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Darkover

Darkover

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Jul 29, 2021
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Most people act in their own self-interest, often at the expense of others. Even if they aren't outright malicious, they prioritize themselves and those they care about, leaving everyone else to rot. Exploitation is everywhere. Workplaces squeeze people dry, relationships involve power dynamics, and even basic human interactions are often transactional. The worst people—those who manipulate, lie, cheat, and exploit—often rise to the top, while decent people get crushed under the system.

If you're born into the wrong circumstances—poverty, illness, an abusive family, or just bad genetics—you're already set up to lose. Hard work doesn't guarantee success; luck plays a bigger role than people want to admit. Society pushes the lie that if you just "try harder," you'll make it, but in reality, some people are stuck in cycles they can't escape. And if you fail, it's somehow your fault, even if the system was never built for you to succeed.

Pain is inevitable—physical, emotional, existential—but pleasure is not guaranteed. Even when you do feel pleasure, it's temporary and often followed by a crash. You eat food, and then you're hungry again. You experience a good moment, and then reality sets back in. Even the most privileged people experience boredom, anxiety, and dissatisfaction. There's no real escape from the suffering cycle.

Life is just an endless cycle of needing things to avoid suffering. You need food, water, sleep, shelter, social interaction (even if you don't want it), and money—just to exist. The moment you stop fulfilling any of these needs, suffering begins. This applies to physical needs and psychological ones too. The only escape is death, and even that is denied to people.

Bad people often get away with their actions, and good people suffer for no reason. The idea that everything happens for a reason is bullshit—things just happen, and often they're unfair. You can dedicate your life to doing the "right" things and still get nothing in return. Meanwhile, people who exploit others get rich, powerful, and respected. There's no cosmic justice, no grand purpose—just chaos and suffering.

Even though suffering is constant, society forces people to keep going. You're expected to find ways to cope, to push through, to keep existing even if life is unbearable. Assisted suicide is restricted, and if you try to talk about wanting to opt out, people either try to "fix" you or call you selfish. You didn't ask to be born, but you're forced to endure life anyway.

Life isn't just hard—it's designed to be an inescapable cycle of suffering. No matter how much you try to fix things, new problems arise. There's no true rest, no lasting peace—just a series of struggles until you eventually die. And if there is an afterlife or reincarnation, then the suffering might not even end there.

The system is designed to keep people obedient, exploitable, and dependent. Schools don't exist to educate people in any meaningful way—they exist to condition people to fit into a machine that benefits the ruling class

From a young age, kids are trained to follow orders without question. They are told to sit down, be quiet, and do as they're told. The structure mirrors a workplace: show up on time, obey authority, and complete tasks regardless of whether they make sense or benefit you. Creativity, curiosity, and independent thinking are crushed because obedient workers are more valuable than free thinkers. Students learn how to pass tests, not how to think critically about the world. Most subjects are stripped of anything that would make people question the system.

The curriculum is outdated and useless. Schools don't teach financial literacy, emotional intelligence, or survival skills—things that would actually help people in real life. Instead, they force students to memorize useless facts, conditioning them to accept pointless busywork, just like in a job. They train people to accept that their time and effort belong to an authority figure, even if what they're doing is meaningless.

Schools prepare students for wage slavery. The bell schedule mimics factory shifts. People are taught to work under a rigid time structure, with short breaks in between. There is no freedom to choose what to learn—just like in a job, there is no freedom to choose what to do. The grading system reinforces competition, making people see each other as rivals instead of cooperating. This carries over into the workplace, keeping workers divided so they can't fight back against the system. Schools condition people to accept that their worth is based on performance—just like in a job, where value is tied to productivity rather than well-being.

Schools push propaganda, not truth. History is rewritten to favor those in power. At best, students get a sanitized version of events. At worst, they get outright lies. Nationalism and loyalty to the system are encouraged. People are taught to respect the government and see authority as legitimate, even when it exploits them. The education system deliberately ignores topics that would make people question their place in the system—like labor rights, anti-capitalism, or how the wealthy maintain control. They push the idea that "hard work leads to success," even though success is mostly determined by factors outside a person's control, such as connections, wealth, and luck.

Schools indoctrinate people into consumerism. The system doesn't teach self-sufficiency. Instead of learning practical survival skills like growing food, self-defense, or fixing things, students are trained to be consumers. They are prepared for a life of buying products, taking out loans, and being dependent on corporations. The goal is to make sure people always need a job—so they will never be free from the system.

College is a debt trap. Higher education is presented as the only way to "succeed," but in reality, it's just a way to enslave people with debt before they even start working. Most degrees are useless in the job market, but tuition fees keep rising. The entire system is designed to trap people in financial obligations so they have no choice but to work for survival.

