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SamaraDEX

Samara
Sep 6, 2024
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Just some straightforward answers would be nice, I have thought about some things but none of them work as "accidents".
 
CompressedAtoms

CompressedAtoms

Jack
Sep 20, 2024
8
No matter what, you will be assumed to have ctb by police/forensic/autopsy if theres no other leads.

Though define "accident" do you want it to look like you accidentally OD'd or smth lol??
 
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justpathetic

justpathetic

Pathetic
Sep 15, 2024
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No matter what, you will be assumed to have ctb by police/forensic/autopsy if theres no other leads.

Though define "accident" do you want it to look like you accidentally OD'd or smth lol??
Maybe car accident? But hopefully single car and no one else is hurt.
 
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schrei_nach_liebe

schrei_nach_liebe

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Jul 6, 2023
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Something that looks like an accident isn't likely to be straightforward, a lot of things that are accidental are also things that put other people at risk. If an insurance payout is part of the equation, I find it hard to imagine a scenario where it could work. If it's about what people think of you afterwards, it's hard for me to give an impartial answer because I don't believe in an afterlife.
 
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CompressedAtoms

CompressedAtoms

Jack
Sep 20, 2024
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Maybe car accident? But hopefully single car and no one else is hurt.
Car accident: AKA you just jump infront of a car?

This is kind of a gamble, the driver might just stop in tracks or you just get a broken leg or something.

Car accident: AKA you drive off a cliff or something?

Painful and slow. Probably the worst cause it gives your brain time to have instincts. Wonder why SN/N is so popular here? You're unconscious for most of it and can't doubt it (have insctincts).
 
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justpathetic

justpathetic

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Sep 15, 2024
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Car accident: AKA you just jump infront of a car?

This is kind of a gamble, the driver might just stop in tracks or you just get a broken leg or something.

Car accident: AKA you drive off a cliff or something?

Painful and slow. Probably the worst cause it gives your brain time to have instincts. Wonder why SN/N is so popular here? You're unconscious for most of it and can't doubt it (have insctincts).
There are plenty of single car fatal clients every day. Rarely have I ever heard on to be considered ctb. Usually the official report says to fast for conditions or something similar. I am operating under the assumption it's the family they don't want to know.
 
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schrei_nach_liebe

schrei_nach_liebe

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Jul 6, 2023
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There are plenty of single car fatal clients every day. Rarely have I ever heard on to be considered ctb. Usually the official report says to fast for conditions or something similar. I am operating under the assumption it's the family they don't want to know.
It's often easy to tell, or at least shed doubt on it being an accident when they look at the telemetrics after the accident. They do do that whenever they're able to, throttle positions, steering angle, traction, acceleration, yaw, pitch, roll, and many other things. Possible remedies, a car built before the early 80s, a motorcycle without fuel injection.
 
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justpathetic

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It's often easy to tell, or at least shed doubt on it being an accident when they look at the telemetrics after the accident. They do do that whenever they're able to, throttle positions, steering angle, traction, acceleration, yaw, pitch, roll, and many other things. Possible remedies, a car built before the early 80s, a motorcycle without fuel injection.
You would think that but the truth is unless you live somewhere that already has an accident reconstructionist it just a cop who took some classes. In March a young man in knew went off a bridge that wasn't even that high in a 2021 jag and died. They couldn't tell why it was ruled as an accident. I'm from a smallish state but they did bring in state reconstruction "expert". Just watch the news it happens all the time. Also frankly if it's just family they're worried about the families desire to believe its an accident will go a long way to convince them.
 
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schrei_nach_liebe

schrei_nach_liebe

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Jul 6, 2023
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You would think that but the truth is unless you live somewhere that already has an accident reconstructionist it just a cop who took some classes. In March a young man in knew went off a bridge that wasn't even that high in a 2021 jag and died. They couldn't tell why it was ruled as an accident. I'm from a smallish state but they did bring in state reconstruction "expert". Just watch the news it happens all the time. Also frankly if it's just family they're worried about the families desire to believe its an accident will go a long way to convince them.
What makes the news and what doesn't is a big thing to think about. But getting telemetry doesn't require much expertise, nor does it require a reconstruction. If it doesn't involve a court case, the information doesn't need to be vetted to the same standards.
 
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justpathetic

justpathetic

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Sep 15, 2024
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What makes the news and what doesn't is a big thing to think about. But getting telemetry doesn't require much expertise, nor does it require a reconstruction. If it doesn't involve a court case, the information doesn't need to be vetted to the same standards.
Telemetry doesn't tell them why. Ctb is a why not a how. They can tell speed and yaw from tire tracks. People die in car accidents from a bee in their car, heart issues, avoiding collision or obstruction. Those are whys. Why did it happen? Intentional or accident? Unless someone has a documented history of ctb attempts or issues and the family brings it up police won't even question unless someone else is injured.
 
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schrei_nach_liebe

schrei_nach_liebe

Experienced
Jul 6, 2023
227
Telemetry doesn't tell them why. Ctb is a why not a how. They can tell speed and yaw from tire tracks. People die in car accidents from a bee in their car, heart issues, avoiding collision or obstruction. Those are whys. Why did it happen? Intentional or accident? Unless someone has a documented history of ctb attempts or issues and the family brings it up police won't even question unless someone else is injured.
Not always true, tire tracks also don't do much to tell you what's going on, not with the driver aids that exist today
 
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SamaraDEX

Samara
Sep 6, 2024
7
I'm just looking for something that passes off as accidental. I've considered a car accident but I've heard they can tell pretty easily when something like that is suicide. I'm not on drugs so I can't use an OD excuse. I thought of drowning but I was known for my swimming abilities my entire life so that's pretty difficult to pass off. I could jump and make it look like I fell accidentally? But my friend told me about his friend who jumped off a 7th floor and survived with bad damage. The best way I can figure to die for good is to put a bullet through my head, but that would be the most obvious suicide in the world. I just need ideas.
 
