Suicide powder

[Qbert]

First time I'm seeing SN referred to as "suicide powder" in a medical report. Interesting...

[Autointoxication with suicide powder].

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[porfin1234]

Thank you for sharing!

 

[Qdv]

First time I'm seeing SN referred to as "suicide powder" in a medical report. Interesting...

[Autointoxication with suicide powder].

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Are you able to read the full paper or just the abstract without creating any account?

 

[Qbert]

Just the abstract

 

[Carina]

Are you able to read the full paper or just the abstract without creating any account?

I thought I'd see if I could access it via a library access I had--no luck. Did find "death by fire extinguisher powder" though rofl

Technically if there's any contact info for the authors, you could email them and ask if they'd be willing to send a copy. Sometimes they do that.

 

[aramir]

this should serve as a warning to everyone to stock up before it becomes harder to get.

 

[Skyview]

More and more reports are surfacing about SN suicides , the above report is dated March 4th 2019 and I wonder if authorities will invoke a license to purchase SN .

 

[Qbert]

I wonder if authorities will invoke a license to purchase SN .

Thinking the same thing.

 

[BPD Barbie]

this should serve as a warning to everyone to stock up before it becomes harder to get.

I hope this isn't the case, but I wouldn't be surprised.

 

[sleepy dog]

First time I'm seeing SN referred to as "suicide powder" in a medical report. Interesting...

[Autointoxication with suicide powder].

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Referring to it as suicide powder is not a good thing. Not for people trying to end their suffering.

 

[Carina]

I'm just glad there aren't really announced celebrity suicides with SN--I'd bet the number of suicides would jump so high it'd blow stats out of the water for that year due to ease of obtaining, people, even if screwing up, possibly still dieing. And you know within a month there'd probably be a world-wide restriction on the sales of it.

 

[Skyview]

I'm just glad there aren't really announced celebrity suicides with SN--I'd bet the number of suicides would jump so high it'd blow stats out of the water for that year due to ease of obtaining, people, even if screwing up, possibly still dieing. And you know within a month there'd probably be a world-wide restriction on the sales of it.

If someone in power has a family member who dies using SN I guarantee laws will be passed .

 

[Carina]

If someone in power has a family member who dies using SN I guarantee laws will be passed .

That too, but really those in power are probably like "what the stuff in bacon? Bacon's good!" and not have a clue about it. At least at the moment

 

[Sensei]

Adding the word "suicide" sells more copies and gets more clicks. Really, you can add "suicide" to anything and it will kickstart the imagination: "suicide candy", "suicide party", "suicide sign language", "suicide bureaucrat", "suicide surprise", "suicide pen".

 

[Carina]

Adding the word "suicide" sells more copies and gets more clicks. Really, you can "suicide" to anything and it will kickstart the imagination: "suicide candy", "suiicide party", "suicide sign language", "suicide bureaucrat", "suicide surprise", "suicide pen".

OMG I totally want to know more about all those fake things lol

I'm drawing attention to myself laughing at the last 4

Guess that proves your point too

 

[Sensei]

OMG I totally want to know more about all those fake things lol

You know what, that could be a fun idea for a thread. (Well, fun around here at least.)

 

[Guizin239]

try scihub

 

[MsMaudlin]

I definitely think they will put some kind of restrictions on its purchase in the near future. Stock up now!

 

[cosmicpixiedust]

I definitely think they will put some kind of restrictions on its purchase in the near future. Stock up now!

I definitely agree that they will put some sort of restriction in place. I will be stocking up as soon as I get paid.

 

[TimeToBiteTheDust]

Suicide powder. I like that.

More and more reports are surfacing about SN suicides , the above report is dated March 4th 2019 and I wonder if authorities will invoke a license to purchase SN .

That's what I'm afraid of. Will it become the new N ?

 

[Brick In The Wall]

People have been worried about restrictions on this for a while now. The stuff is so readily available and widely used I don't see it happening anytime soon. However, I'm not saying it's not a good idea to stock up a bit either. The shelf life is 3 years if properly stored so don't go too overboard on the back stock.

 

[mediocre]

I definitely think they will put some kind of restrictions on its purchase in the near future. Stock up now!

I definitely agree that they will put some sort of restriction in place. I will be stocking up as soon as I get paid.

