KuriGohan&Kamehameha

KuriGohan&Kamehameha

想死不能 - 想活不能
Nov 23, 2020
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Selfishness is the crux of what drives DNA to survive and replicate. To maintain life, we seek out reward reinforcers- cues and stimuli that allow us to anticipate the retrieval of food, water, sex, and various other basal needs. In modern society, satiating those needs is often contingent upon discarding other people's wants and prioritising your own survival.

However, not everyone's physiology is the same. One may be fine tuned to have less of a response to dopamine (the main driver of reward reinforcement) simply due to a teeny polymorphism in a gene. In such cases, the individual's receptors will not respond as robustly to these stimuli.

While you can antagonise the transporters that remove neurotransmitters from the synaptic cleft, artificially increasing the amount of dopamine in the synapse, this will not do much if the individual's genetic makeup does inhibits sufficient production of dopamine in the first place.

Is that the fault of the individual? Of course not. Yet, our society is filled to the brim with sophisticated chimpanzees who can't think beyond clichés like, "They brought this on themselves. They didn't try hard enough to be happy." Even when it can be scientifically proven that your health problem has nothing to do with your "mindset" others will still act as if it's your fault for not being positive and saccharine enough.

Responses like these make it easier for someone to rationalize their disdain for the "losers." It is easier to discard someone and abandon them when you have consciously made the decision to label them as a lost cause. It is easier to cast blame on someone whose plight you don't understand, than to sit down and try to conceptualise what they are going through.

This leads back to my main point, selfishness. Rugged individualism has tainted the Western world and created a dog eat dog, competitive culture. Being totally self centered is just as bad as complete self-sacrifice for the betterment of others (all whilst ignoring your own needs). Yet, which one allows you to climb the hierarchy quicker? Which one makes you look tougher and stronger in the eyes of others?

We have this paradox in society where people tell you to reach out to others and place your trust in them, all while the social and environmental needs of humans are completely ignored in favor of low efficacy drugs and therapy-interventions that often serve to demonise the individual and make them feel like defective products rather than provide them with any tangible solutions.

There is no sense of community anywhere, only surface level, opaque falsehoods that ostracize individuals who weren't lucky enough to be born into loving families or fit into pre-defined social constructs of charisma and extroversion. If you don't have these things, it's your fault. Everything is a YOU problem.

No one wants to be seen meddling in someone's affairs, even if it could change a person's life for the better. We are told we need to love ourselves first before anyone could give a damn about us, when a person's sense of self is fundamentally shaped by their genetics and the environment they grew up in. Memories are what mould us.

No child chooses to be unloved, yet when these neglected children grow up, people tell them it's their responsibility to "address the trauma" and magically manifest confidence/experiences they've been deprived of. By adulthood, you are trying to fumble your way around the connections that have already formed in your brain.

All of this comes about because people refuse to admit there currently is no cure for ptsd, and all of the current mental health paradigms are completely failing those who have to endure chronic, incurable suffering.

Yet those who have never experienced prolonged isolation and torture will seriously believe that a scripted one hour therapy session every week will be a panacea for deeply seated scarring. This applies to any sort of illness, whether it be chronic pain, longterm injuries, ptsd, anxiety, bpd, chronic fatigue syndrome, etc etc. If this "help" isn't curing you, regardless of your problem, you aren't trying.

It all boils down to selfishness. People don't want to address the intrinsic societal issues that breed isolation, nor do they want to address the immense control DNA has over their lives, so they toss the burden to the "professionals" and wash their hands of you.

Simeltanously, suicidal people will lose all connections and often be degraded by those in their vicinity, then be told they are the selfish ones for making others grieve in their wake. I think the opposite is true here. The people who don't give a single shit about the suicidal person until they die are the selfish ones.

I find it sardonically amusing that the people who have everything are the fastest to berate those who have nothing. In my experience, it is always the people who are miraculously blessed with a stable home environment, good looks, wealth, health, and insane amounts of social connections who will blame us for our misfortune.

It's not their fault for thinking this way, after all, our perceptions are guided by past experiences. So when everything has worked out for them so far, how can we expect them to understand? Even I fell prey to this mentality a bit as a teenager, I couldn't fathom the true burden of chronic pain until it hit me like a freight train.