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Kali_Yuga13

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Jul 11, 2024
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Opiate OD's (some will still question), hiking and falling off a mountain, drowning, lost in the woods, hypothermia. If you're a shut-in to the point that everyone close to you knows it's out of character to go out in nature than concealing your intent becomes more difficult.
 
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SamaraDEX

Samara
Sep 6, 2024
7
I've been thinking, if I go on "a trip" and just disappear, I don't have to make it look like an accident right? If I'm far enough away from home in a secluded area and no ID, I won't be discovered for a long time. I was thinking about cyanide in that scenario, but most places I can find cyanide sell online and of course I have no way of knowing if I'm being scammed that way. If anyone knows a reliable dealer that would be helpful. @Kali_Yuga13 your ideas are good, but not reliable. I may survive falling off a mountain, hypothermia, and if so I would also most likely be crippled for life. Also as I stated before most people would be suspicious if I drowned. I think at this point going off the grid and poisoning myself is the best option.
 
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LunarLight

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Apr 3, 2024
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It's nearly impossible to make a suicide look like an accident.
 
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SVEN

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I always feel that drowning in a boating/fishing accident has potential if you can get far enough from shore to be pretty sure you won't make it back.
I'd take a few sandwiches, beer & some vodka, get well out and go over the side when I had a good drink in me.
Also make sure to set up a few routine appointments for the following week(s) to make it seem I had no thought of ctb. Stuff like dental check up, having a meal with a friend or family member, that type of thing.
 
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NegevChina

NegevChina

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Sep 5, 2024
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Only reliable ways I can think of is drowning. Even if your a good swimmer there is always a doubt. If you live in a high apartment building above 10th floor you can make it look like you fell when trying to fix the window or something.
 
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opheliaoveragain

opheliaoveragain

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Jun 2, 2024
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You would think that but the truth is unless you live somewhere that already has an accident reconstructionist it just a cop who took some classes. In March a young man in knew went off a bridge that wasn't even that high in a 2021 jag and died. They couldn't tell why it was ruled as an accident. I'm from a smallish state but they did bring in state reconstruction "expert". Just watch the news it happens all the time. Also frankly if it's just family they're worried about the families desire to believe it's an accident will go a long way to convince them.
people might be surprised at what size PD's do accident reconstruction. I lived in a tiny town in high school and the county, which was small as hell too, had accident reconstruction.
 
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Hollowman

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Dec 14, 2021
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Bleeding out from a chainsaw accident. Very painful obviously.
 
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SamaraDEX

Samara
Sep 6, 2024
7
Yeah @Hollowman I don't think so...
I was thinking what about visiting a tall building or skyscraper, and "accidentally" losing balance or tripping and falling over the edge. Decent or no?
 
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Hollowman

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Yeah @Hollowman I don't think so...
I was thinking what about visiting a tall building or skyscraper, and "accidentally" losing balance or tripping and falling over the edge. Decent or no?
If you do that make sure you don't land on anybody.
 
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undecided

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Aug 25, 2023
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Car accident: AKA you just jump infront of a car?

This is kind of a gamble, the driver might just stop in tracks or you just get a broken leg or something.

Car accident: AKA you drive off a cliff or something?

Painful and slow. Probably the worst cause it gives your brain time to have instincts. Wonder why SN/N is so popular here? You're unconscious for most of it and can't doubt it (have insctincts).
Please don't suggest the involvement of someone else who could get seriously hurt!
 
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SamaraDEX

Samara
Sep 6, 2024
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I would never do something that could end up in the injury or death of an innocent party. No need to concern yourself with it @undecided :)
 
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lastwords.com

lastwords.com

Student
Mar 26, 2023
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I have my ctb plan for whenever I'm ready to ctb, my plan is this: I go to a party/rave that's located near a river/sea/lake or whatever, I will take a reasonably heavy enough dose of mdma at the rave and before I peak on the drug i will go outside (to take a breath of fresh air apparently because of how the drug affects some people) and go for a smoke near the water to calm down a bit and (apparently) fall into the water then drown ( because of how the drug works). Highly doubtful that this was a suicide attempt because I never taken any drugs that anyone i know knows about, and the fact that it's popular that other people drop drugs into drinks at raves.
 
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SamaraDEX

Samara
Sep 6, 2024
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I have my ctb plan for whenever I'm ready to ctb, my plan is this: I go to a party/rave that's located near a river/sea/lake or whatever, I will take a reasonably heavy enough dose of mdma at the rave and before I peak on the drug i will go outside (to take a breath of fresh air apparently because of how the drug affects some people) and go for a smoke near the water to calm down a bit and (apparently) fall into the water then drown ( because of how the drug works). Highly doubtful that this was a suicide attempt because I never taken any drugs that anyone i know knows about, and the fact that it's popular that other people drop drugs into drinks at raves.
That's a marvellous plan, and certainly very well thought through. My problem is that I never go to parties or go out, I'm just a chill kind of antisocial. And while drugs are probably my best shot, I kind of wanted something... more raw. Like an accident, or a bullet through my skull, or a fall from a building tens of stories high. Something more brutal, something I deserve. A closed casket funeral would be nice. A bleeding, broken, mutilated type of death. I want a death that decimates my body along with my spirit and my soul. I don't want it to feel like "oh... this is the end..." you know? I want it to feel like "finally, this is the end!" Closure. Annihilation.
 
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