Venting Stop using ad hominem attacks on yourself while you are on the internet or in real life.

[WhatCouldHaveBeen32]

Want to NOT get false information and circle jerk only?
Then DON'T say things like "It's a me issue, as a black man, as a women, as a man, as an autist , as an adhd person" and then say what people want to hear. First , no matter how harsh it is , people in discussions for whatever idiotic and retarded reasons only want to hear the trumpet of victory, they want to win the discussion, they don't want to put themselves in your shoes, so if you know that is about to happen just end the conversation right there.

So when you use things like I mentioned earlier, basically do an ad hominem attack on YOURSELF and belittle yourself, you become a walking doormat.

If you don't use a very defensive a very passive stance and actually voice your problems however, you might end up getting some random arbitrary shitty comments and downvotes or dislikes or even a broken friendship! WOW , imagine that in 1942 if you went to Nazi Germany as a person of color , woman or kid and said something along the lines "I think people who happen to be Jews, deserve the same amount of respect as everyone else" you'd find yourself ridiculed unironically by millions of Nazi's, and in the end (besides you being killed) , you'd still be right! see how the monkey brain is dumb and thinks big number > you = big number is right? it's not, it never will, changes happen when a couple of people go against the status quo of millions.

So be vocal about this shit if you know what you're saying HOLDS water, don't start with random conspiracies and other gender war or what some of you call woke bullshit, those are not arguments, you are the same as those I described in the first paragraph. You are the ones who want to hear "As a woman/black man" arguments and then think "I WAS RIGHT, LOOK! A RANDOM PERSON (who is not a woman and neither a black man but I'll never acknowledge that) SAID WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR but described themselves as a woman/black man (exactly the people whom I hate for not saying the things I want to hear on a daily basis).

That's not discussion, that's just hate in acceptable form, pathetic fucks those people, that's what they are.

 

[Apathy79]

It's a me issue but as a man I think you're right

 

[LittleMagician]

Want to NOT get false information and circle jerk only?
Then DON'T say things like "It's a me issue, as a black man, as a women, as a man, as an autist , as an adhd person" and then say what people want to hear. First , no matter how harsh it is , people in discussions for whatever idiotic and retarded reasons only want to hear the trumpet of victory, they want to win the discussion, they don't want to put themselves in your shoes, so if you know that is about to happen just end the conversation right there.

So when you use things like I mentioned earlier, basically do an ad hominem attack on YOURSELF and belittle yourself, you become a walking doormat.

If you don't use a very defensive a very passive stance and actually voice your problems however, you might end up getting some random arbitrary shitty comments and downvotes or dislikes or even a broken friendship! WOW , imagine that in 1942 if you went to Nazi Germany as a person of color , woman or kid and said something along the lines "I think people who happen to be Jews, deserve the same amount of respect as everyone else" you'd find yourself ridiculed unironically by millions of Nazi's, and in the end (besides you being killed) , you'd still be right! see how the monkey brain is dumb and thinks big number > you = big number is right? it's not, it never will, changes happen when a couple of people go against the status quo of millions.

So be vocal about this shit if you know what you're saying HOLDS water, don't start with random conspiracies and other gender war or what some of you call woke bullshit, those are not arguments, you are the same as those I described in the first paragraph. You are the ones who want to hear "As a woman/black man" arguments and then think "I WAS RIGHT, LOOK! A RANDOM PERSON (who is not a woman and neither a black man but I'll never acknowledge that) SAID WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR but described themselves as a woman/black man (exactly the people whom I hate for not saying the things I want to hear on a daily basis).

That's not discussion, that's just hate in acceptable form, pathetic fucks those people, that's what they are.

People want labels to put themselves in relatable situations. Also being autistic fucking sucks and decreases your life satisfaction by A LOT, honestly to point where I would say if I was not born autistic I probably wouldn't have the urge to ctb, so I think people have the right to vent and blame some things on their autism or mental health issues but as for race and gender it really depends on the situation because I have seen it been used in a very silly way.

 

[EvisceratedJester]

People want labels to put themselves in relatable situations. Also being autistic fucking sucks and decreases your life satisfaction by A LOT, honestly to point where I would say if I was not born autistic I probably wouldn't have the urge to ctb, so I think people have the right to vent and blame some things on their autism or mental health issues but as for race and gender it really depends on the situation because I have seen it been used in a very silly way.

I'm sorry, but no. There have been plenty of cases of people bringing up their autism in incredibly ridiculous contexts. The whole "autism decreases your life satisfaction by a lot" argument also completely falls flat once you take into consideration the fact that race and gender can also do the same thing. Like what? Do you think that somebody who is PoC isn't going to have their life satisfaction strongly impacted by the racism they have to deal with? That's not a good argument.

