Discussion Therapy won't fix all of your problems

[BlooBerryBanjo3000]

I've never been to therapy, but don't think therapy and medications will be enough to fix me. To me, it seems like putting a band aid on a small, yet, deep crack on the road. Medications might make me happy, but not actually fix the root of my problems. It's like you're happy, but still hate life deep down. It's like being fake happy (not truly happy) in a life that you no longer wish to be in. And I've heard plenty of stories where if you're too honest with your therapist, you end up in a psych ward or something. That's a chance I'm not willing to take whether it's true or not.

It feels like in order to enjoy life, you have to be delusional or something. I don't know. I just don't get pro-lifers.

 

[slowdance]

For me, I didn't find any success with CBT, which is the form of therapy that most therapists do. My suicidal ideation was put on pause for 2 years through a comprehensive DBT program. DBT feels like it's more geared towards real people with real life and real struggles. CBT blames your broken brain for all your problems. DBT acknowledges that systemic oppression exists and life really can just dump on you sometimes. I think DBT is effective if you can come up with a life worth living goal and you don't consider ice water to be torture. Also it only works at certified DBT places. Every time I've tried DBT with a place that wasn't officially certified, I got retraumatized by bullies who think being a therapist is about abusing power over vulnerable people. DBT from an uncertified place will actively make your life worse.

Medication is probably the main reason I have the energy to be planning out an attempt to CTB. It doesn't make me happy. It numbs me out. But it also gives me the motivation to do things in my life. I can brush my teeth and shower and do chores way more easily now that I'm medicated properly. I'm on mood stabilizers not antidepressants because I have bipolar disorder. Personally if medication could make me happy, I wouldn't be worried about whether it's fake or not. Clothes make me feel warm even though they're artificial covering. I don't think an artificial happiness is any more fake than a natural one.

At least in the US, therapists are legally mandated reporters. If you tell them about harm to child, harm to elders, plans to kill yourself, or plans to harm someone else, they have to contact authorities (either cops or people who work with cops). It's an unfortunate deal with therapy that you just can't tell them about suicide plans. Most normal therapists will not freak out on you if you say you have passive ideation. And you can tell them anything else that isn't in the legally mandated categories. I really like my current therapist and a part of me feels bad that when I CTB she might feel like she wasn't a good enough therapist. I don't think there's anything anyone's best efforts could do to stop me. It's just inevitable.

But yeah, just wanted to share my experience going through therapy and medication. People have a lot of different experiences cus there's lots of different types of therapy, lots of different types of medication, and varying qualities of therapists and doctors

 

[nembutaldream]

And I've heard plenty of stories where if you're too honest with your therapist, you end up in a psych ward or something. That's a chance I'm not willing to take whether it's true or not.

Don't take the chance. The one I trusted the most out of literally 50-60 I've been to outright lied to me and had me put in the ward TWICE even after reassuring me she'd never do that. Hate that *****.

 

[BlooBerryBanjo3000]

Don't take the chance. The one I trusted the most out of literally 50-60 I've been to outright lied to me and had me put in the ward TWICE even after reassuring me she'd never do that. Hate that *****.

Oof. I wasn't planning on going to therapy anyway. But if I did, then I definitely wouldn't take that chance.

 

[depthss]

ive had about half a dozen therapists/psychologists in my life. they all sucked, aside from the guy i see now. i can honestly say that he is the only person in my life that ive ever fully trusted at all. he has helped me tremendously in many different areas in my life, but i am convinced that nobody can ever shake me off my feelings towards suicide. thats the one thing he can't do for me. the rest of them didnt even see the tip of the iceberg, but hes done so much for me. most therapists are honestly useless, but, in my honest opinion, i do think it could be worth a shot, you might get lucky and find a good one. even if he cant keep me alive forever, he can at least make the last years better, and thats good enough for me.

 

[Rymrgand]

Don't take the chance. The one I trusted the most out of literally 50-60 I've been to outright lied to me and had me put in the ward TWICE even after reassuring me she'd never do that. Hate that *****.

What did you say to them? I feel like there would be more people inside than outside if they put in the ward everyone who has passive ideation sometimes.

But anyway, if you don't want to tell them, there's no need, really. Suicide is a symptom, and therapy should be used to treat the problems.