The end goal is a lifetime of work until death. Schools don't prepare people for happiness, freedom, or fulfillment. They prepare people to work, obey, and consume. By the time people realize the scam, they're already stuck with debt, responsibilities, and obligations. The system isn't broken—it works exactly as designed. It keeps the rich in power and keeps everyone else too busy, exhausted, and divided to fight back.

In short, schools don't educate—they condition. The goal is not to make people think but to make them compliant, exploitable, and too distracted to realize they've been trapped in a system that only benefits the elite.
 
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Agreed school is shit. And some people like me can't emotionally handle it cus of things like autism so its just made my life worse. School has made me less unable to tolerate mental pain and the need to obey teachers has given me anxiety around authority figures as I don't want to disappoint or anger them in any way so I don't get punished and seem like the bad person in the situation. Its a system made to make people fear of not going along with it and to make them deal with whatever it makes them do.
 
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Its weird how most people dont question how absurd the whole system is and dont question bringing kids into this mess
 
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Dec 29, 2024
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it's this weird hell realm in my view...it's very hard to make it paradise on earth and usually when you manage to figure out a way there is a catch...
 
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livingonlytodie

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Dec 9, 2024
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Life has been one horrifically awful experience.
The inherent foundations of life are incredibly flawed. Existence itself is flawed. Some people can tolerate it, but some can't. Those of us that can't are just trapped in a miserable existence until our time inevitably runs out.The system tries to lie to us and deceive us by saying we're just depressed, but that's all it is...one big lie. We are spoon fed positive notions to brainwash and distract us from the truth. Life is complete garbage.
 
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Most people act in their own self-interest, often at the expense of others. Even if they aren't outright malicious, they prioritize themselves and those they care about, leaving everyone else to rot. Exploitation is everywhere. Workplaces squeeze people dry, relationships involve power dynamics, and even basic human interactions are often transactional. The worst people—those who manipulate, lie, cheat, and exploit—often rise to the top, while decent people get crushed under the system.

If you're born into the wrong circumstances—poverty, illness, an abusive family, or just bad genetics—you're already set up to lose. Hard work doesn't guarantee success; luck plays a bigger role than people want to admit. Society pushes the lie that if you just "try harder," you'll make it, but in reality, some people are stuck in cycles they can't escape. And if you fail, it's somehow your fault, even if the system was never built for you to succeed.

Pain is inevitable—physical, emotional, existential—but pleasure is not guaranteed. Even when you do feel pleasure, it's temporary and often followed by a crash. You eat food, and then you're hungry again. You experience a good moment, and then reality sets back in. Even the most privileged people experience boredom, anxiety, and dissatisfaction. There's no real escape from the suffering cycle.

Life is just an endless cycle of needing things to avoid suffering. You need food, water, sleep, shelter, social interaction (even if you don't want it), and money—just to exist. The moment you stop fulfilling any of these needs, suffering begins. This applies to physical needs and psychological ones too. The only escape is death, and even that is denied to people.

Bad people often get away with their actions, and good people suffer for no reason. The idea that everything happens for a reason is bullshit—things just happen, and often they're unfair. You can dedicate your life to doing the "right" things and still get nothing in return. Meanwhile, people who exploit others get rich, powerful, and respected. There's no cosmic justice, no grand purpose—just chaos and suffering.

Even though suffering is constant, society forces people to keep going. You're expected to find ways to cope, to push through, to keep existing even if life is unbearable. Assisted suicide is restricted, and if you try to talk about wanting to opt out, people either try to "fix" you or call you selfish. You didn't ask to be born, but you're forced to endure life anyway.

Life isn't just hard—it's designed to be an inescapable cycle of suffering. No matter how much you try to fix things, new problems arise. There's no true rest, no lasting peace—just a series of struggles until you eventually die. And if there is an afterlife or reincarnation, then the suffering might not even end there.

The system is designed to keep people obedient, exploitable, and dependent. Schools don't exist to educate people in any meaningful way—they exist to condition people to fit into a machine that benefits the ruling class

From a young age, kids are trained to follow orders without question. They are told to sit down, be quiet, and do as they're told. The structure mirrors a workplace: show up on time, obey authority, and complete tasks regardless of whether they make sense or benefit you. Creativity, curiosity, and independent thinking are crushed because obedient workers are more valuable than free thinkers. Students learn how to pass tests, not how to think critically about the world. Most subjects are stripped of anything that would make people question the system.

The curriculum is outdated and useless. Schools don't teach financial literacy, emotional intelligence, or survival skills—things that would actually help people in real life. Instead, they force students to memorize useless facts, conditioning them to accept pointless busywork, just like in a job. They train people to accept that their time and effort belong to an authority figure, even if what they're doing is meaningless.

