Venting the exploitation of 18 yo girls and how disgusting society is

[luvpup]

Lil Tay Just Turned 18, Launched an OnlyFans, and Says She Made $1M in 3 Hours



as some of you might know, lil tay (a girl popular for being a "cringe 9 year old who flexes money on fans), recently turned 18 and allegedly made a million or more in her first few hours on OF.

i've seen her on ig reels a few times now showing that she can play piano, trying to come off as more relatable. and honestly looking back on it now, i think she's been soft launching this for a while which pisses me off. not even because of her necessarily, i get it, i really do, i understand what might lead her to do this... but because that is just how this disgusting world operates.

and people are still going to continue to deny that. they'll blame her too, even though yes, she has some responsibility, let's not act like it's all her fault. she DID make a million, and she'll probably make EVEN MORE. society rewards you when you feed into it..

money is what you need in this world. people literally say every day, "i would give anything for x amount of money." some excuse the liking 18 year olds when it's convenient with pushing blame onto other sources such as lil tay herself, (not just this but think about every other immoral thing thats just explained away) when it's someone they want to hate, they attack them but when it's someone they like, the perspective shifts

just like with the stupid fucking creep i exposed!!! everyone makes excuses for his behavior, blames me, ignores the clear predatory shit he's done. it's just another disgusting, sad example of the fact that youth, sex, and money are all that really matter. and once you run out of those things??? just fucking die!!!!!! if you can't contribute and make money, die. if you can't give your youth and beauty, die. and if you can't even be a decent prostitute or offer sex appeal then literally JUST FUCKING die.

there's no inherent value in any of us as human beings.


oh and this comment really pissed me off..

"blame the men thats a new one.." YES NGL YES!!!!! WE ARE BLAMING YOU!!!!!! why play pretend and act like this would be some different case??? people would rather say everything about her because its SO MUCH EASIER for them to blame an individual than acknowledge the FUCKED UP REASONING and system the WAY THE WORLD OPERATES that even brings people to this path in doing shit in life, because its TOO FUCKING HARD BECAUSE THEN THEY'D HAVE TO ADMIT ITS FUCKED BEYOND REPAIR AND THEY DON'T HAVE AN EASY FUCKING FIX

they'd have to acknowledge and accept that suffering is inherent and that some people will get fucked over and stuck in the hell that is this world. and why would they wanna do that? lol... fucking scum. everything is just scummy. "young garden tools" even referring to her like this publicly is so shameful. what a shame.

 

[PI3.14]

Idk what to say tbh. I basically agree with everything you said.

 

[WhatCouldHaveBeen32]

Allow me to give my thoughts. What she did was peer pressure , learned from society, from men; It sucks, there are many girls like her who instantly sell out once they are 18.

And predatory 30+ year old men and currently developing 20's men (because they are all jacking it to 18 year olds and will continue to do so even when they get to 30/40 year old) are manipulating and congratulating and giving compliments to these kids. Yes she is technically an adult by law but it doesn't change the fact that this is just disgusting.

Yes she made a mistake , and you already know that in 5 years when she realizes and actually starts crying and processing the trauma, they will call her a dumb whore.

AND YES, let's humour the argument; Maybe she is that ONE girl , who is actually manipulative, maybe she is that 0.0000000001% that started only fans at 18 and then pretends to get "traumatized" for even more attention once she ages out and the pedos.. I mean men, don't want her anymore , maybe she is that one girl who gives 0 fucks and is in it for the money , drama and attention right? And what does it matter even if she is that one girl who is a piece of shit?

MEN DO THIS TO EVERY WOMAN , EVERYONE, THEY DON'T PICK AND CHOOSE THE ACTUAL 0.00000001% piece of shit, THEY DO THIS TO EVERY SINGLE WOMAN , NO EXCEPTIONS , THEY CALL THEM WHORES MANIPULATIVE BITCHES THAT SHOULD BE RAPED and that ENJOYED IT. All of them are manipulative? all of them don't actually suffer from trauma? get the fuck out of here.