Yet rather than trying to remedy this, our culture has sunk further into the hole of "self-love" platitudes. A few days ago I was sitting in a hair salon getting my hair cut. In addition to me, all of the employees and patrons were women as well. A visibly upper class, attractive, married mother with kids was sitting there snickering about her disdain for "incels" and how they are pathetic virgins who throw hissy fits because they can't get laid. I am sure she also thinks they are not trying hard enough to love and improve themselves.

Even though I am a woman and obviously will never be able to fully comprehend what these men go through, I still have compassion for them. I really wanted to tell the woman she has no right to mock other people's problems when she is objectively sitting in a position of privledge, not having to work because she is married, and getting expensive hair treatments done in a salon.

Once again, a prime example of one's character being attacked for their suffering. I'm sure if her husband left her and she was struggling to find another partner, she wouldn't be laughing. This viscous cycle keeps repeating itself where I witness this sort of behavior from other people and it further dampens any hope I have left.

There are so many people out there whose lives would be brightened by having a stable presence in their day to day life. There are elderly people with no families who rot alone in care homes, with no companionship to be seen. It is pitiful and tragic. I have even been told off by the few people I do have in my life for sticking by someone or trying to help them when, "it's not my problem."

When I have lamented about my lack of family and friends to someone recently, I was word for word told if I want a family, I need to have a child, because that's what every other normal adult does. Also, I was told that no one is ever going to embrace me as a part of their family unit, so I need to get over it. All this achieved was resurfacing hurtful memories where my Foster siblings told me it didn't matter that I was leaving, because I'm not their "real sister."

To me, this mindset is absolutely appalling and proves how much people value DNA and its replication above all else. If you can't care about someone without the presence of a specific amino acid residue in their cells, then I'm sorry, but you are no better than a worm with no prefrontal cortex who can't think for itself. Everyone deserves to be loved regardless of how similar their DNA is to yours.

It is a harsh reality that biological nuclear families are prioritised and if you don't have one, you're shit out of luck, but also, your partners can be as ephemeral as they want because no one has any obligation to care about you unless they're getting some sort of pleasure out of it. Love is conditional.

The problem with people is that sociocultural influences only serve to fuel this hands off, hedonistic mindset, where of us with issues are left for the wolves, where the medical industry is elevated and diefied to God status (They must have all the answers and cures for everything that ails you!) and isolation is normalised as a punishment for not being loud and desirable enough.

You know, I would feel far better if people openly admitted to the fact that they practice social darwinism and survival of the fittest, but they don't. Platidues are plastered nearly everywhere you look, about how disabled and disadvantaged humans are valued, and we matter, yet reality begs to differ when it comes to this sugar-coated narrative.

Diversity is only celebrated when it is increasing productivity and serving as inspiration porn. People within marginalised groups who aren't glamourizised media friendly success stories are ignored and abandoned.

I have suffered my whole life from various disabilities, born with autism and now physically incapacitated in multiple ways, and there has never been anything but surface level support. The prevailing message is that I don't deserve love because I am not providing pleasure and hedonism for other people. I am boring. I am broken.

There is no system out there for connecting individuals who are truly on their own. Just individualised therapy, group therapy (where you can't even befriend the other people in the group) and home care for when you get to the absolute point of no return and can no longer physically care for yourself. Even then, this is limited to the most extreme cases where the person would likely starve to death with no intervention.

People are accustomed to the modern, artifical way of living where social connections are disposable and can be cut off at anytime. Nothing is meaningful. I have experienced it firsthand how people will talk so sweetly to you and pretend to understand, then throw you away when they can no longer have sex with you for their own selfish pleasure and use you up.

To add insult to injury, those people who can pop off to a new job in the drop of the hat, buy the finest clothes money has to offer, date nearly any one they want to pursue, dance the night away in clubs, etc will seriously tell you that you could have the same lifestyle as them if you tinkered with your personality and learned to hide your flaws.

