So super-majority of the society is anti-social

[kamakura]

I have to say given the below description of anti-social, the supermajority of humanity must fall into the group. At least most if not all people i have met definitely meet the criteria.
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Antisocial personality disorder is defined by a pervasive and persistent disregard for morals, social norms, and the rights and feelings of others.[3] Individuals with this personality disorder will typically have no compunction in exploiting others in harmful ways for their own gain or pleasure and frequently manipulate and deceive other people, achieving this through wit and a façade of superficial charm or through intimidation and violence.[11]

 

[Brink]

Not sure if this says more about people or the diagnostic criteria itself...

 

[kamakura]

At the very least, Don Trump the Great clearly squares right in this definition.

 

[Brink]

At the very least, Don Trump the Great clearly squares right in this definition.

He's definitely on the more extreme end of the spectrum

 

[kamakura]

People take advantage of you and the society screws you, you say fuck the world, now you are antisocial and is considered ill. Those making this disorder up must be living inside a mansion with rich papa

 

[Brink]

There are psychopaths that can switch empathy on/off but it's very rare. The diagnostic criteria is thin in my view

 

[Mr2005]

Going by that I'm not anti social then and if I am it's only because the vast majority of society seems to be made up of anti social people. How weird. There'll come a day there's more celebrities than not and they're all wanting our autographs

 

[TAW122]

People take advantage of you and the society screws you, you say fuck the world, now you are antisocial and is considered ill. Those making this disorder up must be living inside a mansion with rich papa

Well said, and hence I think psychiatry itself is a flaw (for the good chunk of it) and I don't agree with a lot of it's findings. I compare it closer to secular religion instead of liturgical religion. Gone were the days when religion reigned, and now with modern governments, they have institutions (psychiatry) that enforce and maintain social order, hence anything that questions, upsets, or lambasts this social order controller (psychiatry), is quashed and deemed ill. It reflects something Orwellian, not even being able to point out the flaws and pointing out the flaw is a flaw of itself. Sad times indeed.

As the world gravitates closer and closer to an Orwellian society and reality, I'm getting closer and closer to checking out so that I won't have to experience an Orwellian existence, being monitored, shunned, and/or being punished (civilly and extrajudicially) for wrongthink.

 

[kamakura]

the society however people claim democratic is top-down and well-structured (ie controlled), with people inside the flow benefiting from the order/structure, and those outside the flow being taken advantage of by this human-imposed order. There are many mediocre and outright dumb people who are doing well in this structure because of family and personal reasons or more fairly due to luck. Those who see it as total dogma and challenge the status-quo AND succeed are considered visionary/creative/innovative, those who fail are considered anti-social/ill/selfdestructive. I prefer a merit-base society, but as long as people are in control, that will never happen. Machines should rule.

 

[RayoSinSol]

the society however people claim democratic is top-down and well-structured (ie controlled), with people inside the flow benefiting from the order/structure, and those outside the flow being taken advantage of by this human-imposed order. There are many mediocre and outright dumb people who are doing well in this structure because of family and personal reasons or more fairly due to luck. Those who see it as total dogma and challenge the status-quo AND succeed are considered visionary/creative/innovative, those who fail are considered anti-social/ill/selfdestructive. I prefer a merit-base society, but as long as people are in control, that will never happen. Machines should rule.

Isaac Asimov was on some real shit. Too bad humans would have to be the ones to design those machine, though. I'm sure they/we would find some spectacular way to fuck that up and spread the contagion of human bias and dysfunction.

 

[avoid_slow_death]

Not so much anti social, I think. More motivated out of a combination of fear and/or laziness. The vast majority of us are raised in such a way that we are taught to hold the values instilled in us from such a young age as above all others. With that mindset, we tend to ignore and exclude anything that does not conform to those standards. We vilify them as ignoble, wrong and evil and instead of trying to understand the root cause of an opposing value system and working towards compromise, we instead try to suppress or destroy it in an effort to elevate our own to a higher status. We do this with the intention of trying to "help" society become a better place when in reality we are only causing a wider rift in human relations that ultimately leads to more of what destroys as a whole overall. Compromise and understanding are slowly becoming archaic ideas as we move towards a world in which we are tribes savagely destroying one another in an effort to seize power to rule the lives of others toward what end? As long as we continue to focus more internally and less externally, we will march forward to our ultimate extinction.