Venting Suicide could never be something that is wrong in any way.

[FuneralCry]

This is the truth, that there is simply nothing wrong with suicide no matter what pro lifers and those who wish to prevent suicide say. Suicide is a personal decision that should always be respected, and under no circumstances could suicide ever be bad thing and to say such a thing is irrational. There is no justification for making suicide as difficult as possible for people, in fact doing such a thing is extreme cruelty. It's unacceptable for life to be brought here so selfishly with no straightforward way to escape from the cycle of meaningless and unnecessary suffering that is existence. A peaceful way to exit this existence should be a human right and suicide should be as easy as just deciding to be gone. None of us should have to struggle in finding ways to leave this world and we shouldn't have to stay here a second longer than we wish to.

But all of the attitudes in society about suicide being 'wrong' are centred around delusions and life valuing beliefs that place so much emphasis on something as useless as existence, completely invalidating the fact that life itself is the true problem. Suicide could never be wrong as there are no disadvantages to something so inevitable as being dead, it wouldn't make sense to see nothing as being a bad thing. To die solves all problems as it removes the true cause of all of them in the first place and I very strongly believe that when we die, we just cease to exist and that is it for us. All that suicide is, is just the refusal to delay our inevitable fate and at the end of the day if we die now or wait for other causes to remove us from this world, there really isn't that much difference, it all leads to the same destination so therefore suicide could never be wrong.

In fact suicide is something that has only ever felt right for me, it's the only thing that is appealing to me, the thought of being gone from this nightmarish world. To exist is something that is harmful and causes existing beings to suffer all for no reason. Life is the most useless concept where we only exist just to be burdened with endless problems, deteriorate and die. It makes sense wishing to escape from all of the risks involved with existing as of course we can potentially be tortured to extreme extents. Something so useless as life could never be worth it in any way, and existing is the thing that feels wrong instead rather than the decision to die. The thought of being permanently at rest and never having to endure another day here is the only thing that comforts me.

 

[myownpetvirus]

I disagree that that there is nothing wrong with suicide. I just think it is lesser of two evils for many
Correction: for some

 

[WhiteRabbit]

I think kids committing suicide is pretty tragic. I'm not sure if they really grasp the finality of death at that age. There was a 12 year old boy in my city who hanged himself because a bad grade. I don't think it's irrational to say that suicide is not the right choice in those types of situations.

 

[yive]

treating people/kids as slaves - that's what's really wrong in this world. once you get here, you're trapped and enslaved. you cannot live without a struggle, you cannot even die without a struggle. no freedom at all. life is never about freedom

 

[AnonymousS]

There are plenty of ways it can be wrong, not everyone is completely nihilistic as yourself. You are entiitled to your opinion but that's all you push on here isn't it. Your way of viewing the world is right, and everyone that disagree must surely be a bully according to some. Do you ever think about what you post ? What about the kids who perish, because they're too young to understand the finality of it, and may have gotten better to live fulfilling lives. It's completely right for some, but to suggest what you have said is similar to what a dictator what comment. If you feel so vehemently against any form of existence why are you still here ?

I think kids committing suicide is pretty tragic. I'm not sure if they really grasp the finality of death at that age. There was a 12 year old boy in my city who hanged himself because a bad grade. I don't think it's irrational to say that suicide is not the right choice in those types of situations.

Exactly, a viewpoint such as above is completely irrational and toxic.

 

[Suicidebydeath]

I disagree that that there is nothing wrong with suicide. I just think it is lesser of two evils for many
Correction: for some

Being denied a dignified and peaceful suicide isn't right.

There are plenty of ways it can be wrong, not everyone is completely nihilistic as yourself. You are entiitled to your opinion but that's all you push on here isn't it. Your way of viewing the world is right, and everyone that disagree must surely be a bully according to some. Do you ever think about what you post ? What about the kids who perish, because they're too young to understand the finality of it, and may have gotten better to live fulfilling lives. It's completely right for some, but to suggest what you have said is similar to what a dictator what comment. If you feel so vehemently against any form of existence why are you still here ?

Exactly, a viewpoint such as above is completely irrational and toxic.

Yeah because this is not toxic af and putting words in people's mouth AT ALL.

Literally nobody: ...
You: not everyone is completely nihilistic as yourself. You are entiitled to your opinion but that's all you push on here isn't it. Your way of viewing the world is right, and everyone that disagree must surely be a bully according to some. Do you ever think about what you post ? What about the kids who perish, because they're too young to understand the finality of it, and may have gotten better to live fulfilling lives. It's completely right for some, but to suggest what you have said is similar to what a dictator what comment. If you feel so vehemently against any form of existence why are you still here ?
Exactly, a viewpoint such as above is completely irrational and toxic.

