RickyIsSad
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- Oct 11, 2024
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Hello all,
I am a Christian , as are many suicidal people I have met, some say that is what stops them from achieving voluntary freedom, however, I would like to elaborate on why I don't fear death as a Christian , even death by suicide.
Firstly, it can be argued that Christ Committed suicide. Jesus knew of his "death" and suffering on earth, and that the Father (God) sent Jesus (the son) to die on earth. Jesus said, "I and the Father are one" (John 10:30) and "The Father and I are one" (Matthew 10:40). The New Testament equates Jesus with the creator of the universe (John 1:3).
And of course, God sent Jesus, the perfect lamb, to sacrifice for the sins of humanity.
John 3:16 in the Bible describes God's love for the world and His plan to save humanity through the sacrifice of Jesus Christ
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life"
So God sent Jesus (Himself) to earth to die, and had knowledge of his death both as the Father and as the Son.
Jesus knew that God (himself) was going to ultimately sacrifice him and that Jesus would in a way be killed by God as part of Gods plan, and therefore would kill himself, since God and Jesus are one. Matthew 17:22–23 reads as following "He said to them, "The Son of Man is going to be betrayed into the hands of men. They will kill him, and after three days he will rise." But they did not understand what he meant and were afraid to ask him about it."
Matthew 20:17–19 specifically mentions his death
"Now as Jesus was going up to Jerusalem, he took the twelve disciples aside and said to them, "We are going up to Jerusalem, and the Son of Man will be betrayed to the chief priests and the teachers of the law. They will condemn him to death and will turn him over to the Gentiles to be mocked and flogged and crucified. On the third day he will be raised to life!"
Luke 9:21-22: And He strictly warned and commanded them to tell this to no one, saying, "The Son of Man must suffer many things, and be rejected by the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised the third day."
So Jesus knew of his death, and was God. Jesus in a way, and yes, God in a way, committed suicide. I would definitely describe knowing of an event that will kill you and not stopping it (when you are able to) as a form of suicide. Suicide is the act of intentionally causing one's own death.
Secondly, as a Christian, I take comfort in the fact that before Jesus committed suicide , he too, had doubts, anxiety, and fear Jesus experienced fear in the Garden of Gethsemane before his death and on the cross as well in The Gospel of John
Jesus says, "Now is my soul troubled. And what shall I say? 'Father, save me from this hour'? But for this purpose I have come to this hour" on the cross as well Jesus's last words before he died were, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"
Suicide of notable persons in the Bible that are not Jesus
Samson, a Judge and hero in the Bible committed suicide, by praying to got to allow an event to happen that would kill himself and his enemies.
"And Samson said, Let me die with the Philistines. And he bowed with all his might; and the house fell...upon all the people that were therein (Judges 16:30)."
the Bible does not specifically condemn it as worse than any other sin, or even say suicide specifically is a sin at all. A believer who commits suicide will not lose their salvation.
Going off the idea suicide is a sin. (Murder)
suicide is not the unpardonable sin.
Romans 6:23 ESV says "For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord"
The Bible mentions 7 cases of suicide Most of the suicides in these biblical accounts took place in the context of war, during which the individuals were already immersed in the immediate context of death. We also see fear or shame as a significant factor in the accounts of self-killing. Correspondingly, there is evidence of a low self-image in some instances, as well as guilt in others. This highlights how an individual's mental health state can impact the decision to take one's own life. All incidents take place in the context of a highly emotional state of mind.
Revelation 21:4 ESV says "He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away."
I feel that after I die , for will
Ultimately, I believe that God will accept me, and embrace me when I die; because I am his child, and he knows my heart. My entire life on earth has been a struggle, spent suffering and being afraid. He knows I'm tired, he knows I need him to take me away from this place.
"You keep track of all my sorrows. You have collected all my tears in your bottle. You have recorded each one in your book" (Psalm 56:8) God keeps a record of human pain and suffering. God has already payed the price to forgive my sins, he knows my suffering, and I know when I die I will be with him in heaven, and I won't have to worry anymore. Even if the end is painful. I'm ready to die and be with God
I am a Christian , as are many suicidal people I have met, some say that is what stops them from achieving voluntary freedom, however, I would like to elaborate on why I don't fear death as a Christian , even death by suicide.