 

[luvpup]

All of them are manipulative? all of them don't actually suffer from trauma? get the fuck out of here.

thank you for saying this, i am just glad to hear people agreeing and seeing what i see. i wish i could give you a hug. this is how i feel like my life is going to pan out. i'm not sure what to do. at least i haven't made an only fans but it's only because i'm a nobody... everyone already hated me in my music career and i ended up having to quit because of creepy guys like this. i wasn't even DOING anything. i don't feel human, i'm scared to grow up because i feel like i will lose all my value. after all, the older i get who will care about me and want me? who will forgive me for my illness and who will love me for who i am? i am being "pessimistic" maybe, but is it really that easy? that simple?

and yes, in those 5 years they'll call her a dumb whore. sadly, too, they will be calling her that now. ignoring the system that raised her and how she was brought up into this life. they will ignore the fact that this is one of the more extreme cases, ignore the fact this happens to so so many girls who may not be in the lime light. it's painful. they'll reject and ignore and deny them of the right to process. people say don't worry about what others think and process your trauma on your own. but i don't think this is fair to ask of someone whose trauma has been so full of judgement from others.

it hurts
it really does
i try to tell myself it's not this way and that i will be able to be better and i don't need my youth to matter but turning 18 and getting older and seeing things like this only further confirm my worst feelings and fears. it's too much to bear... and i know i am one of the ones who have had it easier in this regard.

Yes she made a mistake , and you already know that in 5 years when she realizes and actually starts crying and processing the trauma, they will call her a dumb whore.

this hurts me too, i know what you mean. i have some friends ( all online i dont have irl friends lol..) who ive known years, these guys... theyre the kind that blame and say that sort of thing. its painful and just sad. i know i shouldnt even be seeking their approval or understanding but having known them since i was 12 its hard not to. when they practically raised me. and i wish more people would just be honest. see and understand that its not as simple as 'dumb whore' or 'depressed loser girl needs to go outside' bla bla bla.

so tiring

 

[WhatCouldHaveBeen32]

thank you for saying this, i am just glad to hear people agreeing and seeing what i see. i wish i could give you a hug. this is how i feel like my life is going to pan out. i'm not sure what to do. at least i haven't made an only fans but it's only because i'm a nobody... everyone already hated me in my music career and i ended up having to quit because of creepy guys like this. i wasn't even DOING anything. i don't feel human, i'm scared to grow up because i feel like i will lose all my value. after all, the older i get who will care about me and want me? who will forgive me for my illness and who will love me for who i am? i am being "pessimistic" maybe, but is it really that easy? that simple?

and yes, in those 5 years they'll call her a dumb whore. sadly, too, they will be calling her that now. ignoring the system that raised her and how she was brought up into this life. they will ignore the fact that this is one of the more extreme cases, ignore the fact this happens to so so many girls who may not be in the lime light. it's painful. they'll reject and ignore and deny them of the right to process. people say don't worry about what others think and process your trauma on your own. but i don't think this is fair to ask of someone whose trauma has been so full of judgement from others.

it hurts
it really does
i try to tell myself it's not this way and that i will be able to be better and i don't need my youth to matter but turning 18 and getting older and seeing things like this only further confirm my worst feelings and fears. it's too much to bear... and i know i am one of the ones who have had it easier in this regard.

this hurts me too, i know what you mean. i have some friends ( all online i dont have irl friends lol..) who ive known years, these guys... theyre the kind that blame and say that sort of thing. its painful and just sad. i know i shouldnt even be seeking their approval or understanding but having known them since i was 12 its hard not to. when they practically raised me. and i wish more people would just be honest. see and understand that its not as simple as 'dumb whore' or 'depressed loser girl needs to go outside' bla bla bla.

so tiring

Your youth only matters to people that shouldn't matter to you. You are very insightful about all of this, you don't need to give in to society, growing up doesn't mean you lose your value; again , you only lose your value to worthless men.

