Sn worry

[Circlingthedrain]

Hello all, I apologise if this has been answered ( I'm sure it has but I'm really not great technology wise) I'm currently waiting for my sn to arrive and I've got one nagging concern. From what I can tell people tend too I guess drift off and fall asleep after 20 minutes or so. But is this caused by hypoxia or a combination of it and sedatives? I dont really like the idea of being awake the whole time and I guess feeling my body be starved of oxygen haha. Again apologies if this has already been answered

 

[Christ88]

Hello all, I apologise if this has been answered ( I'm sure it has but I'm really not great technology wise) I'm currently waiting for my sn to arrive and I've got one nagging concern. From what I can tell people tend too I guess drift off and fall asleep after 20 minutes or so. But is this caused by hypoxia or a combination of it and sedatives? I dont really like the idea of being awake the whole time and I guess feeling my body be starved of oxygen haha. Again apologies if this has already been answered

The PPH explains a typical timeline of symptoms. Here it is:

3 minutes: Dizzy

7 minutes: Very Drowsy

12 minutes: Unconscious

40 minutes: Death

The PPH recommends 25 grams of SN mixed with 50 4mg tablets of propanolol (2 grams of propanolol in total).

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

The recent documented account of Moonicide's SN ctb was iffy as to whether she was consciously short of breath or already unconscious and experiencing rattles. You can search "success," there is a recent post in which the OP provided a grid of the anecdotal accounts of SN successes and failure. Rapid heartbeat, dizziness, burning throat and stomach, and vomiting seem to be the common symptoms when conscious, not shortness of breath, but I recommend looking at that post. The dizziness and passing out seem to be related to the body, but not yet the lungs, being starved of oxygen. I read in another post, can't recall which and can't verify the accuracy, that the least essential organs will be starved before the most essential, the lungs, heart, and brain.

 

[Zoltiel]

The PPH recommends 25 grams of SN mixed with 50 4mg tablets of propanolol (2 grams of propanolol in total).

50 4mg tablets is .2g

 

[Jean4]

Welcome to the forum. We are glad you are here.
Here is everything you ever needed to know about SN and was afraid to ask. ;)

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/stans-guide-to-sn.27535/

 

[Quarky00]

But is this caused by hypoxia or a combination of it and sedatives?

FAQ Death , FAQ Benzo.

What's the medical state?

anemic hypoxia, "blood fails to deliver oxygen".

Benzo​
Warnings:	Taken too soon – may fall asleep before SN.

Obviously Stan's guide comes first .

 

[Christ88]

50 4mg tablets is .2g

My mistake, update: 50 tablets of 40mg, or 25 tablets of 80mg (total of 2g propranolol)

 

[k75]

My mistake, update: 50 tablets of 40mg, or 25 tablets of 80mg (total of 2g propranolol)

I've said this a few times before, but 2g is a ridiculous number. It's basically an OD in itself. I trust what they recommend a little less because of it.

 

[Dubs]

I've said this a few times before, but 2g is a ridiculous number. It's basically an OD in itself. I trust what they recommend a little less because of it.

I agree. I'm just going to do like ~200mg tops.

 

[Christ88]

I've said this a few times before, but 2g is a ridiculous number. It's basically an OD in itself. I trust what they recommend a little less because of it.

the point of the propranolol is to lose consciousness as quickly as possible, so I would personally go with what they recommend 2grams

 

[kiki666]

If you can't get propranolol, do you have a sleeping pill?

 

[Christ88]

If you can't get propranolol, do you have a sleeping pill?

Propanolol is not a sleeping pill, it is a beta blocker. It stops the heart from pumping blood to the brain when the SN starts working and then the result is a quick loss of consciousness

 

[Rdc]

I've said this a few times before, but 2g is a ridiculous number. It's basically an OD in itself. I trust what they recommend a little less because of it.

Well you are killing yourself so as long as it aids in helping you pass out I wouldn't worry about the fact it is such a high dose.

 

[Circlingthedrain]

I'm slowly starting to understand a little more about what role beta blockers etc play in it all so thanks to everyone for that, ordered my sn on new years eve still not arrived as of today? Guessing this is normal but part of me is worrying In case it's been seized... Wont say who from/ where I bought, dont wanna break any rules just sure hope I haven't been scammed haha

 

[k75]

Well you are killing yourself so as long as it aids in helping you pass out I wouldn't worry about the fact it is such a high dose.

Propranolol tastes very bad. The more you have, the stronger the taste. They want you to grind it up and mix it in the same small amount of water as the SN.

I'm not sure it'll dissolve well.
I'm positive it will taste hideous.
I'm pretty sure the dose is overkill.
People got along just fine before it was part of the recipe, so it's not necessary for passing out.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

Propranolol tastes very bad. The more you have, the stronger the taste. They want you to grind it up and mix it in the same small amount of water as the SN.

I'm not sure it'll dissolve well.
I'm positive it will taste hideous.
I'm pretty sure the dose is overkill.
People got along just fine before it was part of the recipe, so it's not necessary for passing out.

