" This Generation is full of weak, pathetic, cry babies..."

[Sleeper System]

I honestly can't wrap my brain around how the generation prior to mine managed to not all kill themselves off with all the problems they were facing. I was born in the early 90s. What prospective are we missing? What mindset has passed us by?

I feel like they're right when they say this new era of humans has no balls. Me included. We don't want to live but we also don't want to die unless it's painless.
Maybe it was that back then things were so hard that you didn't have time to sit and think about life. Maybe the wars were some sort of key distraction. Idk.

I really want to respect old people. Like... you fucking made it. Regardless of what happened in your life you made it to the final round. Shit man. I barely wanna live passed tomorrow.

I saw this YouTube video of this guy who goes around asking random people their net worth. He asked this one old man who was running in the street. The guy said I'm the wrong person to ask about net worth. I live off a pension and social security. 30k a year. I have trouble just eating every day. I'm the wrong person to ask. I am enjoying this run though. Got my music. I'm just enjoying this run.

That shit felt like I was looking at my future. Only difference is this guy already made it to the final lap and he just cares about enjoying his run for that day. I couldn't picture myself doing that.

Just rambling. Venting. Whatever. Life is rough.

 

[LongtimeLoser]

I grew up in extreme poverty. Discrimination, racism, drugs, and sexual abuse were all around me. In the 7th grade everything changed for me. I had hit absolute rock bottom. Once I got myself out of the system I focused on my grades and nothing else. I landed a scholarship that paid for my university tuition. All I had to do was work 30 hours a week at minimum wage to pay for rent and one meal a day, as well as, maintain good grades. I did that for 5 years and walked away with an MBA and 30k in the bank from student loans that I took out and didn't spend. By the time I was 35 I was independently wealthy. By 40 my health had turned to shit from a congenital (born with) disease. Although it really sucks arse, In the 20 years of working and investing I was able to not only pull myself out of poverty, but my entire family as well.

I'm a very rare breed of person. I miss working so much. I miss the camaraderie, the challenges, the people, even the 60-80 hour work weeks.

Each to their own.

 

[LifeHasNoOptIn]

Having hit the 50+ club, I have noticed over the years that this refrain has been pretty common from one generation to the next. My grandparents about my parents, parents to my gen, and now my gen to the next ones. It seems to be a consistency just like "music was better in my day, now it's just all noise" or "they just don't make (blank) like they used to". It's been kinda funny hearing this from members of my gen as I can remember the same peeps making the accusation being the target of same so many years ago. I try to remind myself of this every time someone begins ranting about "kids these days"

 

[LongtimeLoser]

My dad always told me that "these are the good ole days", and I agree. These are the good ole days.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

The guy said I'm the wrong person to ask about net worth. I live off a pension and social security. 30k a year.

Well, my mom, who passed away fairly recently, lived on just under $8000 a year. And that was the MOST she ever lived on due to raises in SS over the years. And my mom lived through the incessant bombings of WWII in Germany. She lived through the Great Depression, too. Did that toughen her up? Maybe. Things were harder back then in some ways. Though, things can still be hard for some today. It's all relative, I guess.

And the other thing, I don't know if wanting a painless death is only a part of your generation. I'm in my 50s, and I can surely say that I want a painless death, too. I can't think of anyone who wants a painful death.

 

[Sleeper System]

I grew up in extreme poverty. Discrimination, racism, drugs, and sexual abuse was all around me. In the 7th grade everything changed for me. I had hit absolute rock bottom. Once I got myself out of the system I focused on my grades and nothing else. I landed a scholarship that paid for my university tuition. All I had to do was work 30 hours a week at minimum wage to pay for rent and one meal a day, as well as, maintain good grades. I did that for 5 years and walked away with an MBA and 30k in the bank from student loans that I took out and didn't spend. By the time I was 35 I was independently wealthy. By 40 my health had turned to shit from a congenital (born with) disease. Although it really sucks arse, In the 20 years of working and investing I was able to not only pull myself out of poverty, but my entire family as well.

I'm a very rare breed of person. I miss working so much. I miss the camaraderie, the challenges, the people, even the 60-80 hour work weeks.

