Stick

Stick

Experienced
Aug 31, 2020
269
Off topic and suicide discussions are so big, it makes me kinda sad.
 
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Squiddy

Squiddy

Here Lies My Hopes And Dreams
Sep 4, 2019
5,903
I think this one is the newest out of the 3
 
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Good4Nothing

Good4Nothing

Unlovable
May 8, 2020
1,865
I don't even pay attention to what forum I'm posting in. I just hit the "New posts" button occasionally and see if anything interests me.
 
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Stick

Stick

Experienced
Aug 31, 2020
269
I think this one is the newest out of the 3
True, but the rate of posts is a lot slower, too. I know this is a suicide forum, but idk... it still makes me sad I guess.
I don't even pay attention to what forum I'm posting in. I just hit the "New posts" button occasionally and see if anything interests me.
That's fair, I'm only really paying attention today, anyways
 
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Squiddy

Squiddy

Here Lies My Hopes And Dreams
Sep 4, 2019
5,903
True, but the rate of posts is a lot slower, too. I know this is a suicide forum, but idk... it still makes me sad I guess.

That's fair, I'm only really paying attention today, anyways
I noticed it a couple months ago and yeah it makes me sad too that members here are suffering/struggling
 
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sadworld

sadworld

existence is a nightmare
Aug 25, 2020
3,870
Yeah, it's truly sad... I think most people join this community because they want to find ways to ctb and they don't even look at the recovery section...
 
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Panna

Panna

Enlightened
Aug 31, 2020
1,006
I like to think that many of them don't want to delude themselves into thinking that life could get better. As sad said, they mainly join this community in order to find ways to ctb, I doubt that a random person would normally end up here otherwise.
 
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Sensei

Sensei

剣道家
Nov 4, 2019
6,336
I think part of the explanation is that when you feel bad, you feel the need to post about it, but not when you feel normal or good.
 
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Soulless Angel

Soulless Angel

Did someone say Rum?
Jul 6, 2020
1,272
Off topic and suicide discussions are so big, it makes me kinda sad.


I also only click new topics or whatever, but even though it may be small, the fact the recovery section is there is a good thing, it may not be used often as many prefer to post when feeling bad, no one wants to be seen as bragging on a good day. Many People here can empathize with hell, Not many can with the good. and that's the heartbreaking part.
 
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Dr Iron Arc

Dr Iron Arc

Into the Unknown
Feb 10, 2020
21,030
I noticed this a while ago too and it's kind of unfortunate, but sadly, not surprising...
 
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Cant Maintain

Cant Maintain

Garbage Fire
Aug 21, 2020
147
I used to try and be here more often, but stuff keeps dragging me to the other. It is kind of a bummer. I really wish that folks would explore recovery more tbh, I even asked for a recovery chat section, got one and was ELATED, and its always so quiet that I feel like it's empty 90% of the time =(
 
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Mr2005

Mr2005

Don't shoot the messenger, give me the gun
Sep 25, 2018
3,622
It's good it's here because it might make people think twice but once they have they tend to leave. Those of us who want to kill ourselves are here forever. That's because I don't really but I don't think recovery is possible either. If I did I'd leave too
 
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Jul 31, 2018
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It was bound to be this way. It is sad, indeed, but then the need for this website is sad too. I no longer frequent the main forum. I just...can't anymore. So I spend less time here generally. Offtopic though, well that's the way I live my weird life.
 
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muffin222

muffin222

Enlightened
Mar 31, 2020
1,188
I think another big factor is that people who truly attempt recovery often decide to leave the site altogether instead of posting in the recovery section. I know when I attempted recovery, I opted to just leave the site entirely because I knew I couldn't resist reading the main forum if I stuck around.
 
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woxihuanni

woxihuanni

Illuminated
Aug 19, 2019
3,299
Another factor is that not everybody here is here because of mental health issues. Homelessness, chronic illness, etc. won't go away by 'recovering' from them.
 
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Meretlein

Meretlein

Moderator
Feb 15, 2019
1,199
There are plenty of places for mental health recovery so users have more places to choose from.

There are very few places to have a candid discussion about suicide that isn't steeped with prolife ideology. People looking for that don't have many other places to choose from so those subforums of SS are naturally larger.
 
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ihnaus419

Member
Sep 11, 2020
20
Yeah, it's truly sad... I think most people join this community because they want to find ways to ctb and they don't even look at the recovery section...

I came only to do research on SN and getting meto, but after I registered I started looking at the other sections. The community here is much less horrible than Reddit, so it's nice to be here.
 
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sadworld

sadworld

existence is a nightmare
Aug 25, 2020
3,870
I came only to do research on SN and getting meto, but after I registered I started looking at the other sections. The community here is much less horrible than Reddit, so it's nice to be here.
Yeah, this community is awesome :heart: I'm glad you also like it here.
 