 

[nembutaldream]

What did you say to them? I feel like there would be more people inside than outside if they put in the ward everyone who has passive ideation sometimes.

But anyway, if you don't want to tell them, there's no need, really. Suicide is a symptom, and therapy should be used to treat the problems.

I stupidly told her I had some ideas for plans. Not imminent plans but I named some methods. She didn't immediately put me away but waited until being hospitalized would also ruin my physical health so I know it's not bc she actually cared.

 

[divinemistress87]

Therapy is a temporary distraction
I feel better during the sessions but then next day I just go back to being depressed

 

[areyousafe??]

ive had about half a dozen therapists/psychologists in my life. they all sucked, aside from the guy i see now. i can honestly say that he is the only person in my life that ive ever fully trusted at all. he has helped me tremendously in many different areas in my life, but i am convinced that nobody can ever shake me off my feelings towards suicide. thats the one thing he can't do for me. the rest of them didnt even see the tip of the iceberg, but hes done so much for me. most therapists are honestly useless, but, in my honest opinion, i do think it could be worth a shot, you might get lucky and find a good one. even if he cant keep me alive forever, he can at least make the last years better, and thats good enough for me.

What do you find different between the guy you are seeing now and your previous therapists/psychologists?

 

[SilentSadness]

In my opinion, they are useless and scams, to be honest I never understood the "keep trying and find a good therapist" attitude. It's an extremely toxic mindset to put on someone since it's denying their experience and blaming them for not trying hard enough. In reality, if someone has real problems [everyone] there's nothing a therapist can do because they're the ones getting paid and they don't have the magic wand. The mental health industry is one of the most profitable in the world which speaks volumes about the value of what they're really providing, and all that money often goes directly into more "awareness" propaganda campaigns. The same campaigns spreading misinformation like "suicidal people just need to be recommended therapy", so it's no wonder why it's so popular. From my experience, mental health councelling / services are hilariously incompetent and will prescribe life long antidepressants without diagnosis and suggest increasing the dose when you say they don't work (obviously dangerous). It's pretty much the bloodletting of the modern age and will continue to farm money from people for decades to come.

 

[ForgottenAgain]

In my opinion, they are useless and scams, to be honest I never understood the "keep trying and find a good therapist" attitude. It's an extremely toxic mindset to put on someone since it's denying their experience and blaming them for not trying hard enough. In reality, if someone has real problems [everyone] there's nothing a therapist can do because they're the ones getting paid and they don't have the magic wand. The mental health industry is one of the most profitable in the world which speaks volumes about the value of what they're really providing, and all that money often goes directly into more "awareness" propaganda campaigns. The same campaigns spreading misinformation like "suicidal people just need to be recommended therapy", so it's no wonder why it's so popular. From my experience, mental health councelling / services are hilariously incompetent and will prescribe life long antidepressants without diagnosis and suggest increasing the dose when you say they don't work (obviously dangerous). It's pretty much the bloodletting of the modern age and will continue to farm money from people for decades to come.

After my experience with psychologists and psychiatrists in England, I have to agree. There is a lot of incompetence and psychiatrists specifically are horrendous.

Back in Portugal however, I did get good treatment from my psychologist and psychiatrist. The best I've ever had.

I just think there is a ton of scammers and a lot of the "science" I don't think is really there. Psychiatrists are too happy to increase med dosages and just prescribe meds for everything and anything even when it may not warrant medication.

 

[50decadesleft]

Yeah, I've never tried any help. Just destroying myself slowly

 

[ChefTesta]

In fact, therapy won't fix a single one of your problems. From personal experience, it only seems to exasperate and make things worse

 

[Reflection]

Any form of "help" that just tries to make me "accept" my situation can go fuck right off. I don't want to gaslight myself just to be able to live, as much as I don't hate my life its

 

[Mr.Tristesse]

All is a tall older. But it might not even fix one.

 

[OhWellDerp321]

It honestly depends what you want to gain from therapy. If you want to actually improve, then maybe it can help. But I find most of the time, I am just lonely and want to talk to someone about suicide. But it ends up feeling like a lie every time I speak to a therapist. Because at the end of the day, I can never be honest with them for the fear of being thrown in a psych ward.

 

[MatrixPrisoner]

Of course it won't. Therapy cannot bend reality.