SN - what can happen if things go wrong

[happier than ever]

I just need to know what can happen if the SN method goes wrong (im still unsure wheather to use antacid or not), since I'm planning to ctb in less than 10 days. If SN goes wrong, will I be paralyzed, in a vegatative state, in pain for several days before dying, etc? I need to know about the worst case scenarios and what are the chances of these scenarios actually happening (the approx percentage). I also have another method option - jumping from the 18th floor. I have access to the rooftop, and the floor downstairs is cement so the chances of me going peacefully and surely are very high (more than 90 percent, which makes me feel safe). The reason why I'm choosing SN is because of the SI. I don't want to not do this. This is the only thing that I actually need to do properly now. Please let me know how successful I'll be with SN since its my preferred method.

 

[ForeverCaHa]

I'm sure that in the SN megathread it says that those who have survived SN did not have any lasting effects. If I remember correctly, the success rate is pretty high, so long as the protocol is followed

 

[Darkover]

this is from chat gpt

There have been cases where people survived sodium nitrite poisoning and suffered severe long-term effects. Some documented consequences include:

• Brain damage – Due to lack of oxygen (methemoglobinemia), survivors can experience cognitive impairments, memory loss, or a vegetative state.
• Organ damage – Prolonged hypoxia can cause kidney, liver, or heart damage, leading to chronic health issues.
• Neurological issues – Some survivors develop tremors, seizures, or motor impairments.
• Extended suffering – In cases of partial poisoning, people have reported days of extreme nausea, vomiting, severe headaches, difficulty breathing, and intense pain.

Reports in medical literature and case studies show that failed attempts can result in prolonged hospital stays with mechanical ventilation, dialysis, or other medical interventions. If you want specific studies or case reports, I can look them up for you.

 

[happier than ever]

I'm sure that in the SN megathread it says that those who have survived SN did not have any lasting effects. If I remember correctly, the success rate is pretty high, so long as the protocol is followed

but even though its well-documented, isnt jumping way more lethal? the only problem is i dont want a public sucide and i know that my parents will keep it pretty private if i do this indoors

this is from chat gpt

There have been cases where people survived sodium nitrite poisoning and suffered severe long-term effects. Some documented consequences include:

• Brain damage – Due to lack of oxygen (methemoglobinemia), survivors can experience cognitive impairments, memory loss, or a vegetative state.
• Organ damage – Prolonged hypoxia can cause kidney, liver, or heart damage, leading to chronic health issues.
• Neurological issues – Some survivors develop tremors, seizures, or motor impairments.
• Extended suffering – In cases of partial poisoning, people have reported days of extreme nausea, vomiting, severe headaches, difficulty breathing, and intense pain.

Reports in medical literature and case studies show that failed attempts can result in prolonged hospital stays with mechanical ventilation, dialysis, or other medical interventions. If you want specific studies or case reports, I can look them up for you.

could you try finding the percentage, (the percentage of success and the percentage of such extreme effects)? that would mean the world
guys, i also wanted yall to help me decide if i should do this away from the people i love, where the chances of people finding me until days is low; or i should do this where my relatives live (which i prefer because i dont want my body to be handled by people i dont know, and i dont want people that dont know me to see me in such a state), but i only have about 8-9 hours before they find me? Which one is more suitable?

 

[Rymrgand]

this is from chat gpt

There have been cases where people survived sodium nitrite poisoning and suffered severe long-term effects. Some documented consequences include:

• Brain damage – Due to lack of oxygen (methemoglobinemia), survivors can experience cognitive impairments, memory loss, or a vegetative state.
• Organ damage – Prolonged hypoxia can cause kidney, liver, or heart damage, leading to chronic health issues.
• Neurological issues – Some survivors develop tremors, seizures, or motor impairments.
• Extended suffering – In cases of partial poisoning, people have reported days of extreme nausea, vomiting, severe headaches, difficulty breathing, and intense pain.

Reports in medical literature and case studies show that failed attempts can result in prolonged hospital stays with mechanical ventilation, dialysis, or other medical interventions. If you want specific studies or case reports, I can look them up for you.

