Discussion Someone once disagreed with suicide due to it's "permanence"

[TAW122]

A few months ago, I had a discussion with someone online about the idea of suicide being rational and even after taking out religion and subjective secular morality, he told me that most people (including himself) are against it due to the issue of the act being final, being permanent. I've argued that humans have oftenly made shitty choices such as eating unhealthily, doing risky/extreme activities (skydiving, base jumping, racing, eating dangerous foods that could kill if prepared improperly, visit dangerous locations, etc.), smoking, doing drugs, etc. However, he has argued that those activities that are harmful are oftenly temporary and mostly can be recovered from. He did however, partially agree that if someone was suffering immensely for an extended period of time (years - like over a decade or so), including mentally/psychologically, then he would agree with said person's decision to die.

What are your thoughts on his stance? What good counter-arguments are there to his point?

Note: This is similar to the line of "Suicide is a permanent problem to a temporary problem" but not quite the same line of reasoning.

 

[woxihuanni]

He is welcome to suffer for a decade until he allows himself a way out. Otherwise he can stuff his dirty socks up his throat. Since birth is also not reversible, by that logic nobody should breed.

 

[StillWaiting]

Guess people bet too much on how life will change for the better when situation for some people will only get worse when they age. It is true that some people lives may change for better but there will always be people who will continue to suffer

 

[kerolox]

I'm willing to accept that some people do take their lives for bad reasons or for 'temporary problems' but I only see that as justification to implement some reasonable safeguards not to wholesale deny it to people who may desperately need it as a last resort to end their suffering.

 

[burnedCookie]

You don't need counter arguments since there is nothing to argue about. It's your life and if you want to end it, it's nobody's business.