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Suicidal historical figures
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Are there any historical figures you believe might have been suicidal? Althusser is one interesting fellow who I believe probably was. Along the South Korean leader and Deleuze. These types I think have always been rare.
What exactly do you define as historical figure? Cause by normal definition, Van Gogh literally shot himself so there's one off the top of my head. I'm sure there were a lot that straight up killed themselves. Most old literature authors too probably, judging by their work alone. You can't look me in the eye and convince me that Dostoevsky wasn't thinking about suicide a lot. Didn't Hitler kill himself too? Even if it was a shorter moment, he still decided he was gonna die by his own hand and went through with it. He was suicidal in his last moments at the very least.
What exactly do you define as historical figure? Cause by normal definition, Van Gogh literally shot himself so there's one off the top of my head. I'm sure there were a lot that straight up killed themselves. Most old literature authors too probably, judging by their work alone. You can't look me in the eye and convince me that Dostoevsky wasn't thinking about suicide a lot. Didn't Hitler kill himself too? Even if it was a shorter moment, he still decided he was gonna die by his own hand and went through with it. He was suicidal in his last moments at the very least.
Actually, Vincent DIDN'T shoot himself, thats a popcultural LIE that was popularized by his "friend" Emile Bernard
Vincent was killed, by accident, by one of the local kids
Are there any historical figures you believe might have been suicidal? Althusser is one interesting fellow who I believe probably was. Along the South Korean leader and Deleuze. These types I think have always been rare.
What exactly do you define as historical figure? Cause by normal definition, Van Gogh literally shot himself so there's one off the top of my head. I'm sure there were a lot that straight up killed themselves. Most old literature authors too probably, judging by their work alone. You can't look me in the eye and convince me that Dostoevsky wasn't thinking about suicide a lot. Didn't Hitler kill himself too? Even if it was a shorter moment, he still decided he was gonna die by his own hand and went through with it. He was suicidal in his last moments at the very least.
Dostoevsky is actually quite life affirming, he was a slavophile that epitomised obedience to God. I believe he wrote somewhere, through one of his fictional characters, that if he were on just a square bit of ground with an abyss beneath him, he would never jump. I reject slavophilia, serfdom, and the necrotic Christianity that Dostoevsky espoused and I can easily imagine a state of mastery over one's own life and death, not that I've attained this state of mastery, where such a jump into Nothingness can be performed after having shed such a superstitious devotion to life.
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