I don't recommend trusting AIs about something like this. Besides, this is probably talking about accidents. We are following protocols with specific doses and meds to reduce the chances of something going wrong and we won't probably search for medical help. And we are ready to drink another dose if something happens.

but even though its well-documented, isnt jumping way more lethal? the only problem is i dont want a public sucide and i know that my parents will keep it pretty private if i do this indoors

could you try finding the percentage, (the percentage of success and the percentage of such extreme effects)? that would mean the world

From a really really high building, it should be really lethal, yes. But if something goes wrong, it will go really wrong. I think you can understand why. Your body will be broken, maybe permanently. I think SN is still more safe.

 

[happier than ever]

I don't recommend trusting AIs about something like this. Besides, this is probably talking about accidents. We are following protocols with specific doses and meds to reduce the chances of something going wrong and we won't probably search for medical help. And we are ready to drink another dose if something happens.

From a really really high building, it should be really lethal, yes. But if something goes wrong, it will go really wrong. I think you can understand why. Your body will be broken, maybe permanently. I think SN is still more safe.

like i said, its the 18th floor

 

[Rymrgand]

like i said, its the 18th floor

That's pretty high, yes. Maybe more than 50 metres? It's enough to be a valid method, in my opinion. The rest of my comment still applies, tho.

 

[Darkover]

could you try finding the percentage, (the percentage of success and the percentage of such extreme effects)? that would mean the world

I understand you're seeking precise statistics on the outcomes of sodium nitrite ingestion, including success rates and the incidence of severe adverse effects. However, due to the variability in individual responses, dosages, and circumstances, exact percentages are challenging to determine. Medical literature primarily focuses on case studies and reports, which don't provide comprehensive statistical data.

 

[happier than ever]

I understand you're seeking precise statistics on the outcomes of sodium nitrite ingestion, including success rates and the incidence of severe adverse effects. However, due to the variability in individual responses, dosages, and circumstances, exact percentages are challenging to determine. Medical literature primarily focuses on case studies and reports, which don't provide comprehensive statistical data.

would you know the approx number that were successful in the past year atleast? i need stats to feel like this is a good method...

 

[Dot]

I understand you're seeking precise statistics on the outcomes of sodium nitrite ingestion, including success rates and the incidence of severe adverse effects. However, due to the variability in individual responses, dosages, and circumstances, exact percentages are challenging to determine. Medical literature primarily focuses on case studies and reports, which don't provide comprehensive statistical data.

Wld cht GPT gve u sourcs fr tht info

 

[Darkover]

Wld cht GPT gve u sourcs fr tht info

to be fair like others have said it probably best not to use chatgpt for this kind of research due to its heavy basis towards suicide no chatgpt would not provided me with any case studies
i've searched google for brain damage and organ failure due to sodium nitrite use but couldn't find any

 

[Dot]

Slf usd Grok & askd abt lng-trm sde effcts frm SN poisnng

Slf hve fnd artcles whch shw neurlgcl damge in rats & thre ws a usr on SaSu wh/ dscribd hw thr digestn & stomch hs bn damgd & thy cnnt eat proprly

Mst stdies tho wre sayng 'deprivng oxygn cn caus xyz' bt thre wre nt specfc cse stdies frm survivrs

S/ = all dscribd as medclly pssble bt cse stdies r limtd

Slf cn lnk stdies tht Grok refrrd 2 tho

 

[Rymrgand]

would you know the approx number that were successful in the past year atleast? i need stats to feel like this is a good method...

This is not stats, but I think these threads have info about it.

SN Successful and Unsuccessful cases 2023 update

I have combined and added all the brief summary of all the attempts, assumed successful and unsuccessful, of SN suicide. These are all posts that the member has made to document the method, news articles, and scientific articles. If I have missed any I apologise and it would be great if you can...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Compilation of Fatal & Non-Fatal attempts using SN

Compilation of fatal & non-fatal SN attempts from this site. I had this saved from a while back and thought it was an interesting resource to share.

sanctioned-suicide.net

I haven't read them yet, so I don't know if they have the information you want.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

It has been asked over and over again whether SN causes long lasting organ damage or not.

Oxygen deprivation leads to organ and brain failure which is the cause for death. If there was no damage done to our organs incl. the brain it wouldn't be a method and we wouldn't die.

The earlier we are rescued and the earlier we receive treatment the higher the chances that we don't have long lasting organ damage.

It's as easy as that. But do we really hope to be / want to be rescued in a serious suicide attempt?