I am tired of the selfishness. I am not allowed to ctb yet it is perfectly acceptable to treat me like garbage for wanting to exit this world. The same person who pretended to understand my problems and made false promises like taking me to meet his family at Christmas has all but ditched me. The reason for this, in his own words was, "Not for your sake, but my own, so I have the freedom of no commitments". Now this person has nothing more to say than "Wow, that sucks, you need to try harder to go outside. I'm sure you'll find new people eventually."

My legs hurt everyday, so does my back, my head, my hands, my feet. My vision is permanently distorted. I am constantly fatigued and sleep around 10 hours a day because my body physically can't stay awake. I constantly run fevers, feel like I'm freezing to death, have swollen lymph nodes, and have to watch my fingers and toes turn purple and go numb due to my poor circulation. Not only that, but I'm an autistic freak with palpable anomalies in my speech.

Yeah sure I can just hit up the club like you! What a sick joke. People can go from being supportive and offering to help you to nearly ghosting you completely as soon as they decide you aren't useful in their quest for surviving as long as possible and spreading their genes.

This is definitely a huge reason why I am going to ctb. I can't take the constant deception, selfishness, and lies from people. I wish they would just be straight up in regards to their thoughts about us "have nots" rather than playing pretend and enticing us with false pretenses.

Perhaps that makes me selfish too, to crave intimacy and connection so much. I don't want to live anymore.
 
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kurisutinabestgirl

kurisutinabestgirl

Kurisu is best girl
Oct 14, 2021
82
I think you explained one of the main reasons why the world as I like to say it is "disharmonic".
The world is cruel. People are cruel. Especially in this society, where everything is based on consumption, if something doesn't satisfy someone, they instantly throw that away, those could be people too.
This world is some kind of wicked game, with wicked players. The world itself is fundamentally built on those principles that promote this kind of "race" to be the strongest, it's like that everywhere, not just in society, but in the animal kingdom too, hell, even with fucking plants.
This world really is not worth living in, and you gave a very good explanation for it imo :)!
 
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BeansOfRequirement

BeansOfRequirement

Behind the guilt was compassion
Jan 26, 2021
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Society been real quiet since you dropped this one...
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
Sep 24, 2020
38,237
There are many problems with people, they can be very cruel and they can ruin our lives. They are capable of causing us lots of pain. That is why I try and stay away from them. Of course others are the cause of our suffering anyway as we were forced to exist without choice and the society denies euthanasia and takes away the peaceful methods and tries to force us to live. It really is a horrible world. Many people lack compassion towards others who are suffering.
 
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eleanorhere

Member
Sep 6, 2021
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You wrote this very well and everything here was so true. People are very cruel in this world. Some are definitely well off from the start, they actually have supportive and loving families yeah, while other unfortunate people don't have that and have to suffer alone and get told to go therapy yeah which doesn't even do much. There's no where to actually help people or give them proper support and like you said no groups to help people who are isolated to find others like that. I'm so sorry I know what it's like. I also have been ghosted by someone who said all these sweet things to me, after growing up in a abusive family for years, never had a loving one, have always been socially isolated, I thought I had a person I could trust for once and who cares about me, only to be left alone and abandoned, I too go through life everyday alone and in pain with no one caring, I have no where in my city to go and make friends, I don't know anyone and have had cruel comments made from selfish people who don't know what they are on about saying how it's my fault for not getting help, or trying with people who care when there is no help and people don't care, they don't understand. Even got told yesterday on a forum when I tried to vent about how suicidal I was feeling that I get life easier because I'm woman, women aren't alone. Anyone can be alone and take their life no matter who they are. it's unfair how so many have to suffer in this life. There's not really many groups no for people to make friends, it's hard to find people to trust, I literally trust no one, I just find many people just like to hurt and use others. And it's hard to find people who won't. This is why I stay alone and hope to ctb soon too. Sorry you have been through this, can definitely relate and you're right about how cruel this world is everything you said there. Thinking of you:heart:
 
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Rogue Proxy

Rogue Proxy

Enlightened
Sep 12, 2021
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Excellent points in your post!

Considering the subjects of community, individualism, and selfishness, I've pondered over whether humans are evolving towards becoming a more solitary species. If not the entire species, perhaps a solitary subspecies of humans could arise. Grated, there have, and will always be loners, introverts, and asocial individuals in every culture throughout human history. However, since these individuals don't reproduce as frequently as the average or hypersocial human, they are greatly outnumbered by the majority.
 