 

[LittleMagician]

I'm sorry, but no. There have been plenty of cases of people bringing up their autism in incredibly ridiculous contexts. The whole "autism decreases your life satisfaction by a lot" argument also completely falls flat once you take into consideration the fact that race and gender can also do the same thing. Like what? Do you think that somebody who is PoC isn't going to have their life satisfaction strongly impacted by the racism they have to deal with? That's not a good argument.

Coming from a poc woman with autism the racism I deal with holds significantly less weight to my life than the obstructions my autism has on my life. You can have a differing opinion but that doesn't mean my life experiences aren't valid.

 

[EvisceratedJester]

Coming from a poc woman with autism the racism I deal with holds significantly less weight to my life than the obstructions my autism has on my life. You can have a differing opinion but that doesn't mean my life experiences aren't valid.

Okay, cool. That doesn't mean shit. For some people, the racism or sexism that they go through holds significantly more weight for them. That's not a good argument. I'm also a POC women and I live in an area that's pretty diverse. I personally know plenty of people who do find that racism has a significant impact on them, much more compared to other struggles, including their neurodivergence. Your experiences are not reflective of other people's experiences.

 

[LittleMagician]

Okay, cool. That doesn't mean shit. For some people, the racism or sexism that they go through holds significantly more weight for them. That's not a good argument. I'm also a POC women and I live in an area that's pretty diverse. I personally know plenty of people who do find that racism has a significant impact on them, much more compared to other struggles, including their neurodivergence. Your experiences are not reflective of other people's experiences.

Yeah and neither are yours, I never claimed mine to be I just stated my own opinion.

 

[EvisceratedJester]

Yeah and neither are yours, I never claimed mine to be I just stated my own opinion.

You claimed

Also being autistic fucking sucks and decreases your life satisfaction by A LOT, honestly to point where I would say if I was not born autistic I probably wouldn't have the urge to ctb, so I think people have the right to vent and blame some things on their autism or mental health issues but as for race and gender it really depends on the situation because I have seen it been used in a very silly way.

^ You made a large generalization and are treating your experiences as reflective of other people's experiences when they aren't.

 

[LittleMagician]

You claimed

^ You made a large generalization and are treating your experiences as reflective of other people's experiences when they aren't.

I literally can only speak from my own experiences, hence the use of first person pronouns. Also I do not understand why you are so triggered by me saying this, autism objectively makes life quality worse; in this day and age yeah there is racism but it is definitely not as bad as it was decades ago

 

[EvisceratedJester]

I literally can only speak from my own experiences, hence the use of first person pronouns. Also I do not understand why you are so triggered by me saying this, autism objectively makes life quality worse; in this day and age yeah this is racism but it definitely not as bad as it was decades ago

You are literally making generalizations based on your own experiences. That's the point I'm trying to make. I'm also not triggered, I'm just pointing out that your argument isn't that good. It completely falls apart when you take into consideration the fact that your experiences aren't reflective of other people's experiences, thus the hold "well, autism decreases my life satisfaction more, so I think that people have the right to vent about it" while also stating otherwise in regards to sexism and racism falls apart.

 

[LittleMagician]

You are literally making generalizations based on your own experiences. That's the point I'm trying to make. I'm also not triggered, I'm just pointing out that your argument isn't that good. It completely falls apart when you take into consideration the fact that your experiences aren't reflective of other people's experiences, thus the hold "well, autism decreases my life satisfaction more, so I think that people have the right to vent about it" while also stating otherwise in regards to sexism and racism falls apart.

I said it depends, i never said it was always true, obviously people can be affected by their race and gender- but honestly I still believe that mental disorders vastly deteriorate your quality of life compared to what gender or race you were born into in a 21st century world…that is just my opinion and I will not be doubling down on it

 

[WhatCouldHaveBeen32]

People want labels to put themselves in relatable situations. Also being autistic fucking sucks and decreases your life satisfaction by A LOT, honestly to point where I would say if I was not born autistic I probably wouldn't have the urge to ctb, so I think people have the right to vent and blame some things on their autism or mental health issues but as for race and gender it really depends on the situation because I have seen it been used in a very silly way.

I understand that, but what I'm talking about is people going to idk, some smuck, chud , whatever you wanna call these types of people and when you hear them talk shit about other people on the spectrum you go "Oh yea, I'm an autist too, I totally agree, I am like that but I'm trying not to be" like seriously? you really want these people's attention? So many people are bending over backwards this day and age for what is essentially a fly that came from the ass of a horse. Why? because they feel pressured to do so.

One of the most toxic things you can do in my opinion is to blame yourself when you are sure you didn't make a mistake, I don't know if there is a term for that outside of doormat. At least that's what I wanted to say in the original post, stop bending backwards for people who can't even begin to imagine what is like being in your shoes. This would be my piece of advice for myself, would it cure my trauma and the fact that I am on the spectrum? no, but it would allow me to evolve even if just a little more than I did and things might have turned differently.