between each other (wars). I think the world was heading in a better direction in the last 50 years or so, even though it was far from perfect.

Overall I'd rather not live at all because the negatives outweigh the positives for me.

 

[sanction]

I'll focus on one part of your post.

Money is great system though. Everybody needs to be useful to others in one way or another, then you spend it for others to be useful to you. If you bake bread, good luck trading that for a car. With a universal trading resource, it's possible. Of course plenty of people explot this in many ways, and sometimes you can obtain it by causing harm to others, and stuff that doesn't require much of your time is better overall (mining coal requires your time for a few customers, compared to being a programmer and creating something that milions of people use). Sucks when you don't have enough of it though.

There is always an option to have your own bussiness, which requires more effort, but you can be awarded accordingly. Or finding a fulfiling job - I had one at some point.

It's not ideal, but I like it. Much better than fighting between each other (wars). I think the world was heading in a better direction in the last 50 years or so, even though it was far from perfect.

Overall I'd rather not live at all because the negatives outweigh the positives for me.

I know what you mean

Its just not worth it, is my main point

Because we just get forced into this life, without choice, then stuck having to pay for everything that we never asked for, but left with no options but to obey

Its such a tiring, draining, and torture experience, that is so unnecessary and pointless in the end

I basically got tricked into this world, to fulfill my parent's fantasy, and also to obey the government, and if I don't want to do this, it then also becomes my fault and problem

Just pure bullshit

 

[Rymrgand]

Humans are aware of this tho? Most parents think that their children will have a good life, or at least they will give them "the best possible life".

And even if we don't think about children and parents, most happyish people are happy because they do everything they can to ignore wars, genocides, torture, poverty, etc. Maybe they try to think that a war is a necessary evil, or that a genocide is sad but "that's how the world works", or that poor people deserve to be poor because they are bad people or they are dumb/lazy.

Most people I know that are good people with empathy and caring towards other people, including strangers, are at least a bit depressed and they get often angry (in a good way) or sad.

 

[sanction]

Humans are aware of this tho? Most parents think that their children will have a good life, or at least they will give them "the best possible life".

And even if we don't think about children and parents, most happyish people are happy because they do everything they can to ignore wars, genocides, torture, poverty, etc. Maybe they try to think that a war is a necessary evil, or that a genocide is sad but "that's how the world works", or that poor people deserve to be poor because they are bad people or they are dumb/lazy.

Most people I know that are good people with empathy and caring towards other people, including strangers, are at least a bit depressed and they get often angry (in a good way) or sad.

To be honest, I think most parents are too naive, or in other words, have no idea what they're really doing

You mentioned most parents think their children have good life, or giving them "best possible life"

But as mentioned in original post, how is throwing your child into school for 20 years, just to prepare them for 40-50 years to be stuck at a job, so they can earn money, otherwise will starve to death or end up homeless

Amongst many other things. This is a cruel world. We need to constantly prevent dangers, avoid getting harmed, robbed, scammed....

At some point need to also witness our parents die and suffer from that sadness and be heart broken

We will also eventually get old ourselves, sick with disease, just to simply die in the end. Even when we die, we literally still need to pay for our own coffin or burial / cremated services

And the list goes on.... and on......

Its very difficult for me to associate "love" with this

If this is the type of "love" this society supports, then I want no part in such a society

 

[Rymrgand]

To be honest, I think most parents are too naive, or in other words, have no idea what they're really doing

You mentioned most parents think their children have good life, or giving them "best possible life"

But as mentioned in original post, how is throwing your child into school for 20 years, just to prepare them for 40-50 years to be stuck at a job, so they can earn money, otherwise will starve to death or end up homeless

Amongst many other things. This is a cruel world. We need to constantly prevent dangers, avoid getting harmed, robbed, scammed....

At some point need to also witness our parents die and suffer from that sadness and be heart broken

We will also eventually get old ourselves, sick with disease, just to simply die in the end. Even when we die, we literally still need to pay for our own coffin or burial / cremated services

And the list goes on.... and on......

Its very difficult for me to associate "love" with this

If this is the type of "love" this society supports, then I want no part in such a society

Yeah, kinda agree. That's what I meant, parents and a lot of people in general are naive. Even if they love their children, it's misguided love.

Needing to get a job to get enough money to live is not necessarily bad by itself, tho. The problem is that in our ultra capitalist society, you need to get a (often shitty) job and you won't be able to get enough money to have a decent live. I like my job, I wouldn't mind to work there all my life. But I still don't have enough money to live a good life.

 

[sanction]

Yeah, kinda agree. That's what I meant, parents and a lot of people in general are naive. Even if they love their children, it's misguided love.