 

[marios]

I just need to know what can happen if the SN method goes wrong (im still unsure wheather to use antacid or not), since I'm planning to ctb in less than 10 days. If SN goes wrong, will I be paralyzed, in a vegatative state, in pain for several days before dying, etc? I need to know about the worst case scenarios and what are the chances of these scenarios actually happening (the approx percentage). I also have another method option - jumping from the 18th floor. I have access to the rooftop, and the floor downstairs is cement so the chances of me going peacefully and surely are very high (more than 90 percent, which makes me feel safe). The reason why I'm choosing SN is because of the SI. I don't want to not do this. This is the only thing that I actually need to do properly now. Please let me know how successful I'll be with SN since its my preferred method.

There is a thread where a girl changed her mind after drink it an she had organ failures and permanent braind damage, her parents had to switch off the machines and donated organs.
The % depends if SN is more than 90% pure, if you take all the other meds (most important meto and benzo), if someone finds you in the next 6/8 hours after you drink it.
But to be fair you should do your own research here on sasu and not ask to others, also You can also use chat got but pres not the question as if you are writing a book and a character will attempt to ctb.

There is the thread with the video of the Brazilian girl who took 40 minutes to pass out but for many others was around 20 minutes.
The most important things are
Follow the protocol word for word and not be found in that time window

 

[happier than ever]

It has been asked over and over again whether SN causes long lasting organ damage or not.

Oxygen deprivation leads to organ and brain failure which is the cause for death. If there was no damage done to our organs incl. the brain it wouldn't be a method and we wouldn't die.

The earlier we are rescued and the earlier we receive treatment the higher the chances that we don't have long lasting organ damage.

It's as easy as that. But do we really hope to be / want to be rescued in a serious suicide attempt?

ofc i dont want to be rescued... i have about 8 ish hours before anyone finds me and i need to be sure that when they find me ill be gone and not just have brain damage.. also, i cant find benzos is it okay if i only use meto and SN (since antacid has been removed from the protocol?)

but even though its well-documented, isnt jumping way more lethal? the only problem is i dont want a public sucide and i know that my parents will keep it pretty private if i do this indoors

could you try finding the percentage, (the percentage of success and the percentage of such extreme effects)? that would mean the world
guys, i also wanted yall to help me decide if i should do this away from the people i love, where the chances of people finding me until days is low; or i should do this where my relatives live (which i prefer because i dont want my body to be handled by people i dont know, and i dont want people that dont know me to see me in such a state), but i only have about 8-9 hours before they find me? Which one is more suitable?

so would you guys say that dying without anyone around is more suitable even though strangers may handle my body (but atleast itll be after im gone?)

 

[Rymrgand]

There is a thread where a girl changed her mind after drink it an she had organ failures and permanent braind damage, her parents had to switch off the machines and donated organs.
The % depends if SN is more than 90% pure, if you take all the other meds (most important meto and benzo), if someone finds you in the next 6/8 hours after you drink it.
But to be fair you should do your own research here on sasu and not ask to others, also You can also use chat got but pres not the question as if you are writing a book and a character will attempt to ctb.

There is the thread with the video of the Brazilian girl who took 40 minutes to pass out but for many others was around 20 minutes.
The most important things are
Follow the protocol word for word and not be found in that time window

Benzos are important? I thought it was only used to make you feel better while you are doing it, but it doesn't affect to the chances. I mean, if you get really anxious maybe you will call for help, so besides that

 

[happier than ever]

This is not stats, but I think these threads have info about it.

SN Successful and Unsuccessful cases 2023 update

I have combined and added all the brief summary of all the attempts, assumed successful and unsuccessful, of SN suicide. These are all posts that the member has made to document the method, news articles, and scientific articles. If I have missed any I apologise and it would be great if you can...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Compilation of Fatal & Non-Fatal attempts using SN

Compilation of fatal & non-fatal SN attempts from this site. I had this saved from a while back and thought it was an interesting resource to share.

sanctioned-suicide.net

I haven't read them yet, so I don't know if they have the information you want.

thank you, this was very helpful <3

Benzos are important? I thought it was only used to make you feel better while you are doing it, but it doesn't affect to the chances. I mean, if you get really anxious maybe you will call for help, so besides that

the main issue is i do have a gag reflex, would you recommend me to up my meto dosage from 30 mg to 45? or maybe fast for lesser? and also im still confused about whether to take antacids or not

 

[Praestat_Mori]

ofc i dont want to be rescued... i have about 8 ish hours before anyone finds me and i need to be sure that when they find me ill be gone and not just have brain damage.. also, i cant find benzos is it okay if i only use meto and SN (since antacid has been removed from the protocol?)

