Venting So horrible how Nembutal isn’t an accessible option for ctb

[FuneralCry]

The fact that we cannot leave in peace just shows what an evil and disgusting world we exist in, it's just so horrible how methods like Nembutal aren't even legalised and available, with one expected to suffer against their wishes instead in an existence they were so cruelly burdened with.

It's really inhumane how suicide is purposely made as difficult as possible for people when in reality access to a method like Nembutal should be a human right. It's compassionate letting people die in peace, the right to die is compassionate as it's suffering prevention and suicide means the permanent relief and freedom from all suffering, it's taking control over the inevitable, we are all just going to die anyway so I would always prefer to leave peacefully on my own terms.

Suicide should never be so stigmatised and it's repulsive how it is, one shouldn't have to endure this futile process of waiting around to die anyway for one second more than they wish to, it's criminal to me how one cannot just choose to leave this world peacefully in their sleep, having Nembutal legalised would be such a relief for suffering people and would prevent so much torture.

There really is no justifcation for denying people a peaceful suicide without risks and complications, none of us are obligated to continue existing here, we shouldn't have to suffer so much to escape the ultimate cause of all suffering in the first place. All that humans do is create suffering, it's tragic how N still isn't an option for ctb.

 

[befree]

it's tragic how N still isn't an option for ctb.

I knew it would happen that the last N source would disappear. The same will happen with SN as with N. Members had repeatedly posted very precise details about N sources, even photos showing the N bottle with the label and details about the customs declaration.

 

[Fabled Oblivion]

People want to pretend like life is great when it isn't the only peaceful death is old age and letting people die of "natural causes" then it is acceptable, people like us need each other cause most people will splay you shouldn't want that or it could be worse. We just want the peace that isn't given to us

 

[MyChoiceAlone]

they need more people to buy their expensive meds. i read an article about some high schooler that died after applying some acne med before going to bed. that was totally sad. year 2023 and the docs still make plenty of mistakes but they and pharm companies enjoy any profit.

 

[soonatpeace777888]

Apparently its possible to synthesize at home. I might look into it but just getting a gun seems easier and I have no qualms about gun method.

 

[Zegers]

Why didn't you buy it when it was available?

 

[GreenTree]

Yes it should be optional. I'd take it as I feel a risk too others and I keep telling shrink and mental health nurses. Trying to do the right thing by killing myself but as only 1 in 25 suicide attempts succeed its almost impossible to successfully do it. I think of killing people all the time and been telling so called professionals. I want to die to stop that happening. Trying to do the right thing.

 

[todienomore]

I know of something comparable that is still easily available but Im not telling lol.

Research magnesium, itll cause a coma.

Hypermagnesemia - Magnesium Overdose

Fatal Hypermagnesemia Due to Laxative Use: Case Report and Review of the Literature https://sci-hub.se/10.1016/j.amjms.2017.08.013 Hypermagnesemia-induced fatality following epsom salt gargles https://sci-hub.se/10.1016/S0736-4679(01)00462-0 Pros: Epsom Salts are readily available at any...

sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[Sad Avocado]

The fact that we cannot leave in peace just shows what an evil and disgusting world we exist in, it's just so horrible how methods like Nembutal aren't even legalised and available, with one expected to suffer against their wishes instead in an existence they were so cruelly burdened with.

It's really inhumane how suicide is purposely made as difficult as possible for people when in reality access to a method like Nembutal should be a human right. It's compassionate letting people die in peace, the right to die is compassionate as it's suffering prevention and suicide means the permanent relief and freedom from all suffering, it's taking control over the inevitable, we are all just going to die anyway so I would always prefer to leave peacefully on my own terms.

Suicide should never be so stigmatised and it's repulsive how it is, one shouldn't have to endure this futile process of waiting around to die anyway for one second more than they wish to, it's criminal to me how one cannot just choose to leave this world peacefully in their sleep, having Nembutal legalised would be such a relief for suffering people and would prevent so much torture.

There really is no justifcation for denying people a peaceful suicide without risks and complications, none of us are obligated to continue existing here, we shouldn't have to suffer so much to escape the ultimate cause of all suffering in the first place. All that humans do is create suffering, it's tragic how N still isn't an option for ctb.

i wanted to try that too but for that fact that it isnt really accessible i think i will go with SN which is pretty much the same thing. Nonetheless i find this very unfair

 

[ThisIsLife]

Apparently its possible to synthesize at home. I might look into it but just getting a gun seems easier and I have no qualms about gun method.

No it's not. I know how to make it and not only it is VERY complicated but the stuff needed is also hard to find. Not only that, but you'd also need a professionnal lab.

I know of something comparable that is still easily available but Im not telling lol.

Research magnesium, itll cause a coma.