Firstly, it can be argued that Christ Committed suicide. Jesus knew of his "death" and suffering on earth, and that the Father (God) sent Jesus (the son) to die on earth. Jesus said, "I and the Father are one" (John 10:30) and "The Father and I are one" (Matthew 10:40). The New Testament equates Jesus with the creator of the universe (John 1:3).
And of course, God sent Jesus, the perfect lamb, to sacrifice for the sins of humanity.
John 3:16 in the Bible describes God's love for the world and His plan to save humanity through the sacrifice of Jesus Christ
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life"
So God sent Jesus (Himself) to earth to die, and had knowledge of his death both as the Father and as the Son.
Jesus knew that God (himself) was going to ultimately sacrifice him and that Jesus would in a way be killed by God as part of Gods plan, and therefore would kill himself, since God and Jesus are one. Matthew 17:22–23 reads as following "He said to them, "The Son of Man is going to be betrayed into the hands of men. They will kill him, and after three days he will rise." But they did not understand what he meant and were afraid to ask him about it."
Matthew 20:17–19 specifically mentions his death
"Now as Jesus was going up to Jerusalem, he took the twelve disciples aside and said to them, "We are going up to Jerusalem, and the Son of Man will be betrayed to the chief priests and the teachers of the law. They will condemn him to death and will turn him over to the Gentiles to be mocked and flogged and crucified. On the third day he will be raised to life!"
Luke 9:21-22: And He strictly warned and commanded them to tell this to no one, saying, "The Son of Man must suffer many things, and be rejected by the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised the third day."
So Jesus knew of his death, and was God. Jesus in a way, and yes, God in a way, committed suicide. I would definitely describe knowing of an event that will kill you and not stopping it (when you are able to) as a form of suicide. Suicide is the act of intentionally causing one's own death.
Secondly, as a Christian, I take comfort in the fact that before Jesus committed suicide , he too, had doubts, anxiety, and fear Jesus experienced fear in the Garden of Gethsemane before his death and on the cross as well in The Gospel of John
Jesus says, "Now is my soul troubled. And what shall I say? 'Father, save me from this hour'? But for this purpose I have come to this hour" on the cross as well Jesus's last words before he died were, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"
Suicide of notable persons in the Bible that are not Jesus
Samson, a Judge and hero in the Bible committed suicide, by praying to got to allow an event to happen that would kill himself and his enemies.
"And Samson said, Let me die with the Philistines. And he bowed with all his might; and the house fell...upon all the people that were therein (Judges 16:30)."
the Bible does not specifically condemn it as worse than any other sin, or even say suicide specifically is a sin at all. A believer who commits suicide will not lose their salvation.
Going off the idea suicide is a sin. (Murder)
suicide is not the unpardonable sin.
Romans 6:23 ESV says "For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord"
The Bible mentions 7 cases of suicide Most of the suicides in these biblical accounts took place in the context of war, during which the individuals were already immersed in the immediate context of death. We also see fear or shame as a significant factor in the accounts of self-killing. Correspondingly, there is evidence of a low self-image in some instances, as well as guilt in others. This highlights how an individual's mental health state can impact the decision to take one's own life. All incidents take place in the context of a highly emotional state of mind.
Revelation 21:4 ESV says "He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away."
I feel that after I die , for will
Ultimately, I believe that God will accept me, and embrace me when I die; because I am his child, and he knows my heart. My entire life on earth has been a struggle, spent suffering and being afraid. He knows I'm tired, he knows I need him to take me away from this place.
"You keep track of all my sorrows. You have collected all my tears in your bottle. You have recorded each one in your book" (Psalm 56:8) God keeps a record of human pain and suffering. God has already payed the price to forgive my sins, he knows my suffering, and I know when I die I will be with him in heaven, and I won't have to worry anymore. Even if the end is painful. I'm ready to die and be with God
