Discussion Suicide is a permanent solution to a temparory problem

[Baskol1]

Is suicide really a permanent solution to a temporary problem? I mean there are surely permanent problems? Like many illnesses? Or is it true that suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem?

 

[k75]

Sometimes that is true. Especially with younger people, I think they can get impulsive and problems seem a lot more permanent than they really are. Of course, it can happen with anybody at any age, but I do think sometimes things just seem like they will last forever when they won't. And I think it's really sad when someone chooses suicide in that case, because it's like they never even had a chance.

But in other cases that's not true at all. Some problems are permanent, and they're never going to go away and they're never going to get better. There are chronic illnesses, terminal conditions, situations just never will be able to be made better, and not only that, will get worse with time.

I don't think that statement is true at all in my case. My problems are very permanent, and their effect on my quality of life makes death the better option to me. Time doesn't undo amputation, mutilation, and I'll never forget the trauma. I live under the threat of a cancer recurrence, and the life I used to have is gone forever. People tell me I just have to make a new, better life, and accept my "new normal," but that isn't what I want.

 

[Baskol1]

Sometimes that is true. Especially with younger people, I think they can get impulsive and problems seem a lot more permanent than they really are. Of course, it can happen with anybody at any age, but I do think sometimes things just seem like the last forever when they won't. And I think it's really sad when someone chooses suicide in that case, because it's like they never even had a chance.

But in other cases that's not true at all. Some problems are permanent, and they're never going to go away and they're never going to get better. There are chronic illnesses, terminal conditions, situations just never will be able to be made better, and not only that, will get worse with time.

I don't think that statement is true at all in my case. My problems are very permanent, and their effect on my quality of life makes death the better option to me. Time doesn't undo amputation, mutilation, and I'll never forget the trauma. I live under the threat of a cancer recurrence, and the life I used to have is gone forever. People tell me I just have to make a new, better life, and accept my "new normal," but that isn't what I want.

For example my autism doesnt go away. Now some people say you can live a good life despite autism, and i really doubt that. Sure there are exceptions. But most autists dont even find basic jobs.

 

[k75]

I think it's possible, but it really comes down to your quality of life. You shouldn't be forced to be miserable forever. It's all a very personal thing.

But like... breakups, failing classes, things like that. Those things feel devastating, but they aren't forever.

 

[Baskol1]

I think it's possible, but it really comes down to your quality of life. You shouldn't be forced to be miserable forever. It's all a very personal thing.

But like... breakups, failing classes, things like that. Those things feel devastating, but they aren't forever.

Things like poverty can be permanent or temporary, it depends.

 

[Lookingforabus]

Depends on your point of view, as most things do.

No one lives forever, so one could make the argument that life itself is a temporary problem, and depending on one's religious views, a problem that can be permanently solved by suicide.

And yes, there are a good many "permanent" problems, problems that will exist for the rest of a person's life. Suicide, or otherwise not being alive is a permanent solution to those "permanent" problems, as well.

 

[ihatepain]

Is suicide really a permanent solution to a temporary problem? I mean there are surely permanent problems? Like many illnesses? Or is it true that suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem?

Suicide is the *only* solution to the problem because life *itself* is the problem. Existence contains pain whereas non-existence contains no pain. It is always better to die sooner than later.

 

[k75]

The fact is: suicide is a permanent solution. The end. Doesn't matter what the problem is.

 

[Umbra]

I hate this argument. Even if it's the case where you ctb over something temporary, so what? Why is that an issue?

 

[Slate128]

Why would I want a temporary solution?

 

[RainAndSadness]

My psychiatrist said exactly this line to me a few months ago. Word for word. It's probably the number one empty plattitude in the history of mankind.

 

[Baskol1]

My psychiatrist said exactly this line to me a few months ago. Word for word. It's probably the number one empty plattitude in the history of mankind.

Its well meaning, but pretty useless.

 

[Conflicted Cat]

It's not just a solution to temporary problems, it's a solution to ALL problems.

 

[Ruffian]

Yeah, I've been told I'll need therapy the rest of my life. The outcomes for people with BPD, and bipolar are not good. These are not going to go away. I can't bank on my physical not returning either. These aren't temporary problems. Life is pain, and the only way out is death. I just woke up out of my sleep and said out loud to my bf, I'm going to kill myself. What's ahead, I don't want to face. It's a matter of constantly living with mood swings, isolation, getting better, only to relapse and get sent back into hell. I have had some periods of hope, only to be hurled back down pack into the pit of despair. @RainAndSadness is right - it's one of the world's most empty platitudes. I wish I had just stayed alone and never hooked up with my boyfriend. It tortures me to leave him alone. But he's one of those survivors. And I know he'll understand. The rest of my family, well, not so much. But they made me this way in some ways. Yeah, mental illness won't just go away. In 8 hours I'll probably be fine again, Goddamnit I hate bipolar. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. It's a prison of the mind. For the last 5 years I've generally woken up with a literal voice in my head saying I wish I was dead. I'm tired of hearing it. Not to mention the insomnia, the tinnitus, and the constant day to day fear and anxiety.

 

[ArtsyDrawer]

It depends on the problem, really.
In my case this statement is... well, potentially true. There's a chance.
A lot of young people do it because of bullying or women. I admit I once thought to be the latter.
I suppose you had to be there for the context.
Now there's the epilepsy, though. "Don't worry, you either fit (for surgery) or you don't. It's something you can't control." on the left, and the bullshit of "you control the epilepsy, you live your life, the epilepsy doesn't control you!" on the right.
I guess you really do need to be there for context.

 

[Codieb1]

It's a permanent solution to ALL problems, not just in the present, but the inevitable future as well.