About the dose being overkill, I agree. I read up on the effects of a propanolol OD, includes difficulty breathing, and SN already does that to many. I don't want to exacerbate the one symptom I already have a problem with.

 

[Ghost2211]

I get the impression that you're way to out of it to know or care what's happening before you become too symptomatic.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

I get the impression that you're way to out of it to know or care what's happening before you become too symptomatic.

Are you talking about propanolol?

If yes, I'm wavering about adding the huge dose to SN. I'm seeking peace, and a ctb-inducing amount of propanolol could do it. Difficulty breathing is not peaceful to me, but I can manage vomiting, which can occur regardless of antiemetic/meto.

 

[GinaIsReady]

I keep going back and forth about whether to use propanolol. The main reason for that is the sheer amount of pills that have to be taken. I'm wondering about grinding them up and adding them to the SN in powder form and then keeping all that down. However, I think I am more inclined to use it than not because of its benefits (I like the idea of losing consciousness faster). I ordered mine on Jan 9th and it's not here yet. Checked on it this morning and they reshipped it. I guess it's going to come down to whether or not I have it in my possession at that precise time I am ready to exit.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

I keep going back and forth about whether to use propanolol. The main reason for that is the sheer amount of pills that have to be taken. I'm wondering about grinding them up and adding them to the SN in powder form and then keeping all that down. However, I think I am more inclined to use it than not because of its benefits (I like the idea of losing consciousness faster). I ordered mine on Jan 9th and it's not here yet. Checked on it this morning and they reshipped it. I guess it's going to come down to whether or not I have it in my possession at that precise time I am ready to exit.

I'm considering using gelatin capsules for the SN, and either taking propanolol tablets whole or crushing them and drinking. Also considering taking up to 1000 mg of diazepam just before. I'm all about losing consciousness before the effects kick in, and diazepam will also block seizures.

Edit: I have propanolol pills, they are tiny. In the Zitske video they looked bigger, maybe depends on the manufacturer.

 

[GinaIsReady]

I am staying away from the capsules method because I do not want to delay the absorption of the SN. Good idea on the diazepam, but just wondering if the amount is overkill and my concern with that is that it will induce vomiting. I do get it that you'd want to be knocked out asap.

I was originally going with N but A scammed me. I have two bottles of N and it isn't enough and so I have to go with Plan B, SN. He didn't send what he promised. I believe he sent half as much. The bottles are clear plastic with zero labeling so I actually am not sure what I have but I believe it to be only 6 grams.

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

I am staying away from the capsules method because I do not want to delay the absorption of the SN. Good idea on the diazepam, but just wondering if the amount is overkill and my concern with that is that it will induce vomiting. I do get it that you'd want to be knocked out asap.

The dosage of diazepam I got from a book that was about the chloroquine method. I was going to go with chloroquine but cannot access it.

In researching chloroquine, there have been debates about diazepam vs a combo of slow- and fast-acting sleeping pills, but a high dosage of diazepam does the trick. The debate had to do with diazepam potentially counteracting the chloroquine, but in fact only counteracts the seizures it causes.

 

[NotWhatIExpected]

I am staying away from the capsules method because I do not want to delay the absorption of the SN. Good idea on the diazepam, but just wondering if the amount is overkill and my concern with that is that it will induce vomiting. I do get it that you'd want to be knocked out asap.

I was originally going with N but A scammed me. I have two bottles of N and it isn't enough and so I have to go with Plan B, SN. He didn't send what he promised. I believe he sent half as much. The bottles are clear plastic with zero labeling so I actually am not sure what I have but I believe it to be only 6 grams.

Who is A?

 

[GinaIsReady]

Who is A?

Alejandro is how he is known. Mexico. I get the impression this is where most people get their N but he started scamming in December. Several of us were effected.

 

[NotWhatIExpected]

Alejandro is how he is known. Mexico. I get the impression this is where most people get their N but he started scamming in December. Several of us were effected.

So the N never came or it just came but was bogus?

Was it confirmed that anyone ever really got it from him?

 

[Terminally ill]

I am staying away from the capsules method because I do not want to delay the absorption of the SN. Good idea on the diazepam, but just wondering if the amount is overkill and my concern with that is that it will induce vomiting. I do get it that you'd want to be knocked out asap.

I was originally going with N but A scammed me. I have two bottles of N and it isn't enough and so I have to go with Plan B, SN. He didn't send what he promised. I believe he sent half as much. The bottles are clear plastic with zero labeling so I actually am not sure what I have but I believe it to be only 6 grams.

Do u mind sending me a PM ?I am looking into buying N and I'd like a personal experience.

 

[esben350]

Alejandro is how he is known. Mexico. I get the impression this is where most people get their N but he started scamming in December. Several of us were effected.

Alejandro is not as cammer.
Someone just ordered recently and got their 2 bottles of 100ml of pure N

i.e see the megathread

 

[james244]

some people were indeed scammed by av