Hypermagnesemia - Magnesium Overdose

Fatal Hypermagnesemia Due to Laxative Use: Case Report and Review of the Literature https://sci-hub.se/10.1016/j.amjms.2017.08.013 Hypermagnesemia-induced fatality following epsom salt gargles https://sci-hub.se/10.1016/S0736-4679(01)00462-0 Pros: Epsom Salts are readily available at any...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Death by magnesium sulfate is everything but short and painless. I don't understand why even mentionning it on a thread about N...

 

[locked*n*loaded]

No it's not. I know how to make it and not only it is VERY complicated but the stuff needed is also hard to find. Not only that, but you'd also need a professionnal lab.

Then what is this?:

Equipment

-hotplate
-stainless steel cup
-small cooking pot
-thermometer
-clamp-stand
-filter
-stainless steel stir rod

Reagents

-26.7 g of clean metallic sodium
-400 g of anhydrous (dry) Ethanol
-32.7g of Urea, molecular biology grade, CH4N2O, FW=60 g/mol
-Solution of 100 g of 1-methyl butyl-ethyl malonic ester(Propanedioic acid)
-Water

PROCEDURE

1) A hotplate was rested on the base of a clampstand. A cooking pot containing 400 g of anhydrous (dry) ethanol is placed on the hotplate stirrer and 26.7g of clean metallic sodium is dissolved in it.

2) Into the stainless steel cup there is placed a Solution of 100 g of 1-methyl butyl-ethyl malonic ester(Propanedioic acid). The cup is then placed into the small cooking pot containing a mixture of the Ethanol and Sodium and secured with clamps to the clamp stand. The end of the thermometer is placed in the pot and positioned as close to the cup as possible.

3) It is warmed to a temperature of 170°C for 10 minutes to remove any residual moisture. Throughout the reaction the temperature of the mixture is kept at 170°C and stirring is done frequently.

4) 10.9 g of urea is added slowly, one scoop at a time and with good stirring. During this moisture (water) formed making the mixture damp. Over the course of 20 minutes the mixture gradually dries out and the amount of released gas lessens.

5) Another 10.9 g of urea is added and allowed to react for 35 minutes.

6) The last 10.9 g of urea is added and allowed to react for 30 minutes.

7) After adding the total amount of urea over 1h 25 min, the mixture is dry, contained yellow and off-yellow-to-white granules, and still damp with the water and alcohol. The product is then heated at a temperature of 280°C directly on the hotplate for 1h 20mins. During this process the mixture is stirred every 15 minutes and off-yellow-to-white granules became more prominent and as yellow ones lessened. The precipitated product is washed with cold water , filtered and heated again for about 40 minutes at a temperature of 127-130°C until all the water is removed and the white powder(Nembutal Sodium) is formed .

8) The Nembutal Sodium is allowed to cool and weighed. Yield is 23g. The product is 95-99% pure. You can also use a test kit to Check the purity

 

[befree]

i think i will go with SN which is pretty much the same thing

Are you serious ??? Have you ever read details about SN in the forum ? Do you really expect SN to be as peaceful and reliable as N ? Then you are misinformed.

 

[RW__Asher23]

Well when my illness gets too bad and pain levels are unbearable I already been approved for Nembutal and another med to go with it but maybe I could just go with my original plan one of two ways to take myself out. I promised myself Old Age will not take me before I do it myself but then my illness gets worse and have to decide which to do. So maybe I will get the Nembutal and give it away to some nice SS person here and I use my original method and take myself out as planned. Will see when time comes. But for now yes I agree N should be more available to anyone mentally sound and wanting to go ctb for their own reasons. And we all have enough of those, "Reasons". Wish you some Peace.

 

[Yavannah]

i wanted to try that too but for that fact that it isnt really accessible i think i will go with SN which is pretty much the same thing. Nonetheless i find this very unfair

its miles away from being the same.. you cant even compare the two
thats just a lie PN made up to sell his book

 

[Sad Avocado]

its miles away from being the same.. you cant even compare the two
thats just a lie PN made up to sell his book

wait can you explain the difference between the two?

Are you serious ??? Have you ever read details about SN in the forum ? Do you really expect SN to be as peaceful and reliable as N ? Then you are misinformed.

i read about the symptoms of sn, sure N is 100% success and better than sn but i meant the symptoms are not that bad

 

[befree]

You say you have read about SN, but in the next sentence you ask what is the difference between N and SN. This sounds like you didn't understand either method.

 

[DeadHead]

I knew it would happen that the last N source would disappear. The same will happen with SN as with N. Members had repeatedly posted very precise details about N sources, even photos showing the N bottle with the label and details about the customs declaration.

Indeed, the other problem is that no one really knows who is on this board. It would be easy to make an account here, play along, and get enough information to close a vendor down.

 

[day]

Nembutal should be a right for people everywhere. There's nothing that should make people suffer more and more than they already have. I hate that we live in such a futile world that prevents us from safe way out of existence.