riverstyx

riverstyx

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May 31, 2019
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I'm an avid reader on quora.com. Some guy wrote about his experience with N, and he seems to be legit. Maybe he even ordered from our famous A.




 
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Bagger

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Jun 18, 2019
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Good read, thank you.
 
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jake3d

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Which just shows there is another reason besides his own pockets, why A suggests 2 bottles.
 
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intheweeds

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Mar 20, 2019
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The guy definitely comes off as legitimate. Seems like an anomaly to survive that.

With that said I found reading that comforting.
 
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Sep 4, 2018
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Seriously ??? I have my suitcases packed already for Heaven
 
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Deep Breaths
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That was a rather interesting read. Thanks for posting it.
 
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Life+me=error

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May 22, 2019
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"The closest I have ever been to actually dying. Hear me out, there is absolutely nothing there. Not a thing. Not even maybe. Literally nothing." :love:

Thanks for posting.
 
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Seriously ??? I have my suitcases packed already for Heaven

Step out into the dawn
You pray 'til, you pray 'til the lights come on
And then you feel like you've just been born
Yeah, you come to raise me up
When I'm beaten and broken up
And now I'm back in the arms I love

And I think I just died
I think I just died
Yeah, I think I just died
I think I just died

And went to Heaven
And went to Heaven, whoa

Beaten and bathed in blood
I'm hit by, I'm hit by your love and drug
And now you've c-come to raise me up

And I think I just died
I think I just died
Yeah, I think I just died

And went to Heaven
And went to Heaven
Whoa, and went to Heaven

Ooh, oh

It's such a night, such a beautiful night
It's such a view, such a beautiful sight
I think I just, oh, I think I just died, oh

And went to Heaven
And went to Heaven
Oh, yeah, yeah

We're gonna be birds and fly
We're gonna set the world alight
We're gonna lose ourselves tonight, whoa
We're gonna be birds and fly
We're gonna set the world alight
We're gonna lose ourselves tonight, oh
In Heaven
 
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oopswronglife

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Jun 27, 2019
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What someone experiences when "dying" or even being clinically dead is no indicator as to whether there is or isn't anything after. All day long I see people online making claims of fact based on their own opinion/belief/experience. Seeing some vision of an angel doesn't mean there is a heaven, not experiencing anything doesn't mean there isn't anything.
 
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bluesky1972-2019

bluesky1972-2019

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May 21, 2019
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Very interesting read. I can't afford or risk ordering N but it does sound disgusting to drink.
Isn't it usually injected when used in the US prison execution? Might be why it's injected to make sure it is 100% effective.
Some might say the fact he said there is nothing after you die is because he didn't die, just passed out in effect?
 
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Sailfisher

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Apr 19, 2019
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Well, he wasn't actually dead so he doesn't know what is on the other side...
 
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Life+me=error

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May 22, 2019
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Well, he wasn't actually dead so he doesn't know what is on the other side...

Considering the reality of life and knowing how our existence was before we were born it is easy to conclude that we return to nothingness.
 
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Jun 7, 2019
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Right, Sailfisher! And everyone here knows that taking just one bottle is a BIG mistake! A woman on Derek H's blog - Final Exit - warned people years ago that it was not enough as she also woke up and was taken to the hospital. Ben did not do his research. He also didn't take Botot or some strong liquor to numb his tongue before the N.

Many who die and are resuscitated report nothing and others have out-of-body experiences, NDE's. So Ben's statements prove nothing.
 
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oopswronglife

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Considering the reality of life and knowing how our existence was before we were born it is easy to conclude that we return to nothingness.

Nobody knows what existence there was or was not before. This is often used by the oblivion people as some proof. "It will be like it was before you were born!" as if they know what that means. Maybe it was nothing. Maybe it was something you don't remember. People continually conclude things from ideas that don't prove anything at all and it really frustrates me.
 
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1234dave

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Oct 5, 2018
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My belief is that it's complete nothingness, lights off. But before Thant there is a big surge of brain activity where all the brains chemicals are released trying to save it. In that time you experience a trip of some sort, from the rushes of dmt.
 
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RainAndSadness

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Jun 12, 2018
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Thanks. These stories make sense and I also think this person is legitimate. And it's very helpful actually for me to embrace and mentally prepare for death. Especially the description of drinking N, how it feels like and how quickly you will lose consciousness, how you basically just fade to black. I also like the approach to suicide, like - you will never know that you actually died. Like, your experience of life will stop right after you drink N and the conclusion will never unfold - like in a movie, that ends in a gigantic cliffhanger and without the second part. You will never know if you succeeded. That's how suicide or death feels like. Very interesting. I like it.
 
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calendulo

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Jun 13, 2019
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Time ago I read these stories.

It's hard to believe that a person drunk 6 grms. of sodium pentobarbital and not die.Especially, when lethal dose is 3 grms.
All scientist literature about that I've read shows a opposite result.

I do not see the sense. After of the administration, How much time was sleeping?. two, three, four. I do not know.

He blamed alcohol.

It does not show any detail, only about taste.

A unbelievable story. A rapsody.
 
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Idorus

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Apr 30, 2018
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Well, he wasn't actually dead so he doesn't know what is on the other side...

Nor does he know what it actually feels like to die from N as he didn't undergo the process of dying itself in which his organs succeeded to fail.
 
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oopswronglife

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Jun 27, 2019
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It shouldn't bother you, life is hard enough already. Let others conclude, believe or speculate in what ever they want. Let's agree to disagree :smiling:

It's easy to tell other people what SHOULDN'T bother them...a that's another thing that bothers me. I don't need to agree to disagree. I already disagree. That saying is some weird sort of last word passive aggression people use in response. The REASON this issue bothers me is because people use such declaration to demean others fears and thinking. Telling them a given result is a FACT because they believe it to be so and arguing the person down. They are unable to say "This is what I think is probably true" and instead they say "This IS what true and its silly for you to think as you do"
 
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Life+me=error

Warlock
May 22, 2019
736
I think it will bother you more if we continue our lovely conversation. So have a good day.
 
riverstyx

riverstyx

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May 31, 2019
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Thanks. These stories make sense and I also think this person is legitimate. And it's very helpful actually for me to embrace and mentally prepare for death. Especially the description of drinking N, how it feels like and how quickly you will lose consciousness, how you basically just fade to black. I also like the approach to suicide, like - you will never know that you actually died. Like, your experience of life will stop right after you drink N and the conclusion will never unfold - like in a movie, that ends in a gigantic cliffhanger and without the second part. You will never know if you succeeded. That's how suicide or death feels like. Very interesting. I like it.

I like his description of an N death too. Sure, It's scary to slip into nothingness, and I'll probably be both anxious and scared when my time comes, but as soon as you lose consciousness you're in the clear.

I liken it to me not being here in 1975 or 1648 for that matter. Did I suffer when I didn't exist at that time? No.

I'm also aware that death is completely unavoidable. In the universe everything we know about "dies". Even our own sun, which has a life expectancy of some billion years. Still, the sun isn't going to be here forever. Entropy increases over time. Our bodies are finite.
 
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