You are being realistic, for many , what you typed is an unfortunate reality, you love people and you loved who once you were,, that's why it makes you so angry, you want us all to be more than sex toys or objects of desire or cogs in a machine, you were taken away the hope and love through trauma, I know.

I wish I could give you a hug too, I hugged my plushie instead , voodoo hug.

 

[PI3.14]

It sucks, there are many girls like her who instantly sell out once they are 18.

I think they have been taught that their value, as women, depreciate over time. So basically, they try to use their bodies to make as much money as possible before the window close.

Also, these 18 old kids are just like grown ups in terms of being attracted to money. What will other girls in the similar age group think when they see someone like the one op talked about make a million in a matter of hours? That's a crazy amount of money in a very short period of time. Some of them will end up doing the same cus money is attractive, especially in the age of social media where you're constantly shown the life of rich people and want to have what they have.

I wish I can say it's better for sites like OF to be blocked forever, but I'm certain some women are using it as a last resort to climb out of a deep hole.

Tbh, I blame the way society is built. And just like OP said, if you don't have youth(beauty) and money, and social value then you're not valued in society. Women are valued for their beauty and men for their resources and some beauty. This is how society is, I don't think it will ever change.

 

[luvpup]

I think they have been taught that their value, as women, depreciate over time. So basically, they try to use their bodies to make as much money as possible before the window close.

Also, these 18 old kids are just like grown ups in terms of being attracted to money. What will other girls in the similar age group think when they see someone like the one op talked about make a million in a matter of hours? That's a crazy amount of money in a very short period of time. Some of them will end up doing the same cus money is attractive, especially in the age of social media where you're constantly shown the life of rich people and want to have what they have.

I wish I can say it's better for sites like OF to be blocked forever, but I'm certain some women are using it as a last resort to climb out of a deep hole.

Tbh, I blame the way society is built. And just like OP said, if you don't have youth(beauty) and money, and social value then you're not valued in society. Women are valued for their beauty and men for their resources and some beauty. This is how society is, I don't think it will ever change.

this is why i must die before i reach 25. i can't imagine being 25. i've been being made fun of for being childish and weird and stuff as a KID so i cant imagine trying to be myself when i'm older. they say you stop caring about what others think but i cannot imagine myself 'not caring'. what others think of you DOES matter.

ahh its too much. besides my youth and body i have nothing to offer really. by merit of my own laziness and disinterest in life. so i'd rather not waste space on this earth. but i still get a year or so. i get that it's mostly weird men who will stop valuing me but at the same time i feel a conflict with that since, if it's not some admiration and whatnot im receiving, its different. and people who aren't older men care way more about you fitting into what they want. for most older men it's okay if you're mentally ill or weird or a loser or whatever or helpless as long as you're young. for others that no longer is enough, and i find it hard to pull myself out and make my own value.

 

[Hellis]

Ah, lil tay. You ever look at someone and know they've been exploited by their own parents from a young age? It's sad to see.

 

[PI3.14]

this is why i must die before i reach 25. i can't imagine being 25. i've been being made fun of for being childish and weird and stuff as a KID so i cant imagine trying to be myself when i'm older. they say you stop caring about what others think but i cannot imagine myself 'not caring'. what others think of you DOES matter.

ahh its too much. besides my youth and body i have nothing to offer really. by merit of my own laziness and disinterest in life. so i'd rather not waste space on this earth. but i still get a year or so. i get that it's mostly weird men who will stop valuing me but at the same time i feel a conflict with that since, if it's not some admiration and whatnot im receiving, its different. and people who aren't older men care way more about you fitting into what they want. for most older men it's okay if you're mentally ill or weird or a loser or whatever or helpless as long as you're young. for others that no longer is enough, and i find it hard to pull myself out and make my own value.

