Demian
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- Mar 25, 2024
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If suicide were allowed, seen as normal, and all people had access to more peaceful methods, do you think how many % of society would commit suicide?
I think the sameThe overall suicide rate would go down, if people had access to a peaceful method. Mainly because of the extra peace-of-mind that this would create. Therefore reducing anxiety in people who are suffering chronically. The current system makes people feel trapped and isolated. There would be more people using assisted dying, but far fewer committing risky, unassisted suicide. When you combine both, the net result would be far less people dying from suicide.
If it were legalized, trends could be observed in young people if they divulge abuse as a driver then perhaps some kind of change can happen. A child or teen should have a safe place to escape from toxic family besides the streets.
Technically speaking suicide is allowed. It's assisting in suicide, providing means, ignoring someone's suicidal behavior and encouraging/driving someone to do it that can get you in trouble. Suicide itself though, I mean, once you're dead then there's really nothing they can do to you, is there?If suicide were allowed, seen as normal, and all people had access to more peaceful methods, do you think how many % of society would commit suicide?
Exactly!Technically speaking suicide is allowed. It's assisting in suicide, providing means, ignoring someone's suicidal behavior and encouraging/driving someone to do it that can get you in trouble. Suicide itself though, I mean, once you're dead then there's really nothing they can do to you, is there?
You're right though, it's often seen as a symptom rather than someone's true intention. Luckily, there are some countries in which assisted suicide is already allowed under some circumstances. Now it's only a matter of shifting the Overton Window.
I think the rates would drop if you ask me. If people knew that it's always an option, they wouldn't feel any pressure to do it like they do now, when they get an opportunity and often act on impulse, because who knows when they'll get a better chance if any. If it was always available, then many people could think "no need to hurry, maybe it's not that bad yet". Unless they would be outnumbered by those who don't have a way of doing it now and are tired of waiting. So my final answer is "they might drop, but ultimately I have no idea".
It may unfold like with marijuana. Inroads toward recreational legalization began with medical. One also has to consider industries that would be financially impacted. Terminal illness treatment, EoL care, nursing homes, hospices. Keeping people alive in the last few years of life is an absolute cash cow. The industry may fiercely lobby if significant numbers of people elect to bypass complex and expensive end of life care.Now it's only a matter of shifting the Overton Window.
10% would be a massive die off. Assuming a US population of 300 million, 10% would be 30 million which translates the entire populations of the 10 most populated cities and then some. Numbers like that would only happen briefly during war, famine, genocide, social collapse.5-10%
Country | Estimated Annual Suicide Attempts | Estimated Annual Suicides | Population (Approx.) | % of Population (Attempts) | % of Population (Suicides) |
United States | 1,400,000 | 49,000 | 331 million | 0.422% | 0.015% |
India | 1,000,000 | 150,000 - 200,000 | 1.4 billion | 0.071% | 0.011% - 0.014% |
China | 500,000 - 600,000 | 100,000 - 120,000 | 1.4 billion | 0.036% - 0.043% | 0.007% - 0.009% |
Russia | 500,000 - 600,000 | 40,000 | 144 million | 0.347% - 0.417% | 0.028% |
Brazil | 400,000 | 13,000 | 213 million | 0.188% | 0.006% |
Canada | 400,000 | 4,000 | 39 million | 1.026% | 0.010% |
Bangladesh | 150,000 | 20,000 | 166 million | 0.090% | 0.012% |
Japan | 120,000 | 20,000 | 125 million | 0.096% | 0.016% |
Indonesia | 100,000 | 10,000 | 276 million | 0.036% | 0.004% |
South Korea | 100,000 | 13,000 | 52 million | 0.192% | 0.025% |
Germany | 100,000 | 9,000 | 83 million | 0.120% | 0.011% |
Nigeria | 216,000 | 20,000 | 216 million | 0.100% | 0.009% |
South Africa | 60,000 | 12,000 | 60 million | 0.100% | 0.020% |
Philippines | 60,000 | 3,000 | 113 million | 0.053% | 0.003% |
Pakistan | 50,000 | 6,000 | 240 million | 0.021% | 0.002% |
Mexico | 40,000 | 7,000 | 126 million | 0.032% | 0.006% |
Thailand | 30,000 | 4,000 | 70 million | 0.043% | 0.006% |
Australia | 30,000 | 3,000 | 26 million | 0.115% | 0.012% |
Italy | 30,000 | 4,000 | 60 million | 0.050% | 0.007% |
France | 80,000 | 9,000 | 65 million | 0.123% | 0.014% |
Argentina | 12,000 | 3,000 | 45 million | 0.027% | 0.007% |
Spain | 20,000 | 3,000 | 47 million | 0.043% | 0.006% |
Colombia | 8,000 | 3,000 | 51 million | 0.016% | 0.006% |
Morocco | 8,000 | 1,000 | 37 million | 0.022% | 0.003% |
Norway | 8,000 | 600 | 5 million | 0.160% | 0.012% |
Kenya | 15,000 | 3,000 | 55 million | 0.027% | 0.005% |
Uganda | 12,000 | 3,000 | 46 million | 0.026% | 0.007% |
Ethiopia | 150,000 | 20,000 | 119 million | 0.126% | 0.017% |
Finland | 15,000 | 1,000 | 5.5 million | 0.273% | 0.018% |
Belgium | 7,000 | 1,200 | 11.5 million | 0.061% | 0.010% |
Greece | 5,000 | 1,200 | 10 million | 0.050% | 0.012% |
Chile | 3,000 | 700 | 19 million | 0.016% | 0.004% |
Ireland | 4,000 | 500 | 5 million | 0.080% | 0.010% |
DR Congo | 95,000 | 10,000 | 95 million | 0.100% | 0.011% |
South Sudan | 5,000 | 500 | 10 million | 0.050% | 0.005% |
Venezuela | 5,000 | 1,000 | 33 million | 0.015% | 0.003% |
Australia | 30,000 | 3,000 | 26 million | 0.115% | 0.012% |
Thailand | 30,000 | 4,000 | 70 million | 0.043% | 0.006% |