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The Last Resort is Switzerland's newest human rights/assisted suicide organisation. As the home of the 3D-printed Sarco Capsule, The Last Resort offers a drug-free means of an elective, peaceful & dignified death. The use of the Sarco is free* to approved users. A good death is a fundamental human right.


Website here

Potentially very big development.
 
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The Last Resort is Switzerland's newest human rights/assisted suicide organisation. As the home of the 3D-printed Sarco Capsule, The Last Resort offers a drug-free means of an elective, peaceful & dignified death. The use of the Sarco is free* to approved users. A good death is a fundamental human right.


Website here

Potentially very big development.
I looked into it - they only accept applications from those over 50 that satisfy the criteria under Swiss assisted suicide laws. Younger people who are seriously physically ill MAY BE accepted… ffs. I would pay €10k donation if they would let me die there.
 
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FuneralCry

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Sounds very peaceful and ideal, wish I could die so painlessly.
 
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I looked into it - they only accept applications from those over 50 that satisfy the criteria under Swiss assisted suicide laws. Younger people who are seriously physically ill MAY BE accepted… ffs. I would pay €10k donation if they would let me die there.
That's right. Sarco is from EXIT so that was always likely.
 
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Yes disappointing. I liked the idea of flying somewhere one last time. Anyways back to either hanging or N for me whichever I secure first. Thinking this with a noose in the forest is most likely. Just not looking forward to the final moments setting it up alone in a forest at night. Will be a mental struggle but it's doable.

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I don't see why someone who is moderately handy just couldn't make their own similar device. Those giant plastic tanks that are used in agriculture come to mind. They may not be clear offering a "view", but I see no reason they wouldn't work. A little rigging with a N2 tank and you have basically the same thing.
 
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It will be an interesting development. It suggests that if you're over 50 the criteria is less (or not at all) than for the other associations in Switzerland, because no doctor is involved in getting a prescription. If you are under 50 and they require some sort of documentation of suffering, that's where it gets into a gray area that's not fully explained. A doctor still is not needed for prescription, so why do they need additional criteria met? I think it's just to avoid bad publicity, but that's just me. (Because Swiss law only requires you to be over 18). There still is the requirement to meet the "mental capacity" standard, so some sort of psychological screening will always be necessary. As for cost, there will still be substantial sums to be paid (I believe) but this wasn't addressed, because a lot of the 10,000 Swiss francs is administrative and legal requirements. Unless The LastResort is going to cover all those too. (But after spending $700,000 already on this project I doubt they have those reserves). Also buried in the news conference is the fact that the device has a person size limit of 5 ft 8" which seems a little "short"-sighted. 🤷‍♂️
 
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can someone fix me a fake id

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Also buried in the news conference is the fact that the device has a person size limit of 5 ft 8" which seems a little "short"-sighted.

5'8??? That's some oversight.
 
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It's not truly free until it's open-source hardware that anyone can make themselves.
 
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It will be an interesting development. It suggests that if you're over 50 the criteria is less (or not at all) than for the other associations in Switzerland, because no doctor is involved in getting a prescription. If you are under 50 and they require some sort of documentation of suffering, that's where it gets into a gray area that's not fully explained. A doctor still is not needed for prescription, so why do they need additional criteria met? I think it's just to avoid bad publicity, but that's just me. (Because Swiss law only requires you to be over 18). There still is the requirement to meet the "mental capacity" standard, so some sort of psychological screening will always be necessary. As for cost, there will still be substantial sums to be paid (I believe) but this wasn't addressed, because a lot of the 10,000 Swiss francs is administrative and legal requirements. Unless The LastResort is going to cover all those too. (But after spending $700,000 already on this project I doubt they have those reserves). Also buried in the news conference is the fact that the device has a person size limit of 5 ft 8" which seems a little "short"-sighted. 🤷‍♂️
I guess this is done for patients who don't want to have bad experiences ? Both IV and drinks could be bad experiences.
 
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I don't see why someone who is moderately handy just couldn't make their own similar device. Those giant plastic tanks that are used in agriculture come to mind. They may not be clear offering a "view", but I see no reason they wouldn't work. A little rigging with a N2 tank and you have basically the same thing.

It's not truly free until it's open-source hardware that anyone can make themselves.
On the website it said that 3d printer plans for the device will be published in the PPeH "in due course" whatever that means
 
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I don't see why someone who is moderately handy just couldn't make their own similar device. Those giant plastic tanks that are used in agriculture come to mind. They may not be clear offering a "view", but I see no reason they wouldn't work. A little rigging with a N2 tank and you have basically the same thing.
My version of the PPH says 3D printing plans for the Sarco are or will be published.
 
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I guess this is done for patients who don't want to have bad experiences ? Both IV and drinks could be bad experiences.
Yes, that and to minimize, if not eliminate, the need for a doctor sign-off.
My version of the PPH says 3D printing plans for the Sarco are or will be published.
The chassis is one thing, but there's a lot of electronics and other things involved in setting up the liquid nitrogen container and dispersing mechanism. It would be very expensive to make for a one-time use!
 
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I'm glad there is some movement towards allowing people to exit the world with peace and dignity. Especially those nearing the end of their lives that are in terrible physical condition.