I've definitely seen a lot of listings for SN be taken down from eBay in the last 2 months.

 

[EBEN30]

People have been worried about restrictions on this for a while now. The stuff is so readily available and widely used I don't see it happening anytime soon. However, I'm not saying it's not a good idea to stock up a bit either. The shelf life is 3 years if properly stored so don't go too overboard on the back stock.

A little off topic but it always makes me chuckle hearing people refer to any substance as having a shelf life.

A bottle of past date morphine will still very likely kill you, salt remains a salt, the only thing that really matters is how it's stored.

I'd bet any money that 50 year old, well stored SN will still kill someone as much as freshly bought SN.

People have a habit here of being far to clinical and I get it, I appreciate that we don't want people to suffer or be in pain but equally I don't want SN to ever get restricted and people feel so rushed to CTB because they feel their SN is near 3 years old and may not work, that's unlikely to happen.

I hear the same said about N.

This is a poor example because we're talking about chemicals and not food but it's just the same as companies putting 'best before dates' on their products and people throwing those foods out after the 'best before date'. The food's still good and just fine to eat, it will just 'taste' better if ate before this date.

Don't get me wrong some chemicals wrongly stores, especially when moisture gets into them, can lose their effects but I've heard of people finding super old sleeping tablets that aren't on the market anymore or old bottles of morphine or other substances and taking them and they still work just as good.

Don't go throwing your SN out after 3 years people, it's it's air tight sealed and stored well you'll be just fine.

 

[Roger]

First time I'm seeing SN referred to as "suicide powder" in a medical report. Interesting...

[Autointoxication with suicide powder].

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Note that your attachment is Dutch in origin: a Dutch pro-choice group (CLW) coined the term "suicide powder" in documentation and information releases in 2017. They also called it "Mittel X."

Wozz covers this event, and reveals that the agent was, in fact, Sodium Azide rather than Sodium Nitrite.

 

[sleepy dog]

I just searched ebay. I see more listings for nitrite than I have seen in the past, not less.

 

[SleepyTime]

A little off topic but it always makes me chuckle hearing people refer to any substance as having a shelf life.

A bottle of past date morphine will still very likely kill you, salt remains a salt, the only thing that really matters is how it's stored.

I'd bet any money that 50 year old, well stored SN will still kill someone as much as freshly bought SN.

People have a habit here of being far to clinical and I get it, I appreciate that we don't want people to suffer or be in pain but equally I don't want SN to ever get restricted and people feel so rushed to CTB because they feel their SN is near 3 years old and may not work, that's unlikely to happen.

I hear the same said about N.

This is a poor example because we're talking about chemicals and not food but it's just the same as companies putting 'best before dates' on their products and people throwing those foods out after the 'best before date'. The food's still good and just fine to eat, it will just 'taste' better if ate before this date.

Don't get me wrong some chemicals wrongly stores, especially when moisture gets into them, can lose their effects but I've heard of people finding super old sleeping tablets that aren't on the market anymore or old bottles of morphine or other substances and taking them and they still work just as good.

Don't go throwing your SN out after 3 years people, it's it's air tight sealed and stored well you'll be just fine.

This is correct. I used to work at a pharmaceutical company. The expiration date is a marketing decision. Before a drug gets approved by the FDA the company needs to do stability studies. They store the drug for various periods (3 mos, 6 mos, etc) and then test if the drug is still potent. A company cannot start selling the drug until it is approved and the stability study is part of the approval process. No company is going to start off going for a long expiration date (say 5 years) because they want to start selling the drug. So they make a decision from the marketing side. You usually see 24 mos as the standard expiration date. While the company would be fine with 12 mos, the distributors won't accept it because by the time it makes it to the pharmacy it gets closer to expiration. And when people buy a drug they don't want it to expire in a couple of months. So it is a decision that is based primarily upon the selling of the drug and not from the science side.

Most drugs that are stored properly remain potent for much longer than the stated expiration date on the package. Drugs that are powder or or "dry" will last quite a long time if stored correctly. It is just that no company will spend the money extending the approved expiration date. Other drugs that are in gel caps remain strong, but over time the gel caps start to go off. (This is a problem with my stash of temazepam - still good, but the older ones start to smell.)