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mahakaliSS_MahaDurga

mahakaliSS_MahaDurga

Visionary
Apr 2, 2020
2,404
My guess is that most people who start recovery just leave this site and move forward.
 
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Weather

Weather

Student
Oct 18, 2020
152
I'm new with having an account here, but I've lurked for awhile. I found this website while I was in crisis, and honestly, it's pretty fast and easy to find the information that you need about a method here if that's what you're after. The discussion on the suicide part of the forum, however.... I don't know. It kept me here. At first, I related to what I was reading and enjoyed not feeling like I was the only one who felt like this (let's be honest, mental health crises make us pretty myopic). But eventually, it made me actually not want to kill myself anymore. It seemed sort of... sick, I guess. Like, glamorizing or making a spectacle of one's death, subtle encouragement toward others to make this choice. It seemed pretty clear that if that's not how you see suicide, you aren't really welcome on the suicide discussion section. I continue to read some of it, but I try not to make posts there unless it touches on an area of my non-suicide related expertise and I can't contain myself (Lord knows I'm a pain-in-the-ass know-it-all).

But, the thing is, I still think about killing myself everyday. I want to be able to talk about those feelings, even while rejecting that killing myself is a forgone conclusion. You can't do that on other websites, or even with friends/family in real life without some freaking the F out. So, I still have a need for a place like this -- and clearly the only place I can exist on this website and not feel like a dick is in the "Recovery" portion of the forum. I suspect there are probably others here who feel like this too. I don't know. I wish there were more posting here.
 
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sadworld

sadworld

existence is a nightmare
Aug 25, 2020
3,870
I'm new with having an account here, but I've lurked for awhile. I found this website while I was in crisis, and honestly, it's pretty fast and easy to find the information that you need about a method here if that's what you're after. The discussion on the suicide part of the forum, however.... I don't know. It kept me here. At first, I related to what I was reading and enjoyed not feeling like I was the only one who felt like this (let's be honest, mental health crises make us pretty myopic). But eventually, it made me actually not want to kill myself anymore. It seemed sort of... sick, I guess. Like, glamorizing or making a spectacle of one's death, subtle encouragement toward others to make this choice. It seemed pretty clear that if that's not how you see suicide, you aren't really welcome on the suicide discussion section. I continue to read some of it, but I try not to make posts there unless it touches on an area of my non-suicide related expertise and I can't contain myself (Lord knows I'm a pain-in-the-ass know-it-all).

But, the thing is, I still think about killing myself everyday. I want to be able to talk about those feelings, even while rejecting that killing myself is a forgone conclusion. You can't do that on other websites, or even with friends/family in real life without some freaking the F out. So, I still have a need for a place like this -- and clearly the only place I can exist on this website and not feel like a dick is in the "Recovery" portion of the forum. I suspect there are probably others here who feel like this too. I don't know. I wish there were more posting here.
I've never received encouragement to ctb on here and that's forbidden on this website, it's pro-choice, not pro-suicide.
 
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Weather

Weather

Student
Oct 18, 2020
152
I've never received encouragement to ctb on here and that's forbidden on this website, it's pro-choice, not pro-suicide.

Yes, yes, I know. I honestly don't think anyone is directly telling anyone to off themselves (at least not that I've seen).

It's subtle. For example, it seems that many people here have issues with making social connections in real life; they are lonely. And then everyone who posts a "goodbye" thread gets lots of people -- even those they have never interacted with -- giving them attention, expressing positive thoughts for them, etc. Pages worth. If they then post photos or give a play-by-play of their death, they get even more attention and positive feedback. Is anyone telling them to kill themselves? No. But is there a subtle (likely unintentional) encouragement? Yes. Not necessarily for the person who made the thread, but for those watching who need that kind of positive regard and attention.

There are other examples of course, but that one seems pretty obvious.

It is what it is. But, it's not something I would be comfortable participating in.
 
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sadworld

sadworld

existence is a nightmare
Aug 25, 2020
3,870
Yes, yes, I know. I honestly don't think anyone is directly telling anyone to off themselves (at least not that I've seen).

It's subtle. For example, it seems that many people here have issues with making social connections in real life; they are lonely. And then everyone who posts a "goodbye" thread gets lots of people -- even those they have never interacted with -- giving them attention, expressing positive thoughts for them, etc. Pages worth. If they then post photos or give a play-by-play of their death, they get even more attention and positive feedback. Is anyone telling them to kill themselves? No. But is there a subtle (likely unintentional) encouragement? Yes. Not necessarily for the person who made the thread, but for those watching who need that kind of positive regard and attention.