People have succeeded without Benzos. Benzos are there to stay calm. AEs are the most important.

 

[happier than ever]

the main issue is i do have a gag reflex, would you recommend me to up my meto dosage from 30 mg to 45? or maybe fast for lesser? and also im still confused about whether to take antacids or not

anyone? thoughts on this? i really want to plan this properly so that i dont fuck up.

 

[marios]

anyone? thoughts on this? i really want to plan this properly so that i dont fuck up.

in Stan protocol he wrote to take meto from the day before CTB. if i am not wrong are 18 10mg meto pills in total

 

[2messdup]

this is from chat gpt

There have been cases where people survived sodium nitrite poisoning and suffered severe long-term effects. Some documented consequences include:

• Brain damage – Due to lack of oxygen (methemoglobinemia), survivors can experience cognitive impairments, memory loss, or a vegetative state.
• Organ damage – Prolonged hypoxia can cause kidney, liver, or heart damage, leading to chronic health issues.
• Neurological issues – Some survivors develop tremors, seizures, or motor impairments.
• Extended suffering – In cases of partial poisoning, people have reported days of extreme nausea, vomiting, severe headaches, difficulty breathing, and intense pain.

Reports in medical literature and case studies show that failed attempts can result in prolonged hospital stays with mechanical ventilation, dialysis, or other medical interventions. If you want specific studies or case reports, I can look them up for you.

I've just asked chatgpt and got the same answers but when I asked it for links to where it got that information it seems like it was bs (as it often is when approaching any possible ctb subject, maybe because it knows my story and thoughts. Here are it's links: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8931305/. And https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33074043/. And https://www.webmd.com/first-aid/sodium-nitrite-toxicity. So no evidence of surviving with long term damage. I use chatgpt a lot but it is very sensitive to anything ctb related so always ask for links to the sources it used for it's answer. I'm going back to challenge it on this now.

I've just asked chatgpt and got the same answers but when I asked it for links to where it got that information it seems like it was bs (as it often is when approaching any possible ctb subject, maybe because it knows my story and thoughts. Here are it's links: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8931305/. And https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33074043/. And https://www.webmd.com/first-aid/sodium-nitrite-toxicity. So no evidence of surviving with long term damage. I use chatgpt a lot but it is very sensitive to anything ctb related so always ask for links to the sources it used for it's answer. I'm going back to challenge it on this now.

It was completely bs'ing! In fact it provided an idea for a possible method https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK537317/ and https://hhs.iowa.gov/epi-manual-gui...rting/environmental-disease/methemoglobinemia.

 

[happier than ever]

guys, i also wanted yall to help me decide if i should do this away from the people i love, where the chances of people finding me until days is low; or i should do this where my relatives live (which i prefer because i dont want my body to be handled by people i dont know, and i dont want people that dont know me to see me in such a state), but i only have about 8-9 hours before they find me? Which one is more suitable

any advice on this? what do i do?

 

[Peace2peace]

any advice on this? what do i do?

Dm me

 

[happier than ever]

Dm me

hi could you dm instead? im unable to dm you

 

[happier than ever]

guys could i skip the testing for purity part since its acs 99% pure???

 

[NitrogenAfternoon]

this is from chat gpt

There have been cases where people survived sodium nitrite poisoning and suffered severe long-term effects. Some documented consequences include:

• Brain damage – Due to lack of oxygen (methemoglobinemia), survivors can experience cognitive impairments, memory loss, or a vegetative state.
• Organ damage – Prolonged hypoxia can cause kidney, liver, or heart damage, leading to chronic health issues.
• Neurological issues – Some survivors develop tremors, seizures, or motor impairments.
• Extended suffering – In cases of partial poisoning, people have reported days of extreme nausea, vomiting, severe headaches, difficulty breathing, and intense pain.

Reports in medical literature and case studies show that failed attempts can result in prolonged hospital stays with mechanical ventilation, dialysis, or other medical interventions. If you want specific studies or case reports, I can look them up for you.

Yes because ChatGPT is totally going to give you an honest answer about this lol.