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I once had a debate with someone with extreme right-wing ideas. He is a lot of into statistics. When we debated politics I ripped him a new asshole. On statistics vice versa.

He follows weird pseudoscientists which emphasize that ethics must not matter in science. He (and the movement he belongs to questions subject matter experts/specialists and argue in favor of geniuses to solve all problems. He called them turbo autitsts with extremely high IQs.
He is also a fan of Christopher Lanagan.

Christopher Michael Langan (born March 25, 1952) is an American horse rancher and former bar bouncer, known for scoring highly on an IQ test that gained him entry to a high IQ society, and for being formerly listed in the Guinness Book of Records high IQ section under the pseudonym of Eric Hart, alongside Marilyn vos Savant and Keith Raniere. The record was discontinued in 1990, as high IQs are considered too unreliable to document as world records. However, Langan then became a biographical subject in Malcolm Gladwell's book, Outliers: The Story of Success (2008), in which the journalist sought to understand why Langan's high IQ had not led to greater success in life. The book compared him with Robert Oppenheimer, and focused on their respective environments.

Langan has spent many years working on a hypothesis that reality is a self simulation. He calls the theory the Cognitive-Theoretic Model of the Universe (CTMU). The thesis is self published and Langan has no academic qualifications, having twice dropped out of college. He has been interviewed and has self published his views on various matters, including his belief in eugenics to prevent genetic degradation in a technological world, opposition to inter-racial relationships, the 9/11 Truther movement and other conspiracy theories that have gained him a following amongst the alt-right.

I did not know how to introduce this topic in a good way and I asked chatGPT for an essay. I think especially the part of work at NASA is very insightful. A combination of both is needed.

Title: Specialists vs. High-IQ Generalists: Navigating Truth and Problem-Solving

Introduction
In an increasingly complex and interconnected world, society faces a fundamental question: Should we rely more on specialists—experts deeply knowledgeable in specific domains—or on generalists with extremely high IQs, capable of applying broad, adaptable reasoning across fields? Both approaches have distinct advantages, yet the path to truth and effective problem-solving often depends on the nature of the challenge at hand.

The Case for Specialists
Specialists offer unparalleled depth of knowledge within their areas of expertise. Years of focused study and practice equip them to understand intricate details that may elude outsiders. This deep domain knowledge is particularly crucial in highly technical fields like medicine, engineering, or physics, where minor errors can have catastrophic consequences.

For example, during the COVID-19 pandemic, epidemiologists and virologists played critical roles in understanding the virus, creating vaccines, and informing public health strategies. The precision of experts often determines success when problems demand nuanced, evidence-based solutions. Specialists also contribute to innovation by pushing the boundaries of what is known within their fields, driving technological and scientific advancements.

However, critics argue that specialists can suffer from "tunnel vision," failing to see the bigger picture or how their expertise integrates with other disciplines. This limitation highlights a potential gap that generalists might bridge.

The Case for High-IQ Generalists
Generalists with extremely high IQs possess the cognitive agility to draw connections across diverse domains. They thrive in interdisciplinary contexts, approaching problems with flexibility and creativity. By synthesizing insights from various fields, generalists can uncover solutions that specialists might overlook.

For instance, polymaths like Leonardo da Vinci exemplify the power of generalists. His achievements in art, anatomy, and engineering were possible because of his ability to think beyond silos, applying knowledge across disciplines. In a world where many of the biggest challenges—like climate change or artificial intelligence ethics—are multifaceted, high-IQ generalists can offer a holistic perspective and guide collaboration among specialists.

Yet, a reliance on generalists is not without risks. Even those with exceptional intelligence may lack the depth needed to grasp highly specialized topics. Without sufficient expertise, their conclusions may rest on assumptions rather than informed evidence, undermining their capacity to solve problems effectively.

Finding the Right Balance
The truth lies not in choosing one over the other, but in understanding when to leverage each approach. Complex, well-defined problems requiring precision are best suited for specialists, while ambiguous, interdisciplinary challenges benefit from the broad thinking of generalists.

Consider how space exploration has succeeded: NASA combines deep expertise from engineers, physicists, and biologists with generalist leadership capable of managing diverse teams and integrating knowledge across fields. Similarly, high-IQ generalists can act as "connectors," guiding specialists toward shared goals while ensuring a comprehensive understanding of the broader context.

Conclusion
Both specialists and high-IQ generalists are indispensable in the pursuit of truth and effective problem-solving. Specialists provide the depth necessary to navigate complexities within defined fields, while generalists offer the breadth and adaptability to address interdisciplinary challenges. Instead of viewing them as competing approaches, society must embrace their complementary strengths to tackle the problems of today and tomorrow. By fostering collaboration between the two, we maximize our ability to uncover truth and create innovative solutions.


This essay outlines the strengths of both groups and argues for a balanced, collaborative approach.

What do you think (@DarkRange55 )

I think the smartest person I ever met (a physics professor in the field of quantum physics) was rather a supporter of the spcecialist approach.
 
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When we debated politics I ripped him a new asshole.
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derpyderpins

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He called Trump too leftwing. He thinks Trump is a leftwinger. And every single country is leftwing that currently exists. He believes in eugenics.
Once you're in the realm of left v. right you've both lost because it's a silly system of designation and putting someone on a linear scale accomplishes nothing. A 4-way compass is a little better, but not perfect. My question is always: "where does near-complete anarchy fall on your scale?" If you have big government "fascism" on the "right," and communism/socialism big government on the "left," I guess your scale puts anarchy in the middle as moderate? Or - what I think - it just doesn't make sense.

Trump's philosophy does have similarities to classic american democrats (from like 25-50 years ago).
 
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I admire both. Some jobs require you to be very knowledgable and adaptable. So- someone I know manages shop fit ups. They need to know all the legislation they have to comply to. They need to be able to cost a project effectivey. They need to know, hire and manage people to do the work. Their skill set and presumably the way their mind works is going to be very different to a lab technician who focuses on a limited number of tasks.

Both people are 'useful' though. This world likely needs both types to run. Imagine if we all thought in the same way. We all had strengths in the same subject. The competition would be even worse than it is now.

What I think is more important is that people are able to earn a living from doing things they are naturally good at and so- are probably more likely to enjoy. Someone who is massively knowledgable and capable of complex multitasking is likely to be bored stiff in a monotonous job. Vice versa, someone who prefers to work on their own and focus on one main task is likely to feel overwhelmed if they have to face the public and multitask. That's what I find so shit about this world. So many people don't get to use their natural talents. There are so many square pegs shoved into round holes.
 

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