There are other examples of course, but that one seems pretty obvious.

It is what it is. But, it's not something I would be comfortable participating in.
Okay, I totally understand. It's really sad to see people leave and there are also many goodbye threads where I had to cry because I personally spoke with those people or really enjoyed seeing them around here.
 
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PointlessStruggle

PointlessStruggle

Wretch
Oct 28, 2020
104
Yes, yes, I know. I honestly don't think anyone is directly telling anyone to off themselves (at least not that I've seen).

It's subtle. For example, it seems that many people here have issues with making social connections in real life; they are lonely. And then everyone who posts a "goodbye" thread gets lots of people -- even those they have never interacted with -- giving them attention, expressing positive thoughts for them, etc. Pages worth. If they then post photos or give a play-by-play of their death, they get even more attention and positive feedback. Is anyone telling them to kill themselves? No. But is there a subtle (likely unintentional) encouragement? Yes. Not necessarily for the person who made the thread, but for those watching who need that kind of positive regard and attention.

There are other examples of course, but that one seems pretty obvious.

It is what it is. But, it's not something I would be comfortable participating in.
I see where you're coming from. For some people it may be the most positive attention they'll ever get so it is probably somewhat enticing. I hope that people don't decide to commit to ctb just because of 5 minutes of fame though
 
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VivaldiBR

VivaldiBR

Experienced
Oct 4, 2020
249
Yes, yes, I know. I honestly don't think anyone is directly telling anyone to off themselves (at least not that I've seen).

It's subtle. For example, it seems that many people here have issues with making social connections in real life; they are lonely. And then everyone who posts a "goodbye" thread gets lots of people -- even those they have never interacted with -- giving them attention, expressing positive thoughts for them, etc. Pages worth. If they then post photos or give a play-by-play of their death, they get even more attention and positive feedback. Is anyone telling them to kill themselves? No. But is there a subtle (likely unintentional) encouragement? Yes. Not necessarily for the person who made the thread, but for those watching who need that kind of positive regard and attention.

There are other examples of course, but that one seems pretty obvious.

It is what it is. But, it's not something I would be comfortable participating in.

I think it will be a great idea a forum website only about recovery. I dont even comment or read the goodbye threads. I will never encourage or discourage ctb.
 
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MichaelNomad123

MichaelNomad123

Jesus
Oct 15, 2020
433
Yes, yes, I know. I honestly don't think anyone is directly telling anyone to off themselves (at least not that I've seen).

It's subtle. For example, it seems that many people here have issues with making social connections in real life; they are lonely. And then everyone who posts a "goodbye" thread gets lots of people -- even those they have never interacted with -- giving them attention, expressing positive thoughts for them, etc. Pages worth. If they then post photos or give a play-by-play of their death, they get even more attention and positive feedback. Is anyone telling them to kill themselves? No. But is there a subtle (likely unintentional) encouragement? Yes. Not necessarily for the person who made the thread, but for those watching who need that kind of positive regard and attention.

There are other examples of course, but that one seems pretty obvious.

It is what it is. But, it's not something I would be comfortable participating in.
It's nice to read that someone else sees what I see. I attracted a lot of heat for saying something similar in a thread of the "suicide" forum. I described it as a culture and tried to explain how culture removes elements of choice or at very least influences it. Even that isn't really very accurate to say. I just know that there is something that doesn't sit well with me and it is independent of my personal struggles with suicide.
 
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lonelymountaingirl

lonelymountaingirl

just passing through
Oct 21, 2020
55
I think it will be a great idea a forum website only about recovery.

If you want that, go to suicideforum dot com. It's a lot more 'cope'y than this site.

Apologies mods if this gets me banned. Not trying to be an advert
:(
 
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Marchioness

Eternal sleep
Feb 17, 2020
296
I dunno about anyone else but when I'm in recovery mode I'm not here. I'm of in the world doing recovery things, that's why I disappear for a few months then come back. I originally came for the ctb forums but I mostly post in the offtopic. I feel like it's a good neutral space to get to know people here.
 
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flatearth

flatearth

dot
Aug 27, 2020
108
yes i noticed that when i first joined:aw:
 
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sufferingalways

sufferingalways

Avoiding flashing images, epilepsy.
Apr 26, 2020
550
I think it will be a great idea a forum website only about recovery. I dont even comment or read the goodbye threads. I will never encourage or discourage ctb.

Hi I would like that too. A Recovery forum.
I think it will be a great idea a forum website only about recovery. I dont even comment or read the goodbye threads. I will never encourage or discourage ctb.

I just opened a Recovery forum .. not sure if people are interested ? Can I discreetly ask people to PM me for the link?
Hi I would like that too. A Recovery forum.
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Hi I would like that too. A Recovery forum.
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