stupid "christian" nazis who hate jews, but don't know that jesus was jewish himself

[xXSufferingXx]

stupid "christian" nazis who hate jews, but don't know that jesus was jewish himself.
sadly, i see many of them online.

idk what bothers me most, the overwhelming ignorance, or just the hate and evil.

fucking idiots like that also contribute to my desire to leave this planet.

 

[NormallyNeurotic]

Jew here. I actually find that some Christian Nazis acknowledge that Jesus was born a Jew if you ask them—they just make up some story about how "it was Jews that crucified him" to try to explain why they think he's, like. The only good Jew, aka a man that was betrayed by Jewishness.

It's a masterclass in cognitive dissonance.

 

[xXSufferingXx]

yeah fuck them, they got bad excuses for everything. but i do think also quite a lot of them literally don't even know the fact lol

 

[alstroemeria55]

They conveniently ignore facts because then their entire faith falls apart.

 

[xXSufferingXx]

They conveniently ignore facts because then their entire faith falls apart.

yes lol

 

[Forever Sleep]

It's seems weird to me that there would be nazi's that consider themselves Christians anyway. But then- that's one problem with religion generally I think. It gets subverted/ perverted to endorse extremism- terrorists often consider themselves deeply religious I imagine. Even if it seems to others like a perverted form of that religion.

Not that I endorse hate but, in truth, I'm not entirely clear on the argument. Even if they openly recognise Jesus as being Jewish- is that necessarily a gold stamp for everyone who is Jewish? Not to say anyone innocent or even guilty deserves hate or illegal treatment. But- does Jesus being Jewish privelage that entire race? Because Hitler was German and a nazi- does that mean all Germans have nazi, hitler traits?

I do agree with you though- that any hate towards a group of people for no reason is awful to witness. Plus- yeah- to actually worship the figurehead of a nationality you claim to despise does seem a naive or double standard.

 

[NormallyNeurotic]

But then- that's one problem with religion generally I think. It gets subverted/ perverted to endorse extremism- terrorists often consider themselves deeply religious I imagine. Even if it seems to others like a perverted form of that religion.

That's sort of the issue with any integral belief, not even religion. People will always find a way to take it to it's most (il)logical extreme.

For example:
"People should be able to live long lives" —> "No one should ever commit suicide, because that cuts their life short"

"Babies deserve to find their way/future in life safely" —> "Abortion is immoral"

 

[Always-in-trouble]

Jew here. I actually find that some Christian Nazis acknowledge that Jesus was born a Jew if you ask them—they just make up some story about how "it was Jews that crucified him" to try to explain why they think he's, like. The only good Jew, aka a man that was betrayed by Jewishness.

It's a masterclass in cognitive dissonance.

Ironic that that The Holy Trinity asserts that Jesus is God, which is basically the Jewish one, so it is more like he is going back to his roots.

 

[NormallyNeurotic]

Ironic that that The Holy Trinity asserts that Jesus is God, which is basically the Jewish one, so it is more like he is going back to his roots.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding your reply, but from I've understood about the Trinity, it's sort of a "I am but I'm also not" situation. (note: I don't censor the name of the Christian god just because it's a sign of respect for me and I don't find Christians' portrayal of him to be accurate)

Jesus is said to be "God," but also "God's" son. They are seperate people, but also not. Just according to what I've been told and what I understood of it.

So the implication by antisemitic Christians is that Jesus himself (the blood, the flesh, whatever) was Jewish via Mary. But "God" is not. And neither is the Holy Spirit. And the Holy Spirit is also Jesus? Or... in Jesus? And because Jesus was "betrayed by Jews" and then "resurrected," I guess he's Aryan now

It's always something like "Christ's teachings were shunned by Jews" etc, etc, claiming their religion is much better than ours. Same bullshit.

 

[X-sanguinate86]

Ridiculous bait.

 

[NormallyNeurotic]

Ridiculous bait.

Maybe it's my autism, but I fail to see the bait.

They put "Christians" in quotes to illustrate that true Christians that followed their Messiah's doctrine wouldn't be antisemitic. I don't see anything bait-like about it. Maybe a Jew, or a goy who is a friend of Jews, just wanted to vent. They attacked either Christian, nor Jew. Merely bigots. Sounds good to me.

If it's "bait," then you're all it caught. The conversation has been cordial and productive so far.

 

[doomedbynarrative]

It gets really dicey when someone tries to explain to said folks that Christian doctrine and theology would not be a concept at all without Judaism having existed prior to that... But no, the ever prevailing "the blood of Christ washes away all the old rules and religion... except for these very specific rules we have taken from the 'Old Testament' that still apply because we said so."

 

[X-sanguinate86]

Maybe it's my autism, but I fail to see the bait.

They put "Christians" in quotes to illustrate that true Christians that followed their Messiah's doctrine wouldn't be antisemitic. I don't see anything bait-like about it. Maybe a Jew, or a goy who is a friend of Jews, just wanted to vent. They attacked either Christian, nor Jew. Merely bigots. Sounds good to me.

If it's "bait," then you're all it caught. The conversation has been cordial and productive so far.

Noticing something is bait isn't being caught by it. Pursuing it with you beyond this would be. Goodnight.

 

[NormallyNeurotic]

Noticing something is bait isn't being caught by it. Pursuing it with you beyond this would be. Goodnight.

Seems like the fact that you think any post about the suffering of marginalized people is "bait" say more about your privilege than mine. Good night

It gets really dicey when someone tries to explain to said folks that Christian doctrine and theology would not be a concept at all without Judaism having existed prior to that... But no, the ever prevailing "the blood of Christ washes away all the old rules and religion... except for these very specific rules we have taken from the 'Old Testament' that still apply because we said so."

This picking and choosing is a Chistofascist's bread and butter, because past that, their hatred doesn't hold up.