Who ever says what others think of u doesn't matter haven't actually thought about it well.

What others think of us IS IMPORTANT. It affects us, it affect our chances in everything. Be it dating, job opportunities, or even just platonic relationships, others' opinion of us unfortunately matter.

It matter not the opinion of few assholes about us, but the opinion of society as a whole is a different thing.

Man it hurts my heart even to type this. But this is one of these things I keep hearing that are meant to make us feel good but it's totally false and opposite to what we experience in our life.

 

[luvpup]

Who ever says what others think of u doesn't matter haven't actually thought about it well.

What others think of us IS IMPORTANT. It affects us, it affect our chances in everything. Be it dating, job opportunities, or even just platonic relationships, others' opinion of us unfortunately matter.

It matter not the opinion of few assholes about us, but the opinion of society as a whole is a different thing.

Man it hurts my heart even to type this. But this is one of these things I keep hearing that are meant to make us feel good but it's totally false and opposite to what we experience in our life.

YES THANK YOU!!!! this is what i mean exactly!!!!! and even if the opinion of a 'few assholes' DIDNT matter... because its so "few"... then whats the opinion of a few people who understand matter either??? sigh.

 

[PI3.14]

then whats the opinion of a few people who understand matter either???

Totally true

 

[WhatCouldHaveBeen32]

Who ever says what others think of u doesn't matter haven't actually thought about it well.

What others think of us IS IMPORTANT. It affects us, it affect our chances in everything. Be it dating, job opportunities, or even just platonic relationships, others' opinion of us unfortunately matter.

It matter not the opinion of few assholes about us, but the opinion of society as a whole is a different thing.

Man it hurts my heart even to type this. But this is one of these things I keep hearing that are meant to make us feel good but it's totally false and opposite to what we experience in our life.

Rage at the world around us made me able to overcome this feeling for a while but in the last year or so; it appears that even rage has it's limits. As another person said in a post and I did too at some point, I hope that the ones who are healthy , who can still fight, enjoy the life they have for the sake of those who couldn't. Why specifically us, to break this cycle of shallowness? I truly do not know, but at least I won't make another person to suffer here.

 

[turnoverover]

I don't understand how payment processors and the lobbies pressuring them don't blow a fuse seeing this go down a second time with a child that's been in the public eye (danielle bregholi) given recent news

 

[Forever Sleep]

I feel dismayed at this sort of thing. I also agree with you that the blame has to largely land on the culture that promotes it- created largely by men. I've heard the arguments that it's 'natural' for men to be attracted to young, fit women because they are more likely to be fertile. I suppose that is biology doing its thing but somehow, it just sickens me. Maybe partly out of envy- because I'm not and never was that attractive. I suppose I at least wanted to be desired at one stage.

I guess that isn't exactly natural- to be disgusted by how obviously dominated by sexual needs men can be. It's maybe more that I wonder how many are like it. Is it in truth, the majority of men but that some repress it do you suppose? Or, it it more nuanced than that, with all people having varying amounts of sexual drives and preferences?

I'm quite a prude really so, I accept that some of my opinions are warped and too harsh. Overall though, I think it's so dangerous to sexualise children in the media. It's feeding desires that could develop into very dangerous behaviour.

It depresses me how basic some men are but then, I'm not sure I or women are any better. We are still taken in by good looks and wealth. Depressing that we're so shallow really.

 

[leloyon]

My sincere reaction

 

[EvisceratedJester]

From what I know, she didn't post anything inappropriate. She just posted pictures from her birthday party. It's likely that OF paid her a bunch of money or something in order to make it look like she made a shit ton of money from posting pics on her OF. It's a marketing strategy.

