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there is no progress in life i mean you are enslaved in a machine not of your choosing, there's no real way to change the machine you are or improve on it, no amount of self improvement can make up for a crappy machine to being with, the universe dictates our actions like eating drinking sleeping weeing pooing sex you are a slave to your biological needs destined to fade away into oblivion whether you like it or not
 
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Life is only a prison of endless suffering. The only escape and freedom is death.
 
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Forever Sleep

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There's likely no end in trying to satisfy our needs- true. That in part though is what drives people to keep improving. Imagine if your favourite musician played his their chord and thought- well, I'm not going to better that. I'll quit while I'm ahead.

Of course there's progress though. Your TV didn't materialise out of nothing. It's current iteration began in the 1920's when the screen was 9x12 inches. Now, people can buy for the equivalent money that cost back then, a 98 inch screen TV! Plus, it will continue to be improved upon long after we are dead.

It truly would be awful if we weren't able to pass knowledge on to future generations. We'd have no language, we'd still be freezing our arses off in caves I imagine.

I do understand the frustration with our limited biological bodies. Most especially when they go wrong but still- we wouldn't be the dominant species we are on the planet if we hadn't made such massive leaps of 'progress'. Of course, it may all come to an abrubt hault if we manage to make the earth uninhabitable! That's something else though I guess.

Still, I do get the frustration that you want to be able to be so much more. It is a kind of curse really.
 
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Of course there's progress though. Your TV didn't materialise out of nothing. It's current iteration began in the 1920's when the screen was 9x12 inches. Now, people can buy for the equivalent money that cost back then, a 98 inch screen TV! Plus, it will continue to be improved upon long after we are dead.
While we've developed better TVs, faster cars, and life-saving medical advancements, these achievements haven't solved core existential problems like suffering, mortality, or inequality. We're still subject to the same biological drives, emotions, and limitations that humans had thousands of years ago. The tools have changed, but the human condition remains fundamentally the same.

But technological progress doesn't necessarily translate into personal or existential progress, which might be why it feels hollow when you're stuck in the cycles of human existence. A better TV doesn't free us from the biological or emotional constraints of being human—it might just distract us from them for a while.

It's almost like the progress of the external world keeps racing ahead, while our internal worlds—the ones bound by eating, sleeping, aging, and dying—stay just as limited as they were 100,000 years ago. That's a frustrating divide. It can feel like all the innovation in the world doesn't change the core reality of being human.

Even the greatest advancements are temporary. Civilizations rise and fall, technologies become obsolete, and all things decay over time. The universe itself will one day fade into heat death. In this context, progress is fleeting and ultimately inconsequential.

Despite all advancements, we still face the inevitability of death. The ultimate problem of existence—our transient nature—remains unsolved. No amount of innovation has freed us from this fundamental reality.
 
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Forever Sleep

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While we've developed better TVs, faster cars, and life-saving medical advancements, these achievements haven't solved core existential problems like suffering, mortality, or inequality. We're still subject to the same biological drives, emotions, and limitations that humans had thousands of years ago. The tools have changed, but the human condition remains fundamentally the same.

But technological progress doesn't necessarily translate into personal or existential progress, which might be why it feels hollow when you're stuck in the cycles of human existence. A better TV doesn't free us from the biological or emotional constraints of being human—it might just distract us from them for a while.

It's almost like the progress of the external world keeps racing ahead, while our internal worlds—the ones bound by eating, sleeping, aging, and dying—stay just as limited as they were 100,000 years ago. That's a frustrating divide. It can feel like all the innovation in the world doesn't change the core reality of being human.

Even the greatest advancements are temporary. Civilizations rise and fall, technologies become obsolete, and all things decay over time. The universe itself will one day fade into heat death. In this context, progress is fleeting and ultimately inconsequential.

Despite all advancements, we still face the inevitability of death. The ultimate problem of existence—our transient nature—remains unsolved. No amount of innovation has freed us from this fundamental reality.

Actually yeah- that's so true. Maybe even worse actually, our hunger for technology means that the divide in quality of life widens. Both when you consider how many people desire (and sometimes buy) things they can't afford. Plus, the poor sods who have to build these things, mine the components in terrible conditions, or break them apart at the end of their use to retrieve precious (and toxic) elements.

Yeah, all fair points. It actually is kind of weird when you consider how fortunate we are in a lot of ways. So many machines to make life easier. The internet to entertain us. So much being affordable to more now yet, so many people still seem unhappy.

True, in some ways, we've gone forward to go backwards. I guess perhaps the key thing is- we don't really live in close knit social groups so much. Many of us don't eat healthily or exercise or get outdoors enough. I think basically, we ignore how our biology works basically and, we don't actually give it what it needs.
 

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