I understand that there is restrictions to this method. Of course many people here and all over the world want to have access to something like this at a premature/young age, but I understand why that would be very difficult to accomplish due to the way our world functions and society.

I think we should be grateful that people like Philip Nitschke exist. He's done a lot for people who wish to be free, and to my knowledge spread awareness of SN and N and other relatively peaceful methods thanks to the PPH.

That was always a fear of mine, getting old and having to deal with the degradation of this human body. Not being knowledgeable of exits. Having to try and figure something out. I'm honestly so glad there are people out there who are finding ways to peacefully leave.

It's why this forum is a great comfort of mine. To feel less alone in this world.
 
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I wish this was available for me. Sweet, sweet mercy...
 
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There is a Q&A at The Last Resort. May as well ask them directly with further questions about the Sarco and how to qualify? The initial use was postponed. Media frenzy was partly to blame.
 
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There is a Q&A at The Last Resort. May as well ask them directly with further questions about the Sarco and how to qualify? The initial use was postponed. Media frenzy was partly to blame.

Yeah, the inaugural flight got grounded due to deterioration in the mental state of the participant.

https://www.bluewin.ch/en/news/inau...ule-postponed-due-to-test-person-2302710.html

Inauguration of the "Sarco" suicide capsule postponed due to test person

The announced inauguration of the Sarco suicide capsule on Swiss soil has been the subject of much discussion in the Swiss and international media.
The announced inauguration of the "Sarco" suicide capsule on Swiss soil has been the subject of much discussion in the Swiss and international media.
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The inauguration of the "Sarco" suicide capsule, originally planned for mid-July in Switzerland, has finally been postponed. The reason for this is the deterioration in the mental state of the person who had been selected for the capsule.
28.7.2024 - 19:40

"Given their situation, it is clear that this person should now receive mental health care rather than assisted suicide," explained Australian Philip Nitschke, the developer of the controversial machine, in a statement on Sunday.
 
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J&L383

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They will try again with another person, but will try to keep things quiet. But understandably, it will create news and controversy. The age limit (unless you have health issues) seems arbitrary, but it's about optics, I guess.
 
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Not a fan. Nitrogen has been trialled on a US inmate and it was horrific.
 
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Not a fan. Nitrogen has been trialled on a US inmate and it was horrific.
The US inmate was not seeking voluntary assisted suicide; quite the opposite. That kinda makes a difference. The technique (replacing air with inert gas) has been successfully used for years (via the Exit Bag) to achieve a peaceful death.
 
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The US inmate was not seeking voluntary assisted suicide; quite the opposite. That kinda makes a difference. The technique (replacing air with inert gas) has been successfully used for years (via the Exit Bag) to achieve a peaceful death.
You sure? I often read that they use helium and not nitrogen. That's why it's impossible to get pure helium but easy to get pure nitrogen.
 
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You sure? I often read that they use helium and not nitrogen. That's why it's impossible to get pure helium but easy to get pure nitrogen.
Am I sure about what??? Helium used to be the inert gas of choice until gatekeepers compelled manufactures to contaminate it with air to prevent its use in the Exit Bag. That forced people seeking voluntary death to turn to nitrogen. If you desire more information, check out the Exit International website and the Peaceful Pill Handbook.
 
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Am I sure about what??? Helium used to be the inert gas of choice until gatekeepers compelled manufactures to contaminate it with air to prevent its use in the Exit Bag. That forced people seeking voluntary death to turn to nitrogen. If you desire more information, check out the Exit International website and the Peaceful Pill Handbook.
I'd rather not, but thanks ;)
 
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sometimesoon

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I think it's a step forward, but anything like this has to move slowly to gain any type of acceptance.

But I like the idea you don't have to be sick.

While my preference is to hang out in full suspension, I have asked for an application. They indicate they are taking inquiries.

One of the things I like about it is that you can be approved or green-lighted, and then you can choose a different time to CTB. I am really curious, how they consider candidates. especially if they are not sick.

If people are interested, I will keep everyone up to date on what happens in the process.
 
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sometimesoon

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I am actively exploring this, and I can assure you, the process is remarkably straightforward.

Sarco is free, but you need to cover costs, such as body removal and cremation. They estimate that this will cost about $3000US or more, but nothing anywhere near what others charge.

The key documents that you need are an "Advance Directive (signed, witnessed and notarized by a notary public)" which is really your no-resuscitation order and medical records if you have them along with a psychological report, So essentially not a lot

There are questions from people on a simple bulleton board who claim to be healthy, who wonder if they'd qualify. The response was that the only criteria seem to be that you are over 50. You don't have to be "sick" to apply.

There are lots of questions on the application about why, etc and if your family knows etc So I am thinking they will judge your application by your commitment or if it is a long-held view that you intend to end your life

I found it interesting that you can arrive alone and CTB without anyone if you so choose.

It looks promising - and I will add things as I move down the application process

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If people are interested, I will keep everyone up to date on what happens in the process.

Thank you. I would very much appreciate you sharing your experience and perspective of the process.
 
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sometimesoon

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I read something interesting related to this: the same people who developed SARCO are working on an AI psychological assessment tool that would remove psychiatrists from the equation.

Their overall goal is to try to totally "demedicalize" the process of accompanied suicides.