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deflationary

deflationary

Fussy exister. Living in the epilogue
Mar 11, 2020
529
The world is built on truly ugly foundations. Fairness is an absurdity in a universe like this. It's no place for a person with any higher hopes. Or anyone weak. It's heartbreaking when you look at it head on.

The best people can do is to try to gloss over and ignore all the unfortunate and ugly aspects of existence. I really wish it wasn't like this, though that's so impossible that it just feels silly to want anything to... just... actually... be... good. There's some part of me that just mocks me and asks, "who the fuck do you think you are to be entitled to anything but misery. What a naive and pathetic little baby you are, making demands to the universe."

There's no one to ask mercy from, no one to help, and no one to care, ultimately. Everyone is too busy fooling themselves and begging for scraps from life to even acknowledge reality. Only when you've been utterly defeated is there any reason to actually look at reality and not turn your gaze away. Simply because you might as well. There's no more illusions to maintain.

Most people are fundamentally just disgusting pigs and will never turn on life before it turns on them. Me included. If I had any more illusions to maintain, I'm sure I'd give it my best shot.
 
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fox_wannabe

fox_wannabe

Enlightened
Jul 7, 2021
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Wow, that is beautiful sum up. You write like highly intelligent and well spoken person. I rarely do see something summed up so well.
 
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LastLoveLetter

LastLoveLetter

Persephone
Mar 28, 2021
657
You hit the nail on the head here, as usual.

Survival of the fittest underpins the way the world fundamentally operates, and quite often, the concept of caring for others is touted to keep up appearances, yet consistently tossed aside like trash in practice. Cruelty is an inevitable part of existence - an observable force of nature - inescapable and undeniable. But those who were fortunate enough to avoid being sliced and diced by life's sharp edges certainly try their hardest to close their eyes and cover their ears, all while perpetuating the social pecking order, where those at the bottom through no fault of their own are cut the deepest.

Society is steeped in entrenched systemic inequalities, yet those who are disparaged and deeply disadvantaged are expected to pull themselves together and become a functional, productive member of society, and subsequently treated with derision and disdain if they can't cope. People will watch you drown in your sea of suffering without so much as offering a float to help you swim.

All while withholding the means to survive and witnessing your deterioration, others spew platitudes such as "Stay strong", "You just need to keep going", "There is always hope." People will tell you to your face that there is light at the end of the tunnel while they leave you to fumble around in the pitch black dark. The undesirable and unfortunate and unwanted members of society will be abandoned, abused and ultimately left to rot, but no-one will admit it - they are far too busy ensconced in their comfortable little bubbles to even acknowledge the inherent iniquity and injustice of this world.

I honestly feel that the automatic barrage of trite platitudes are more to comfort themselves than to in any way console us - the truth is, many refuse to look at the ugliest realities of this world in the eyes. While there are those who may earnestly believe their own tired clichés because they are lucky enough to have never had a reason to doubt them, others use them to feel like they did a good deed, so they can hurry along now, forget about us and give themselves a pat on the back.

Glorifying the corrupt and cutthroat healthcare conglomerate is another form of denial: It is easier to blame the patient than to ever accept that sometimes, nothing can be done and that there are so many ailments still beyond our comprehension.
Mental illnesses and invisible illnesses are especially invalidated and misunderstood. A person with a broken arm wouldn't be told to heal their bones through sheer force of will. They wouldn't be told to "try some supplements", "go for a walk" and "be more positive." Yet I have lost count of the number of times I have been imparted with this "advice" in relation to my plethora of physical and psychological illnesses. It's easier to shift blame than to admit the fact that we are fallible and don't have all of the answers. It's easier to fix a broken arm than a broken society.

If you have any disadvantages, whether that's to do with health, genetics, upbringing, money, race, social mobility or anything else, the responsibility seems to fall squarely and solely on the sufferer. We are expected to transcend these challenges, we are expected to perpetually engage in a system and world that was never built for people like us, we are expected to make the best of the poor hand we have been dealt, with no help.
And if you do need assistance, you have to jump through a million hoops to receive it (if anything is available at all), and it always comes at a steep cost.
It is one of the reasons why I am choosing to leave - I am not cut out for this rat race, so it makes sense to take myself out of it.