Zero mention of kids, zero mention of bullying/disagreement. Suddenly calling them a dictator, and then subtle dig asking why they haven't ctb yet. And ofc, White Rabbit likes this comment because they aren't toxic and biased with hate towards OP AT ALL. Oh and nice strawman btw.

Seriously if the moderators do not see what is wrong with this I give up. (spoiler just in case people aren't catching on: AT ALL = sarcasm) ~ somebody has to make a point.

 

[FuneralCry]

There are plenty of ways it can be wrong, not everyone is completely nihilistic as yourself. You are entiitled to your opinion but that's all you push on here isn't it. Your way of viewing the world is right, and everyone that disagree must surely be a bully according to some. Do you ever think about what you post ? What about the kids who perish, because they're too young to understand the finality of it, and may have gotten better to live fulfilling lives. It's completely right for some, but to suggest what you have said is similar to what a dictator what comment. If you feel so vehemently against any form of existence why are you still here ?

Exactly, a viewpoint such as above is completely irrational and toxic.

Believing that suicide is a personal decision and that nobody should be forced to stay here isn't 'nihilism' and pushing a worldview, it's respecting a basic human right. I actually think the toxic thing instead would be wanting to force others to suffer when they wish to leave. The truth is that nobody is obligated to exist and nobody should have to stay here a second longer than they wish to. It's a pro choice viewpoint and there's nothing controversial about any of this.

If people see suicide as being wrong for themselves and they want to exist then that is fine for them but that doesn't mean that they have any right to force their beliefs onto others. I think that non existence is always preferable but other people can suffer all that they want.

And I actually really envy and admire the young kids who managed to ctb as I wish that I died at that age. I hate the fact how I've managed to stay here for 22 years, and the difficulties, complications and risks involved in suicide is the only reason as to why I still exist. Suicide is certainly not straightforward after all, as we do live in this pro suffering society that denies us access to reliable methods.

 

[WhiteRabbit]

White Rabbit likes this comment because they aren't toxic and biased with hate towards OP AT ALL.

There is no need to bring me into this. My comment was respectful disagreement.

 

[AnonymousS]

Believing that suicide is a personal decision and that nobody should be forced to stay here isn't 'nihilism' and pushing a worldview, it's respecting a basic human right. I actually think the toxic thing instead would be wanting to force others to suffer when they wish to leave. The truth is that nobody is obligated to exist and nobody should have to stay here a second longer than they wish to. It's a pro choice viewpoint and there's nothing controversial about any of this.

If people see suicide as being wrong for themselves and they want to exist then that is fine for them but that doesn't mean that they have any right to force their beliefs onto others. I think that non existence is always preferable but other people can suffer all that they want.

And I actually really envy and admire the young kids who managed to ctb as I wish that I died at that age. I hate the fact how I've managed to stay here for 22 years, and the difficulties, complications and risks involved in suicide is the only reason as to why I still exist. Suicide is certainly not straightforward after all, as we do live in this pro suffering society that denies us access to reliable methods.

I am not going to argue with you, you're never wrong. Just reading your reply to the poor guy who saved his wife convinced me that you're a pretty nasty human being. I could never say what you said to another human being in a time that they were both in so much pain. Please do not reply, i refuse to listen to your poison.

Being denied a dignified and peaceful suicide isn't right.

Yeah because this is not toxic af and putting words in people's mouth AT ALL.

Literally nobody: ...
You: not everyone is completely nihilistic as yourself. You are entiitled to your opinion but that's all you push on here isn't it. Your way of viewing the world is right, and everyone that disagree must surely be a bully according to some. Do you ever think about what you post ? What about the kids who perish, because they're too young to understand the finality of it, and may have gotten better to live fulfilling lives. It's completely right for some, but to suggest what you have said is similar to what a dictator what comment. If you feel so vehemently against any form of existence why are you still here ?
Exactly, a viewpoint such as above is completely irrational and toxic.

Zero mention of kids, zero mention of bullying/disagreement. Suddenly calling them a dictator, and then subtle dig asking why they haven't ctb yet. And ofc, White Rabbit likes this comment because they aren't toxic and biased with hate towards OP AT ALL. Oh and nice strawman btw.

Seriously if the moderators do not see what is wrong with this I give up. (spoiler just in case people aren't catching on: AT ALL = sarcasm) ~ somebody has to make a point.

Being denied a dignified end to ones life is not right, however to say that suicide can NEVER be wrong is totally immature, and an extremely narrow minded. Some people look back and are grateful they survived, i may not be one of them but it doesn't give me the right to say ALL suicide is ok. I really don't care if you feel my reply is toxic, you seem to have an affinity with someone who needs constant attention. With any luck i'll be gone soon, and you can still bicker amongst yourselves.