Each to their own.

Must be nice. >_>

 

[LongtimeLoser]

Must be nice. >_>

To work your ass off your entire life and then have your health stripped away from you? Or to make so many sacrifices in your life for your family and then have the rest of your life plagued with physical disabilities? It's interesting how others see my story as "nice" when I'm the one that has had to live through the horrors of extreme poverty, childhood rape, and lots and lots of hard work.

Sorry, I digress.

 

[Sleeper System]

... you made something of yourself. Despite your trauma. You yourself said that you are a "rare" person. You did something... regardless of your current issues. "Nice" is just my prospective. There is always someone who has it worse. Many of us never rise from poverty. Many of us are stuck being "losers" from the day we are born until the day we die. You are boasting and being self depreciating at the same time. That's what it looks like to me.

That being said... I don't try to analyze who is "worthy" of being depressed or thinking about ctb. We all have our own demons. It doesn't discriminate.
I think my life sucks and is going nowhere... but I'm also aware that their are people in even worse situations dealing with unthinkable trauma. That puts things into prospective for me. My life does stink but it could be worse. Whoever thought of the phrase just take things one day at a time... that is literally all that keeps me hanging on some days.

 

[LongtimeLoser]

I apologize. I shouldn't get so personal in my comments. It's too hard to put your whole life into a couple paragraphs on a suicide forum, lol

 

[Shu]

... you made something of yourself. Despite your trauma. You yourself said that you are a "rare" person. You did something... regardless of your current issues. "Nice" is just my prospective. There is always someone who has it worse. Many of us never rise from poverty. Many of us are stuck being "losers" from the day we are born until the day we die. You are boasting and being self depreciating at the same time. That's what it looks like to me.

That being said... I don't try to analyze who is "worthy" of being depressed or thinking about ctb. We all have our own demons. It doesn't discriminate.
I think my life sucks and is going nowhere... but I'm also aware that their are people in even worse situations dealing with unthinkable trauma. That puts things into prospective for me. My life does stink but it could be worse. Whoever thought of the phrase just take things one day at a time... that is literally all that keeps me hanging on some

didn't seem to me like they were boasting at all.. haha. They were just sharing their experience. They weren't weren't like "Ha look what I have and you don't!"

days.

 

[Quiet Desperation]

Every generation has some generalizations about other generations, be they good or bad, but I'm not so sure they are valid.

As to the current younger generations, they are the first to grow up with the Internet and smartphones. I think for all their advantages they have both had a greater cost than we realize. Brain studies on the subject, and recent research on loneliness, are pretty bleak. Definitely altered the course of my life for the worse.

 

[Extreme_weather]

Was not expecting such a thread in a forum like this.

Nowadays we seem to drown in a teaspoon of what for prior generations used to be an ocean they had no choice but to swim across, yet they managed to keep their heads high, smile and even be grateful.

 

[Superdeterminist]

It's BS, IMO. You can't characterise an entire generation of people as if they all have the same attitudes and did the same things. Also, I don't admire old people for being old...they just survived for a longer time...ok? That doesn't impress me really. I don't see them as having "made it" in any significant way. To me, making it means living an exciting and enjoyable life, with little if any suffering.

 

[LongtimeLoser]

I'm in my early 40s, so I'm at the very tail end of Gen X. My grandpa was in WWII. At the age of 17, he had been through, and seen, more than 99.9% of the 17-40 year olds today. My grandma worked in an ammunition factory during the war. To say I'm impressed by what my grandparents went through, endured, and achieved is the understatement of the century.

For those interested, my grandpa was in the Army, fought all through Europe, was almost blown to bits from a grenade, captured by the Italians, tortured by the Germans, surgically and psychologically experimented on, rescued, and then continued to fight until the end of the war. My grandma lead a large team of women in an ammunition plant that manufactured hundreds of millions of bullets for the Allied Forces. Even she lost several of her workers in two warehouse explosions due to horrendous working conditions.

My grandparents' generation, the baby boomers, were/are leaps and bounds tougher than us.