Schools prepare students for wage slavery. The bell schedule mimics factory shifts. People are taught to work under a rigid time structure, with short breaks in between. There is no freedom to choose what to learn—just like in a job, there is no freedom to choose what to do. The grading system reinforces competition, making people see each other as rivals instead of cooperating. This carries over into the workplace, keeping workers divided so they can't fight back against the system. Schools condition people to accept that their worth is based on performance—just like in a job, where value is tied to productivity rather than well-being.

Schools push propaganda, not truth. History is rewritten to favor those in power. At best, students get a sanitized version of events. At worst, they get outright lies. Nationalism and loyalty to the system are encouraged. People are taught to respect the government and see authority as legitimate, even when it exploits them. The education system deliberately ignores topics that would make people question their place in the system—like labor rights, anti-capitalism, or how the wealthy maintain control. They push the idea that "hard work leads to success," even though success is mostly determined by factors outside a person's control, such as connections, wealth, and luck.

Schools indoctrinate people into consumerism. The system doesn't teach self-sufficiency. Instead of learning practical survival skills like growing food, self-defense, or fixing things, students are trained to be consumers. They are prepared for a life of buying products, taking out loans, and being dependent on corporations. The goal is to make sure people always need a job—so they will never be free from the system.

College is a debt trap. Higher education is presented as the only way to "succeed," but in reality, it's just a way to enslave people with debt before they even start working. Most degrees are useless in the job market, but tuition fees keep rising. The entire system is designed to trap people in financial obligations so they have no choice but to work for survival.

The end goal is a lifetime of work until death. Schools don't prepare people for happiness, freedom, or fulfillment. They prepare people to work, obey, and consume. By the time people realize the scam, they're already stuck with debt, responsibilities, and obligations. The system isn't broken—it works exactly as designed. It keeps the rich in power and keeps everyone else too busy, exhausted, and divided to fight back.

In short, schools don't educate—they condition. The goal is not to make people think but to make them compliant, exploitable, and too distracted to realize they've been trapped in a system that only benefits the elite.
You have made a perfect description! You have only forgotten the chapter of brainwashing of religions to complete the picture of misery of these lives.
 
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Mar 16, 2025
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We are born crying because We instinctively know that We have been born into a hellish world.
We are forced into brainwashing academies called schools and forced to learn mostly useless shit in order to train us to become wage - slaves, having most of our childhood days stolen from us in the process.
We then work ourselves half to death in order to buy a load of mostly useless shit, and if youre lucky enough to reach retirement age youre already fucked.
You then die and all youre hard earned assets either go to relatives who probably hate you or they go to the government.
Its all so ridiculous that its almost funny.
Its weird how most people dont question how absurd the whole system is and dont question bringing kids into this mess
Agreed, I count not having kids as my greatest achievement.
 
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Feb 13, 2025
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Life is just an endless cycle of needing things to avoid suffering. You need food, water, sleep, shelter, social interaction (even if you don't want it), and money—just to exist. The moment you stop fulfilling any of these needs, suffering begins. This applies to physical needs and psychological ones too. The only escape is death, and even that is denied to people.
And the fact that it's all my responsibility makes it borderline worse. I never chose to be alive, yet people will scorn me if I say I don't want to do any of these things. People will say "No one will be able to help you but yourself," or "At the end of the day, you need to grow up since your well-being is your responsibility and it's OWED to others around you, so suck it up." And I hate fucking hearing it because when did I ever sign up for this shit? Like yeah you didn't ask to be born either, and you're a functioning member of society, but I wasn't made like you... I'm defected. I wasn't meant for life. I wasn't ever cut out for it.

It's the fact that I had no say in being born that makes me feel sick. It's also worse for me because I am very afraid of physical pain and physical pain is unavoidable in life at some point. Every time I am in physical pain, or I have to endure medical stuff that I am deathly phobic of, I just hate having been born to even have to go through all this stuff.
 
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Darkover

Darkover

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And the fact that it's all my responsibility makes it borderline worse. I never chose to be alive, yet people will scorn me if I say I don't want to do any of these things. People will say "No one will be able to help you but yourself," or "At the end of the day, you need to grow up since your well-being is your responsibility and it's OWED to others around you, so suck it up." And I hate fucking hearing it because when did I ever sign up for this shit? Like yeah you didn't ask to be born either, and you're a functioning member of society, but I wasn't made like you... I'm defected. I wasn't meant for life. I wasn't ever cut out for it.

It's the fact that I had no say in being born that makes me feel sick. It's also worse for me because I am very afraid of physical pain and physical pain is unavoidable in life at some point. Every time I am in physical pain, or I have to endure medical stuff that I am deathly phobic of, I just hate having been born to even have to go through all this stuff.
It's infuriating when people act like you owe them effort just because you exist—especially when you never chose to be here in the first place. They try to justify it by saying "everyone has to deal with it," but that doesn't change the fact that the whole system is broken, and some people just aren't built to tolerate it the same way. You're not a machine that can be forced to function like everyone else just because they think you should.