 

[Suicidebydeath]

Believing that suicide is a personal decision and that nobody should be forced to stay here isn't 'nihilism' and pushing a worldview, it's respecting a basic human right. I actually think the toxic thing instead would be wanting to force others to suffer when they wish to leave. The truth is that nobody is obligated to exist and nobody should have to stay here a second longer than they wish to. It's a pro choice viewpoint and there's nothing controversial about any of this.

If people see suicide as being wrong for themselves and they want to exist then that is fine for them but that doesn't mean that they have any right to force their beliefs onto others. I think that non existence is always preferable but other people can suffer all that they want.

A lot of people would agree with you on that being denied peaceful, dignified suicide is not good, and that forcing their belief that suicide is always wrong is not helpful for everyone.

However I mean this with the best of intentions, I think you should consider taking a break from the forum FC, really. You're exhibiting a few symptoms of PTSD. I've already mentioned this higher up but I probably didn't reinforce that strongly enough. For whatever reason, the forum is not a safe space to post right now. People are getting away with murder, essentially.

I also do not agree that a harasser should be allowed to start interacting with their victim again just because a period of time has passed. That should never be okay. Since bullying seems to be getting a pass, anti-bullying is being censored, and harassers are getting a second pass at victims, I do not think the forum is safe for either of us.

Laugh all you want, "anonymous" you're really toxic. Imagine thinking its ok to ask why someone hasn't ctb yet? And WhiteRabbit is ok with that too. That is really sick, both of you.

 

[BeautifulMosaics]

There is no need to bring me into this. My comment was respectful disagreement.

Just put them on ignore. Their tone is very often combative and angry. I've actually been drafting a post about the intolerance of differing views by a vocal sect on here.

 

[Suicidebydeath]

@RainAndSadness

It's really not ok and is never acceptable. I do not know why you trolls keep pushing that. Asking the same person over and over for months "why haven't you killed yourself yet?", "why are you still here?", "why haven't you "progressed"". It's really sick. If you disagree and think that's ok, you're sick. That's all there is to it.

Just put them on ignore. Their tone is very often combative and angry. I've actually been drafting a post about the intolerance of differing views by a vocal sect on here.

Yes because people have been really tolerant of FC and similar people's views /s

There is no need to bring me into this. My comment was respectful disagreement.

And you deny being biased towards the OP despite constantly making lies about them, such as your "16000 divisive posts" in another thread. When everybody that knows anything what clique you are a part of.

In general, she is saying suicidal people are treated badly and that is the reality. That is 100.0% true. I'll paraphrase but essentially she has also said that things would be different if insensitive, judgemental people ended up in the same situation as her and others, then they would gain understanding and not be so judgemental. Finally she says that suicide is a personal decision. When people interfere and take away the decision for ctb as a collective, as if suicide is inherently always the wrong decision, thats infringing on our autonomy.

 

[AnonymousS]

@RainAndSadness

It's really not ok and is never acceptable. I do not know why you trolls keep pushing that. Asking the same person over and over for months "why haven't you killed yourself yet?", "why are you still here?", "why haven't you "progressed"". It's really sick. If you disagree and think that's ok, you're sick. That's all there is to it.

Yes because people have been really tolerant of FC and similar people's views /s

You need to look at yourself in the mirror, i have never once made a toxic comment here. To call me a bully is utterly laughable, it doesn't matter because just reading a few posts reveals yet again immaturity. I have to assume your very young, because otherwise i find it quite dsiturbing. Imade one comment-no more-regarding someone who may or may not have attempted to take their own life. That was asked because of months of constant nihilistic comments, you may think this is wrong. Fine make a complaint, the world is not just black and white. I have suffered for many, many years and i refuse to let some small minded member try and pigeon hole me into being "combative", or a "bully" .

 

[FuneralCry]

However I mean this with the best of intentions, I think you should consider taking a break from the forum FC, really. You're exhibiting a few symptoms of PTSD. I've already mentioned this higher up but I probably didn't reinforce that strongly enough. For whatever reason, the forum is not a safe space to post right now. People are getting away with murder, essentially

I actually don't really care what they say as I know that my post is perfectly valid. If people are blinded by their pro suffering views then that is their problem, they are certainly embarassing themselves when they post these ridiculous comments. Like it confuses me why people are even on the site in the first place when they are against the right to die, I wasn't even saying in my post that everyone must die, I was saying that suicide is a personal choice. But yes, this forum was never a safe space and that's just the way that things are. Anyway, thank you for being so kind unlike others.