Hard times create strong men, (WWII/Baby Boomers)
strong men create good times, (Gen X)
good times create weak men, (Millennials/GenZ)
and weak men create hard times. (Where we are headed)

 

[Oblivion Access]

I always find the complaints about the new generation funny because this goes back to antiquity, with Socrates complaining how people depending on having things written down will worsen their memory. This generation is so yada yada... My brother in Christ, who do you think raised them to be like that?

 

[Al Cappella]

Ya, I tend to think too this is just one generation saying "kids these days" which has been done forever. In general, however, it would be also true that people will find something to bitch about, regardless how peaceful or prosperous a period is. It's just what people do. Some people, not all, of course…

 

[DynamicDepression]

The romanticization of the "good old days" is really toxic. I was hoping people on here would realize that facing hardship isn't a boon in life or a necessity to grow as a person, but I digress.

 

[Final-push123]

I think the difference between generations of old vs this generation is that there was hope for the future.

The common cope most people through out history is this
"even if my life suck, at least there a better tomorrow or if not for me then at least my kids/community/humanity can have a better tomorrow"

This was usually enough to keep people moving forward, but now? Well there is a general feeling of hopelessness. Be it economic bleakness, climate bleakness, etc.

It pretty hard to keep on living when you know there is no future

 

[Superdeterminist]

I always find the complaints about the new generation funny because this goes back to antiquity, with Socrates complaining how people depending on having things written down will worsen their memory. This generation is so yada yada... My brother in Christ, who do you think raised them to be like that?

I just spotted the dominion link below your post. Mad respect...incredibly important documentary.

 

[Sleeper System]

It's BS, IMO. You can't characterise an entire generation of people as if they all have the same attitudes and did the same things. Also, I don't admire old people for being old...they just survived for a longer time...ok? That doesn't impress me really. I don't see them as having "made it" in any significant way. To me, making it means living an exciting and enjoyable life, with little if any suffering.

Surviving all the bullshit this world has to offer isn't impressive to you? Someone in a suicide forum who is basically trying to quit life because things are just too hard? You see the contradiction right?

I'm not interested in that. Surviving until the end is making it. Living a full life is also making it. People who want to cry and just quit (like most of us) really can't say anything in that regard. xD

 

[Superdeterminist]

Surviving all the bullshit this world has to offer isn't impressive to you? Someone in a suicide forum who is basically trying to quit life because things are just too hard? You see the contradiction right?

I'm not interested in that. Surviving until the end is making it. Living a full life is also making it. People who want to cry and just quit (like most of us) really can't say anything in that regard. xD

No, just surviving isn't impressive to me. I don't balk at it, but I don't admire it either. IMO, there is living and there is surviving. Living is admirable, surviving is unremarkable to me.

The reasons I want to quit are not because "things are too hard". This is your idea, not mine.

Of course there is such a thing as a life too short, but IMO, quality > quantity. I would personally rather live well and die at 20, than live poorly and die at 80. What constitutes a "full" life is subject to debate. I don't believe that a life is full just because it meets a certain duration of 80 years or something.

You want to suggest that if someone CTBs, they must be a 'crybaby ragequitter' or something. I can't stop you from having that attitude, but I definitely don't share or agree with it.

 

[Extreme_weather]

I always find the complaints about the new generation funny because this goes back to antiquity, with Socrates complaining how people depending on having things written down will worsen their memory. This generation is so yada yada... My brother in Christ, who do you think raised them to be like that?

Probably it has been the same with every new generation throughout history. However, compare playing Call of Duty to actually experiencing WWII.

 

[M.i.245541]

The older generation is definitely more resilient. But they had it easier, study, work hard and you will be successful. And they are still sticking around, taking the good jobs, in politics, making the decisions that suit them often at the expense of the next generations.
When I see my bosses, who are loaded, over 60 and still holding to their jobs. They don't build for the future, they are just milking the situation and making short term decisions. While the following generation is waiting for their turn and getting impatient.
I just feel that the baby boomer generation is very selfish and caused so much pain over time

 

[dreambound]

i dont mean to make light of the subject of generational validity, but any excuse will do to recommend this you tube clip
(i dont know how to create a link.....) but just search you tube 'doug stanhope on lame celebrities'

 

[Pluto]

The actual DNA of humans has not changed markedly in the past 200,000 years. The only difference is the major changes in environments.