And the fear of pain just adds another layer to it. It's not just the constant effort of survival—it's knowing that suffering is guaranteed, that no matter what you do, you'll have to go through pain at some point. It's cruel. There's no escape, no choice, and yet people still expect you to just accept it as if it's normal. But what's normal to them doesn't mean it's fair, and it sure as hell doesn't make it okay.
 
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It's infuriating when people act like you owe them effort just because you exist—especially when you never chose to be here in the first place. They try to justify it by saying "everyone has to deal with it," but that doesn't change the fact that the whole system is broken, and some people just aren't built to tolerate it the same way. You're not a machine that can be forced to function like everyone else just because they think you should.

And the fear of pain just adds another layer to it. It's not just the constant effort of survival—it's knowing that suffering is guaranteed, that no matter what you do, you'll have to go through pain at some point. It's cruel. There's no escape, no choice, and yet people still expect you to just accept it as if it's normal. But what's normal to them doesn't mean it's fair, and it sure as hell doesn't make it okay.
Your response made me breathe a little easier in a way so thanks ☺️ It's nice to get some acknowledgement that not everyone is built the same way, being able to tolerate the broken system. Other people around me just don't seem to get it. And in a way, I'm envious that they can somehow be alive without feeling any of the thoughts I wrote out. But yeah, it sucks having to hear that kinda stuff in response every single time.
 
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Michelstaedter

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Feb 25, 2025
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You've perfectly described what the system is. There's not much to add. Even though the cycle repeats itself from generation to generation, the model changes, but the idea is the same: "those at the bottom and those at the top."
The desire thing is a great advantage that the system takes advantage of perfectly. You can work hard to buy a car, a house, or whatever you want, but then you'll go back to work to maintain what you bought, and with luck, and if you make a lot of money, you'll want to buy more properties, more objects, you'll want to travel the world, and you'll never be satisfied. You may even feel depressed, empty, anxious, and sad, in the worst case, despite having everything you've achieved.

Schools are simply a stage that serves as a prelude to what follows, and students will be the workers of the future, prepared to face a harsh reality, which they sometimes ignore and thus accept willingly, thinking the system wants the best for them, until finally a few realize something is wrong, but they are forgotten, as if they were deranged, crazy, or sick. We are taught to repeat, not to be critical. Why are things the way they are? This is the question needed to solve many of the problems that exist. However, the answer is: "Things are the way they are because they have to be that way." Very similar to religion, with its beliefs and doctrines, which only foster docile "sheep," part of a flock destined to fulfill an imposed role and nothing more.
Freedom? A myth, an idea, in today's world it is rare; it doesn't exist. Most of what we do has been done and we are prisoners, first of all of our bodies, then of the indoctrination system that finally makes us believe at some point that our ideas and thoughts are freedom, but it is only the conditioning we have received since we were born.

"A weight hangs on a hook, and in hanging it suffers that it cannot descend: it cannot get off the hook, because how much it is a weight hangs and how much it hangs depends. We want to satisfy it: we free it from its dependence; we let it go, that it may satiate its hunger for the lowest, and descend independently until it is content to descend. But at no point does stopping satisfy it and it still wants to descend, because the next point is lower than the one it holds each time. And none of the future points will be such as to satisfy it, which will be necessary to its life, as long as it waits for it to be lower; but each time made present, each point will be made empty of all attraction for it, no longer being lower, so that at each point it lacks the lowest points and these attract it more and more: it is always held by an equal hunger for the lowest, and the will to descend remains infinite."

Carlo Michelstaedter

"The cities in which we live in are schools of death, because they are dishuman. Each one of them has become a den of noise and of stench, for each of one has became a chaos of buildings, in which we ammass ourselves in millions, losing our life's reasons. Unfortunates without escape, we feel to have put ourselves, willing or not, in the labyrinth of the absurd, from which we will leave only when we will die, for our destiny is to continue to multiply ourselves, only to die in great numbers. At every turn of the wheel, the cities in which we live in advance slowly one against the other, desiring only to confuse with each other: it's a run towards the absolute chaos, in the noise and in the stench. At every turn of the wheel the price of the grounds go up, and in the labyrinth which devours the free space the revenue of the investiments builds up, day after day, hundreds of walls. It's necessary that money give revenues and that the cities in which we live in advance, so it's right that the houses double their height at every generation, even if the water is missing half of the days. The builders only desire to escape the destiny that they prepare for us, moving towards the countryside."

Albert Caraco
 
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