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disgusted77

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After seeing this i have moved back from my decision to use SN and back to what i had previously using suvorexant. Is it good enough to kill?
 
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After seeing this i have moved back from my decision to use SN and back to what i had previously using suvorexant. Is it good enough to kill?

Dying is all about inner sensations not outer sensations, it's all about what happens in your head, not what your dead body looks like. Also not every dead body from people that catched the bus look the same. I don't know if that looks from that dead body also came from decomposition and I don't give a damn. SN is relatively painless, don't let yourself get discouraged from some random pictures someone posted on reddit.
 
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Dying is all about inner sensations not outer sensations, it's all about what happens in your head, not what your dead body looks like. Also not every dead body from people that catched the bus look the same. I don't know if that looks from that dead body also came from decomposition and I don't give a damn. SN is relatively painless, don't let yourself get discouraged from some random pictures someone posted on reddit.
I agree with all that but in addition to it i don't want my body to change as i die.
 
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I agree with all that but in addition to it i don't want my body to change as i die.
Your body will change regardless of how you die.
 
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I agree with all that but in addition to it i don't want my body to change as i die.
Do you mean, you don't want your body to change as you die or shortly after you're dead? Are you afraid of seeing your skin turns blue while dying or being found that way? I don't think your body will only look like on those pictures when you are already dead.
 
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Smart No More

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I wouldn't want to inflict this on the family member identifying my body.

From what I read about SN I don't see it as a particularly peaceful way to go. Vomiting and nausea are bad enough but it's mode of action (as I understand it) seems like a potentially really uncomfortable way to go. I'm not sure why it's regarded alongside N so often. Maybe it's the availabilty or price. I'm not sure. I may be missing something so please don't jump on me. I'm not being ignorant. Purely sharing my view from my perspective. Feel free to correct if I'm missing something though. I'm entirely open to being wrong.
Sorry OP.... I know that's not what you're asking. I actually only heard of suvorexant for the first time just now so can't answer your question. I will say that most sleeping pills etc have a high failure rate as they're less lethal than pills that were available many years back.
 
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I wouldn't want to inflict this on thw family member identifying my body.

From what I read about SN I don't see it as a particularly peaceful way to go. Vomiting and nausea are bad enough but it's mode of action (as I understand it) seems like a potentially really uncomfortable way to go. I'm not sure why it's regarded alongside N so often. Maybe it's the availabilty or price. I'm not sure. I may be missing something so please don't jump on me. I'm not being ignorant. Purely sharing my view from my perspective. Feel free to correct if I'm missing something though. I'm entirely open to being wrong.
Sorry OP.... I know that's not what you're asking. I actually only heard of suvorexant for the first time just now so can't answer your question. I will say that most sleeping pills etc have a high failure rate as they're less lethal than pills that were available many years back.
Vomiting could possibly happen, but that's not painful, just slightly uncomfortable, it also happens when you're overly drunk. The nausea you should experience from sn isn't too horrible either.

The mode of action isn't uncomfortable at all. You'll die from hypoxia, so a lack of oxygen, but it's nothing like suffocation at all.

If you know a significantly more peaceful, reliable and accessable method, you can let me know. Not all symptoms listed have to occur and if they do, they'll only be present in a mild form.

After all it received 7 out of 10 points in regards to peacefulness in the pph book, that's perfectly fine to me. It's just a minor discomfort for most people, probably nothing worse than your headache or belly ache you experience frome time to time nonetheless. It'll end all of your suffering.

To quote Stan's guide:
"Most of the reports in this forum from members that have used this process have identified that they encountered some of these symptoms but were in no way distressed by them."
 
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Do you turn blue like that after N too? I guess it won't matter either way in the end.
 
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disgusted77

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Do you mean, you don't want your body to change as you die or shortly after you're dead? Are you afraid of seeing your skin turns blue while dying or being found that way? I don't think your body will only look like on those pictures when you are already dead.
Yes i don't want my family members getting scared looking at my dead body. I want to keep it normal, everything just no soul in it.
 
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Vomiting could possibly happen, but that's not painful, just slightly uncomfortable, it also happens when you're overly drunk. The nausea you should experience from sn isn't too horrible either.

The mode of action isn't uncomfortable at all. You'll die from hypoxia, so a lack of oxygen, but it's nothing like suffocation at all.

If you know a significantly more peaceful, reliable and accessable method, you can let me know. Not all symptoms listed have to occur and if they do, they'll only be present in a mild form.

After all it received 7 out of 10 points in regards to peacefulness in the pph book, that's perfectly fine to me. It's just a minor discomfort for most people, probably nothing worse than your headache or belly ache you experience frome time to time nonetheless. It'll end all of your suffering.