As for being called weak, this is a self-congratulatory term implying that earlier generations causing genocide, war, sexual abuse en masse, famines and the worst mass extinction event in 66 million years is 'tough'. There has always been a need for sensitive people to have a voice in the world, as they are the only hope for bringing it out of the dark ages.

 

[Rational man]

I honestly can't wrap my brain around how the generation prior to mine managed to not all kill themselves off with all the problems they were facing. I was born in the early 90s. What prospective are we missing? What mindset has passed us by?

I feel like they're right when they say this new era of humans has no balls. Me included. We don't want to live but we also don't want to die unless it's painless.
Maybe it was that back then things were so hard that you didn't have time to sit and think about life. Maybe the wars were some sort of key distraction. Idk.

I really want to respect old people. Like... you fucking made it. Regardless of what happened in your life you made it to the final round. Shit man. I barely wanna live passed tomorrow.

I saw this YouTube video of this guy who goes around asking random people their net worth. He asked this one old man who was running in the street. The guy said I'm the wrong person to ask about net worth. I live off a pension and social security. 30k a year. I have trouble just eating every day. I'm the wrong person to ask. I am enjoying this run though. Got my music. I'm just enjoying this run.

That shit felt like I was looking at my future. Only difference is this guy already made it to the final lap and he just cares about enjoying his run for that day. I couldn't picture myself doing that.

Just rambling. Venting. Whatever. Life is rough.

im 36 and.dying but.i try to take each.day.as.it.arrives until i exit plan.B. I sense that some younger people have such great expectations, encouraged by their parents. Of course, disappointment follows. Add to that the downwards spiral of global economy, that previous lifestyle is difficult to replicate. Kids place happiness in object s but it is just empty. Kids are full of fear that is ingrained by our society. They dont get to know themselves . We're all on borrowed time here. Nothing we have comes with us. Sorry kids, no offence. At 36 i dont feel old, my carer.said ive got a baby face but im dying, im suffering.

 

[Extreme_weather]

The worst mass extinction event in 66 million years is 'tough'.

Which event exactly?

 

[Pluto]

Which event exactly?

Your name is particularly appropriate for that question ;)

Holocene extinction - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[lamy's sacred sleep]

I honestly can't wrap my brain around how the generation prior to mine managed to not all kill themselves off with all the problems they were facing. I was born in the early 90s. What prospective are we missing? What mindset has passed us by?

I feel like they're right when they say this new era of humans has no balls. Me included. We don't want to live but we also don't want to die unless it's painless.
Maybe it was that back then things were so hard that you didn't have time to sit and think about life. Maybe the wars were some sort of key distraction. Idk.

I really want to respect old people. Like... you fucking made it. Regardless of what happened in your life you made it to the final round. Shit man. I barely wanna live passed tomorrow.

I saw this YouTube video of this guy who goes around asking random people their net worth. He asked this one old man who was running in the street. The guy said I'm the wrong person to ask about net worth. I live off a pension and social security. 30k a year. I have trouble just eating every day. I'm the wrong person to ask. I am enjoying this run though. Got my music. I'm just enjoying this run.

That shit felt like I was looking at my future. Only difference is this guy already made it to the final lap and he just cares about enjoying his run for that day. I couldn't picture myself doing that.

Just rambling. Venting. Whatever. Life is rough.

Perhaps suicide is easier now, or less spat on by the masses. (depending on where you live)
Also it's hard to convince youself to live when it all seems very hopeless.

 

[Dongle]

To work your ass off your entire life and then have your health stripped away from you? Or to make so many sacrifices in your life for your family and then have the rest of your life plagued with physical disabilities? It's interesting how others see my story as "nice" when I'm the one that has had to live through the horrors of extreme poverty, childhood rape, and lots and lots of hard work.

Sorry, I digress.

I think it's the part that you actually got to be old

You're not "20 something and likely not going to see 30", y'know? If I had to guess I'd imagine that's why they said what they said.

Then again, grass is always greener on the other side.