Discussion That's it?...

[SoulWhisperer]

That's really it?...

We wake up at 7 to leave our house for 9h, come back, eat, sleep and repeat until we're 70? Is this what society wants us to do?

That's really it? Like... Are we even...

I don't know, if at first I wanted to CTB to avoid even the most minimal experience of this system now I'm locked in: I wasn't meant to be in this world.

I am sorry but my mental magnitude is not enough for this, I cannot fathom to wake up each and every fucking day of my pitiful, miserable existence just to slave away for 2/4 of the day and have minimal time to dedicate to literally living. All this just to have basic human necessities.

Death seems a much more welcoming embrace than this "workforce" people kept advertising. Society doesn't have regards if you are unable to keep up the pace, it just moves on regardless, and if you stay behind, well too bad.

I've reached the point where thinking about my own death seems like the most ethereally peaceful experience of life while any thoughts of eventually "joining the workforce" reduce me to cinders and suffering.

This is not rewarding at all, I won't slave in a corporate position until I am too old to physically move. How much I'd even give to have been an artistic performer in charge of my life...

What about you guys? Did you accept this? Found a workaround? Don't care? I honestly feel so depressed just at the thought of this...

 

[cemeteryismyhome]

I never accepted it. Never found a workaround. Cared until I couldn't anymore. I drag myself through it for the sake of others who currently depend on me to various, diminishing degrees. It's like being stuck hanging on a meat hook. It is very depressing.

 

[VoidButterfly]

Is there a reason you can't be an artistic performer or do something creative?

For me I couldn't deal with the corporate life either and spent a lot of years very stuck. Eventually I did find a way around it and I became a scientist and intended to live my life in academia but I found even that space is fucked up ultimately. I have now found work that I find I can live with at least though. It's not quite as free as if I had manage to turn some of my creative pursuits into a career but it's certainly not as bad as pure corporatism and it provides me a decent-ish quality of life and I'm fortunate that I don't work 40 hour weeks. I guess I just made myself specialised enough that I'm not particularly disposable so I have some freedom with things. Thr truth is though that even in this best case scenario, I struggle with this being all that my life is. I think I'd be very happy if I worked 3 days a week, and my job would absolutely let me do that but then I wouldn't be able to fund my existence. I think I could probably live with this though, if not for the rest of the world. It's not ideal, but I think I could do it.

 

[FoxSauce]

Yeah this one of the reasons I don't wanna live to be stuck in a cycle of making ends meet and just existing till you retire and die.

And if you dont follow that rhetoric you can either end up as a failure or idk-

Is just rinse and repeat.

Ofc Not every job is forever. I di believe people can work but with better Healthcare sick days ans way essential stress to pay things.

Everything is controlled by something ofc people are gonna get greedy-er with money no matter how hard the average Joe doesn't get enough sleep or good health cuz everybody can be replaced no matter how hard you work.

Theres always someone's who's gonna take your place when you go

 

[SoulWhisperer]

I never accepted it. Never found a workaround. Cared until I couldn't anymore. I drag myself through it for the sake of others who currently depend on me to various, diminishing degrees. It's like being stuck hanging on a meat hook. It is very depressing.

It is depressing indeed... I feel so sorry...

Is there a reason you can't be an artistic performer or do something creative?

For me I couldn't deal with the corporate life either and spent a lot of years very stuck. Eventually I did find a way around it and I became a scientist and intended to live my life in academia but I found even that space is fucked up ultimately. I have now found work that I find I can live with at least though. It's not quite as free as if I had manage to turn some of my creative pursuits into a career but it's certainly not as bad as pure corporatism and it provides me a decent-ish quality of life and I'm fortunate that I don't work 40 hour weeks. I guess I just made myself specialised enough that I'm not particularly disposable so I have some freedom with things. Thr truth is though that even in this best case scenario, I struggle with this being all that my life is. I think I'd be very happy if I worked 3 days a week, and my job would absolutely let me do that but then I wouldn't be able to fund my existence. I think I could probably live with this though, if not for the rest of the world. It's not ideal, but I think I could do it.