 

[luvpup]

From what I know, she didn't post anything inappropriate. She just posted pictures from her birthday party. It's likely that OF paid her a bunch of money or something in order to make it look like she made a shit ton of money from posting pics on her OF. It's a marketing strategy.

yeah but even if thats true, i doubt shes gonna just be posting birthday pics lol, and the pornstar shirt? and the marketing?? thats even more disgusting that theyre marketing this way too if you think about it nd exploiting her to do it. makes it no better... sadder even

 

[Dejected 55]

I'm just going to say one thing before I get into other things...

Men can be horrible. Horrible men can inflict a lot of trauma and damage on women. But there are awful women too, and if you dare say that out loud, everyone descends on you and you become one of those horrible men in their eyes too.

Also... men get ravaged by society for being deadbeat dads and not raising/supporting their kids... which must mean women are actually raising and teaching those kids, sons and daughters, so how is it that the absent man in their lives is somehow considered more responsible for a kid turning out as a bad adult than the mother? I mean, if most men are considered horrible, the women ought to do a better job of instilling morals and responsibility, right?

A lot of parents, men and women, are horrible parents. Kids can also grow up to be horrible even if they had really good parents. It's all a crapshoot really.

Now to the topic.

I was born in 1970. I was a kid watching those late-night talk shows, like Johnny Carson in the late 1970s and they would have child actors on the show... and girls... as those girls got into their mid teens is when it started... subtle hints about "when they turn 18" and then those child actors, those girls, their first appearance on talk shows after turning 18... the host would always talk about how "you're legal now" and EVERYONE knew what that meant. It was creepy as fuck!

And in many states in the US, the legal age of consent is lower than you might think... 14 or lower... and in many states girls can get married to men of any age at 12 if their parents consent. The same politicians you will hear in the US raging about human trafficking and how bad other countries are... are often the same politicians you find blocking legislation that would raise age of consent to 18 in the US across the board. There are lots of old men who want to be able to marry a 12 year old because then it is 100% legal to have sex with a kid. It's crazy and creepy as fuck!

Now, look I'm no prude. And there are lots of women I believe are not coerced into sex work. If everyone had a high standard of living and a non-sexual job to earn their money, do we really think all sex work would completely disappear? As long as there are people, "the world's oldest profession" will exist in some form.

Human trafficking needs to be stopped... people coercing/controlling women into this work needs to stop... but it can sometimes be difficult to find where that line is.

On one hand, it's easy to look at a just-turned-18 girl and think she must not want to do that, she must have been tricked or forced into it... but in our society there are a lot of things we can't do until 18, and as soon as we get there we want to do that thing. Voting... can't do that until you turn 18, and kids are very much pressured into voting as soon as they are legal. They passed laws allowing you to register a 17 year old early as long as they will turn 18 before the voting day. Campaigns run ALL the time to pressure kids into voting even if they don't understand yet what issue or person they are voting for/against.

I'm comparing apples to oranges to some extent... but the point is... pressure is everywhere, and most of us have jobs we don't want, jobs that stress us out, make us depressed, people we don't want to work with or be around, because we need money to survive.

So, yes, to me the idea of grooming and then girls turning 18 going right into some kind of sex work... it's creepy as fuck and sad to me... but every now and then there is a person who knows what she is doing and wants to make her money and get out and do other things. It's hard to blame someone for that.

Also, sounds like in this case we aren't talking about sex stuff... unless I misread something... so could still be exploitation, but not sexual exploitation. You can exploit someone for whatever talent they have, and it happens all the time... sadly.

And this made me think of those "beauty" pageants for girls <10 years old... their mothers are right there front-and-center dolling up their little girls as if they are adults with the "sexy" clothing and adult-style makeup... and it is the most creepy thing you'll ever see if you are ever so unfortunate as to see it... but it's all legal apparently, and I have to think it is fucking over those little girls' brains at that age... but it's legal... apparently... and as I said, it's mostly mothers pushing their little girls into that. Do men get off on it? Maybe... but it is the moms making their girls available... so... I always wonder why the moms in those scenarios aren't getting the same scrutiny as the definitely creepy leering men.