As another brilliant member once wrote here: "Life is just like a game of poker. We play the hand we were dealt. Sometimes, it's just impossible to win the game, there is no bluffing in life. The only rational move is to fold."
 
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Goodbye710

Student
Jul 12, 2020
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People are born selfish. It is through pain and misery that we develop compassion.

Everyday I'm glad I'm not one of them. They do not know what it means to be human.
 
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eternalmelancholy

eternalmelancholy

waiting for the bus
Mar 24, 2021
1,169
If you have any disadvantages, whether that's to do with health, genetics, upbringing, money, race, social mobility or anything else, the responsibility seems to fall squarely and solely on the sufferer. We are expected to transcend these challenges, we are expected to perpetually engage in a system and world that was never built for people like us, we are expected to make the best of the poor hand we have been dealt, with no help.

I think the blame ultimately falls on the parents for bringing an innocent life into this shit show. None of us had a choice of being born yet people inflict the same existential pain onto their own children to satisfy their selfish reasons.

Life is hard and we are biologically programmed for survival. Maybe it is unreasonable to expect anyone to care. Everyone has their own problems to deal with. This journey is a lonely one and in the end you only have yourself.
 
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LonelyBrazilian

LonelyBrazilian

Just a boring guy.
Oct 21, 2021
180
One of the most beautiful and true texts I've ever read.

We live in a society full of toxic positivity, where lucky people keep saying that anything is possible.
 
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LastLoveLetter

LastLoveLetter

Persephone
Mar 28, 2021
657
This journey is a lonely one and in the end you only have yourself.

It is lonely. I understand we ultimately cannot make people care. I consider my suicide to be an act of self-care. If it's unreasonable to expect care and kindness from others, then death is how I choose to give those things to myself - a final act of compassion and mercy in a life that has been palpably devoid of those things.
 
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eternalmelancholy

eternalmelancholy

waiting for the bus
Mar 24, 2021
1,169
The world is built on truly ugly foundations. Fairness is an absurdity in a universe like this. It's no place for a person with any higher hopes. Or anyone weak. It's heartbreaking when you look at it head on.


Just look at nature. It is a brutal struggle for survival. No matter how much we try to convince ourselves we are different, we are still just animals at the end of the day. Our base primal instincts drive every decision we make even if we are not consciously aware of it.

It will never change because the people with the ability to exploit others will never stop. Everything in life is about accumulating power over others. If you are not taking action you are being acted upon, even if you don't realize it.


It is lonely. I understand we ultimately cannot make people care. I consider my suicide to be an act of self-care. If it's unreasonable to expect care and kindness from others, then death is how I choose to give those things to myself - a final act of compassion and mercy in a life that has been palpably devoid of those things.

Suicide is a rational decision to spare yourself from future hardships. What is so wrong with that? Not everyone will have a good quality of life. SI is just nature's way of screwing with you one last time.
 
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LonelyBrazilian

LonelyBrazilian

Just a boring guy.
Oct 21, 2021
180
Yet rather than trying to remedy this, our culture has sunk further into the hole of "self-love" platitudes. A few days ago I was sitting in a hair salon getting my hair cut. In addition to me, all of the employees and patrons were women as well. A visibly upper class, attractive, married mother with kids was sitting there snickering about her disdain for "incels" and how they are pathetic virgins who throw hissy fits because they can't get laid. I am sure she also thinks they are not trying hard enough to love and improve themselves.

Even though I am a woman and obviously will never be able to fully comprehend what these men go through, I still have compassion for them. I really wanted to tell the woman she has no right to mock other people's problems when she is objectively sitting in a position of privledge, not having to work because she is married, and getting expensive hair treatments done in a salon.
As an involuntary celibate, this really gives me triggers. Every time I'm asked if I've kissed/have sex with a woman and I say no, they make fun of me and humiliate me. But if someone famous on the internet khs for being humiliated, these people who humiliated me are the first to make posts lamenting the death of the famous person and saying we should respect everyone.
 
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