To quote Stan's guide:
"Most of the reports in this forum from members that have used this process have identified that they encountered some of these symptoms but were in no way distressed by them."
Unfortunately there aren't many easily accessible peaceful methods for ctb. I'm not claiming that SN is painful either. Just questioning how peaceful it is. I'm not knocking anyone for chosing it over any other method though. It's not about that at all. It's judt that everything I've read about it sounds quite nasty in my humble opinion. Here's a log of somebody watching somebody else ctb using SN. It indicates that the hypoxia is actually quite uncomfortable. Granted though, discomfort is relative to your current level of suffering. I can't suggest another more peaceful option at the same pricepoint and ease of aquisition. I can only say that as far as I've read, the only truly peaceful method is N and that comes with it's own complications as we know.
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/first-ever-sn-documentation.29734/
 
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oneweekleft

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Yes i don't want my family members getting scared looking at my dead body. I want to keep it normal, everything just no soul in it.
I respect that. But you could manage it, that they won't find you. I don't really know, if a family member would have to identify you, if you carry your id or pictures. They could also identify you with a dna test maybe. And I think only one person of your family had to do it and that could be the one that could take it the best. I also think, they would cover your dead body and just let them take a glimpse on your face, which doesn't have to look as bad as the one on the picture (maybe decomposition set in already).

But to your question: There is no proof that Suvorexant is reliably lethal, so I wouldn't even bother to think about it.
 
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Yes i don't want my family members getting scared looking at my dead body. I want to keep it normal, everything just no soul in it.
I think it's fair to say any dead body is going to look a bit different as the blood has stopped cerculating etc. If you were lucky enough to pass in your sleep you will look at least a bit grey/blue as a result. But I think that is quite a bit less harsh than the way many methods leave somebody. There are so many variables though. The time it takes to be found is a big one. Doesn't take long for the body to start to decompose and smell. 3 or 4 days I think. I think with ctb there's a lot to consider if wanting to lessen the impact on family etc.
 
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I think it's fair to say any dead body is going to look a bit different as the blood has stopped cerculating etc. If you were lucky enough to pass in your sleep you will look at least a bit grey/blue as a result. But I think that is quite a bit less harsh than the way many methods leave somebody. There are so many variables though. The time it takes to be found is a big one. Doesn't take long for the body to start to decompose and smell. 3 or 4 days I think. I think with ctb there's a lot to consider if wanting to lessen the impact on family etc.
So far i've seen sleeping pills are the best to me but i'm here to find another way and SN is definitely not an option. Can you help with the N? What's it all about?
 
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N is hard to get unless you can find a reliable source and are prepared to take the risk of losing the money you have to pay for it. It's not cheap and there are loads of scammers. Iit comes with a few hurdles too. You have to import it which is illegal in most countries. You also need to pay for it some way which can leave a paper trail. There are ways around it using crypto currencies but again, that involves a little reading unless you're already familiar with it. If you use the search function at the top of the page you'll find loads of posts about it. There's a thing called the mega thread. There's also a resources thread. AVOID the WIKI as the sources in there have been know to be scams.

If you do a bit of research and post a few post you'll gain access to the private message function and maybe someone will help you once they've got to know you a little. Nobody wants you to make a rash decision!

That said, be careful of anybody messaging you with sources as they are highly likely to be scams.

If you are 50+ and/or have illness you can contanct Exit and subscribe to the peaceful pill handbook. Often abbreviated to pph. But even that has some scammers contact info so you really have to do some reading.
 
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N is hard to get unless you can find a reliable source and are prepared to take the risk of losing the money you have to pay for it. It's not cheap and there are loads of scammers. Iit comes with a few hurdles too. You have to import it which is illegal in most countries. You also need to pay for it some way which can leave a paper trail. There are ways around it using crypto currencies but again, that involves a little reading unless you're already familiar with it. If you use the search function at the top of the page you'll find loads of posts about it. There's a thing called the mega thread. There's also a resources thread. AVOID the WIKI as the sources in there have been know to be scams.

If you do a bit of research and post a few post you'll gain access to the private message function and maybe someone will help you once they've got to know you a little. Nobody wants you to make a rash decision!

That said, be careful of anybody messaging you with sources as they are highly likely to be scams.

If you are 50+ and/or have illness you can contanct Exit and subscribe to the peaceful pill handbook. Often abbreviated to pph. But even that has some scammers contact info so you really have to do some reading.
Will do definitely, thank you for the help.
 
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Have deliberately avoided searching images re sn. Spoiler cover or warning wld hv been appreciated, rly insensitive. Nt looking 4 gore.
 
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A dead body is going to look like a dead body. The skin will turn blue. The skin will be mottled in areas where blood has pooled. The body will be stiff with rigor mortis. No matter how a person dies, if they are dead they will look dead. Something violent like a gun obviously causes more disfigurement.
 
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