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TheSuicidalEccentric

The universe is wonderful.
Feb 23, 2020
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Suicide is self-defence because I am trying to kill the person that is trying to kill me.
 
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HadEnough1974

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Oh that's interesting...very interesting thought.
 
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autumnal

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Feb 4, 2020
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Oh great, now...

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Soulless_Angel

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Jul 10, 2019
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I've kinda thought about this before, could it also be classed as murder if you kill the thing killing you but you don't fight it?
 
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Astral316

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The "person" is still you. It is you who has to initiate the act of killing, not some imaginary third party... ergo, you don't need to defend against anyone.
 
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The "person" is still you. It is you who has to initiate the act of killing, not some imaginary third party... ergo, you don't need to defend against anyone.

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Cutepoison

Losing all hope was freedom
Dec 22, 2019
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Interesting thought
 
Shero

Shero

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Dec 19, 2019
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Suicide is self-defence because I am trying to kill the person that is trying to kill me.
You mean, due to mentall illness and the progression as such, you change slowly to a person that isn't the you, you've known of all your life?
It is as if you have been ill for so long that you can no longer distinguish between the chronically ill and the healthy side of your personality. In the course of time the healthy side is replaced by the sick side. A good example would be if your mind starts to eliminate the good events of your past to match your sick distorted perception. You are slowly destroying and slowly replacing your uncorrupted self.

EDIT: To break the cycle, you kill the part (that isn't actually really your part, but you perceive as such) that kills you slowly.

Sorry if I misinterpreted it.
 
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TheSuicidalEccentric

The universe is wonderful.
Feb 23, 2020
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The "person" is still you. It is you who has to initiate the act of killing, not some imaginary third party... ergo, you don't need to defend against anyone.

There never was an imaginary third party.
You mean, due to mentall illness and the progression as such, you change slowly to a person that isn't the you, you've known of all your life?
It is as if you have been ill for so long that you can no longer distinguish between the chronically ill and the healthy side of your personality. In the course of time the healthy side is replaced by the sick side. A good example would be if your mind starts to eliminate the good events of your past to match your sick distorted perception. You are slowly destroying and slowly replacing your uncorrupted self.

EDIT: To break the cycle, you kill the part (that isn't actually really your part, but you perceive as such) that kills you slowly.

Sorry if I misinterpreted it.

I guess that's one way to look at it. Lol
 
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Epsilon0

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Dec 28, 2019
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When I first fell ill, I began to think of myself as consisting of two parts: my body, which was sick and causing me problems, and my mind, which was healthy and longed to get rid of the illness.

Now, I tend to think of myself as a whole. My mind and my body are two sides of the same coin. They are equally responsible for my well-being or lack thereof.

You say that suicide is self-defence.

A more accurate description, in my case, is that I am killing myself to live.
 
Painless_end

Painless_end

Life is too difficult for me
Oct 11, 2019
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Suicide can be self defense against the world also.

If you have reasonable probability of being in extreme mental or physical pain in the future, or reason to believe that you will end up in extremely negative circumstances, then suicide can be the ultimate self defense against all such things.