Needing to get a job to get enough money to live is not necessarily bad by itself, tho. The problem is that in our ultra capitalist society, you need to get a (often shitty) job and you won't be able to get enough money to have a decent live. I like my job, I wouldn't mind to work there all my life. But I still don't have enough money to live a good life.

Being brought into this world just to do 20 years school and 50 years job..... just to die in the end after all this effort

Just sounds like a MUCH MUCH MUCH better idea to avoid this in the first place instead

 

[FuneralCry]

I understand as more than anything I wish I never existed at all, I find it the most terrible tragedy how this existence of suffering all for the sake of it was even imposed, existence to me really does feel like a mistake, it's all just so dreadful to me and unnecessary, I just see existing as waiting to not exist anyway where there is no limit as to how much agony one can feel. I'd just always prefer to not exist than suffer in this existence, non-existence really is all I see as desirable and I see so much cruelty in how I cannot just have the option of guaranteed painless death with suffering seen as to force and prolong no matter what even know I just never would had wished for any of this, never existing would had saved me from so much suffering in this torturous, futile existence.

 

[sanction]

I understand as more than anything I wish I never existed at all, I find it the most terrible tragedy how this existence of suffering all for the sake of it was even imposed, existence to me really does feel like a mistake, it's all just so dreadful to me and unnecessary, I just see existing as waiting to not exist anyway where there is no limit as to how much agony one can feel. I'd just always prefer to not exist than suffer in this existence, non-existence really is all I see as desirable and I see so much cruelty in how I cannot just have the option of guaranteed painless death with suffering seen as to force and prolong no matter what even know I just never would had wished for any of this, never existing would had saved me from so much suffering in this torturous, futile existence.

When do you think you will CTB? Have you decided on this? And what method will you be using?

 

[divinemistress36]

A lot of babies are accidents and the other half that are planned I dont think parents think to much how their kids could suffer in life even as my parents have seen how much Ive suffered in life they are still pretty oblivious . Animal brain takes over critical thinking and yes its fuckin ridiculous we have to pay for everything

 

[sanction]

A lot of babies are accidents and the other half that are planned I dont think parents think to much how their kids could suffer in life even as my parents have seen how much Ive suffered in life they are still pretty oblivious . Animal brain takes over critical thinking and yes its fuckin ridiculous we have to pay for everything

Agreed. Its crazy how it is seen as "love"

Their definition of "love", is to force someone into 70 years of slavery / labor (20 years school + 50 years job)

And thats before even going through the LONG LIST of all the other bullshit that is associated with daily life.

Just THAT one example alone, is already 70 years of misery

How can people not understand this simple logic???? Thats instead something you would do to your worst enemy lol

 

[divinemistress36]

Agreed. Its crazy how it is seen as "love"

Their definition of "love", is to force someone into 70 years of slavery / labor (20 years school + 50 years job)

And thats before even going through the LONG LIST of all the other bullshit that is associated with daily life.

Just THAT one example alone, is already 70 years of misery

How can people not understand this simple logic???? Thats instead something you would do to your worst enemy lol

Not many people have much emotional intelligence. I told my parents basically what you said and they just said "That life..."

 

[sanction]

Not many people have much emotional intelligence. I told my parents basically what you said and they just "That life..."

Same. I had similar response when I made this complaint to my parents. They instead made it seem like there was something wrong with me instead, for not fitting into society like everyone else

 

[divinemistress36]

"It no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society"

 

[Raven2]

If I could refuse to participate in society then I would. But unfortunately I have to work to pay for everything and to pay my taxes to this shite government.
It's all about money and I dont like it.
It's fine if your rich you can do what you like and just become more wealthy. For the working class its sometimes a struggle just to get by. I wish there wasnt a divide between rich and poor and there was more money equality.

 

[ididnotconsent]

People are not as aware as you think. Most people don't make well thought out calculated decisions based on logic. We aren't robots.

Our parents had kids because of social pressure, because it was just what you did, and because horny is powerful. I have forgiven mine. They didn't have access to the type of information we have now at our fingertips.

As we speak babies are being born in Gaza. That should tell you something.

I know it sucks ball brother. Just know you're not alone. I hope that gives you some comfort.

"It no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society"

This quote is fucking based and has so much truth to it.

 

[sanction]

People are not as aware as you think. Most people don't make well thought out calculated decisions based on logic. We aren't robots.

Our parents had kids because of social pressure, because it was just what you did, and because horny is powerful. I have forgiven mine. They didn't have access to the type of information we have now at our fingertips.

As we speak babies are being born in Gaza. That should tell you something.

I know it sucks ball brother. Just know you're not alone. I hope that gives you some comfort.

This quote is so fucking based and has so much truth to it.

Thanks brother. I feel you

The babies being born in Gaza as we speak, is a good example