I'm useless academically, I wished to be a scientist too originally (or medic) but facing reality I don't study enough for my dreams. Why couldn't I be an artist? Because all my passions are mere mediocre hobbies and could never bloom into anything I could monetise (And I wanna note that "milking" a passion I do for love feels morally wrong to me, but so is the world tbh). I'm so crippled to doing the same basic shit I was taught that trying anything else becomes near-impossible unless it's a do-or-die type of situation. I'm a fake in anything I do, I pretend to be a professional just because of my obsession with winning, as I cannot afford to dedicate my life to something I love and seeing people effortlessly above me FLEXING ON ME, even passively. Being second, third, fourth and whatnot makes me burn inside. I wish I was actually good at shit I did but in reality I'm just the fake polymath (I wrote a poem about it).

Edit: Sorry for comically delayed response, I forgot and remembered only after someone replied.

Yeah this one of the reasons I don't wanna live to be stuck in a cycle of making ends meet and just existing till you retire and die.

And if you dont follow that rhetoric you can either end up as a failure or idk-

Is just rinse and repeat.

Ofc Not every job is forever. I di believe people can work but with better Healthcare sick days ans way essential stress to pay things.

Everything is controlled by something ofc people are gonna get greedy-er with money no matter how hard the average Joe doesn't get enough sleep or good health cuz everybody can be replaced no matter how hard you work.

Theres always someone's who's gonna take your place when you go

My father who's in the same corporate for longer than me (has a stable position as a low-tier worker) told me when I started my internship "don't forget, everyone is always replaceable " and the fact that it is true sends a shiver down my spine... The terrible world of greed... Covered by façades...

 

[darkandtwisty]

I work to pay bills. There's no enjoyment. My employers overwork me to the extreme because I am good at my job. Instead of a decent raise, I just get more work. After bills are paid and groceries/necessities restocked, there's nothing left. I'm not living. I'm surviving. Struggling. And damn, is it defeating.

 

[catfriend]

mm, this is a truth that troubled me to no end, when i first started working full-time. like, i have 40 years of this?! what a scam.

for a time i was able to disassociate my way through it, but no longer. it's untenable; i'm not designed for this.

 

[StupidCat]

Yes, that's pretty much it for the average normie. I cannot make my job my identity, I can't fit on the mold of the other many people. I'm broken from fabric, malfunctioning, built different. The moment I have to work to survive is the moment I won't survive.

 

[SmilingNoMore]

I used to be a workaholic, took a while to realise how I slaved my life away. Then I lost just about everything, became suicidal, and now nothing makes sense anymore. I'm just surviving this existence until the exit arrives.

 

[bankai]

Repetition,Repetition,most jobs are sadly like that.i read about an electrician that said that he wanted to end his life because his job was so mundane.He had a set of things he would keep on doing over and over.That kind of thing kills the soul.

I'm not too different myself. Corporate IT drone. So the only way you can compensate for all this is by having a kind of enriching life with hobbies or whatnot outside of work.

Unfortunately, that kind of thing requires money as well. So yeah. It's not easy.

Is there a reason you can't be an artistic performer or do something creative?

Unfortunately, that's something you're born with. You can't really do that sort of thing with just hard work. You need innate natural talent for that.

 

[Apathy79]

Working from home helped for me. Well more than that, it was essential. I'm a bit annoyed Covid made it mainstream tbh, now I'm less special, but it makes it easier to keep working that way. Also makes it easier to bill more hours than I actually work (shhh). So there's no commute, I can work whenever I want provided I hit the deadlines, and I work less than I get paid to work. I think despite recent pushback this is becoming and will continue to become much more common (until...)

I also think AI is going to cause an enormous spike in unemployment that will make governments rethink the current approach when the majority they are elected to serve don't have jobs. That's not as far away as people think (years, but not decades). So I think we'll soon enter a transition period in this regard anyway. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.

But yes, I agree the current situation if you have a physical workplace and long hours sucks. I would really struggle with it.