Venting SN stuck at customs. I hate this world

[Capsaicin78]

Once again I am reminded of why I hate this world so much. SN is currently stuck at customs.
I really don't want to deal with this whole legal bullshit. Why. Why in gods name can't people exit peacefully.

Pray with me that its just delayed.
(and also that I finally grow the balls to end it all lol).

 

[👁️👃👁️]

You're in the US?

 

[cfcfcfcf]

What were the origin and destination countries?

 

[jodes2]

Oh man fingers crossed for you, good luck

Man I hope my SN gets through

 

[FuneralCry]

It really is frustrating how things can go wrong when we are planning ctb and I also hate this world that makes it so difficult for us to die. I wish you the best and I hope that things go the way that you want them to.

 

[Capsaicin78]

What were the origin and destination countries?

Origin is IC. Destination is Germany. ( yeah I know, should have ordered from a polish company)

 

[jodes2]

Origin is IC. Destination is Germany. ( yeah I know, should have ordered from a polish company)

What's IC? Sorry., I'm being dense

 

[Capsaicin78]

What's IC? Sorry., I'm being dense

It's an international source for sn. Can't name the exact company tho'. It's against forum rules

 

[Capsaicin78]

GUYS!
Customs released my SN today.


Feeling very reliefed rn haha

 

[Funeralprincess]

Once again I am reminded of why I hate this world so much. SN is currently stuck at customs.
I really don't want to deal with this whole legal bullshit. Why. Why in gods name can't people exit peacefully.

Pray with me that its just delayed.
(and also that I finally grow the balls to end it all lol).

Well Sn is far from peaceful, but yes you deserve to exit if you want and how you want to

 

[gimzero]

Where i live nobody use sn jusr hanging method only me i will try with that.

 

[Capsaicin78]

Well Sn is far from peaceful, but yes you deserve to exit if you want and how you want to

true unfortunately...but it's a 100 times better than hanging or drowning.

 

[SofterSoftest]

Well Sn is far from peaceful, but yes you deserve to exit if you want and how you want to

Seems like an unnecessary and unfair comment. Most of us would obviously opt for N if we could have it.

 

[Funeralprincess]

save your emotional response for someone else. I was stating the truth and as much as you enjoy being lied to, others dont, babes

 

[Mofreeko]

save your emotional response for someone else. I was stating the truth and as much as you enjoy being lied to, others dont, babes

Ok, what's your reasoning for saying SN isn't peaceful? From all the successful and even the unsuccessful accounts I've read it seems that the worst of it is nausea/vomiting and an increased heartrate. And that's only for 20 minutes or so until you're unconscious. Really, I hate to be rude but people like you are really frustrating to deal with on here. Stoking fear of a painful death to the best ctb method available that's cheap and far more accessible than N.

 

[SofterSoftest]

Ok, what's your reasoning for saying SN isn't peaceful? From all the successful and even the unsuccessful accounts I've read it seems that the worst of it is nausea/vomiting and an increased heartrate. And that's only for 20 minutes or so until you're unconscious. Really, I hate to be rude but people like you are really frustrating to deal with on here. Stoking fear of a painful death to the best ctb method available that's cheap and far more accessible than N.

I actually think SN is far from ideal. There are pitfalls to SN that are often overlooked on this forum and that is why SN is my back-up and not my first available choice. I'm likely going to have to resort to an amitriptyline OD because my N was confiscated at customs - and I say this even though I have SN. To those wondering what I mean, I'm mostly talking about the potential for organ damage in the event of SN failure, and things like nausea and elevated heartbeat (which for me would flare up my SI, but some people could deal with those things just fine). I think if you're going to go for SN, you just need to make sure it really will be successful on the first attempt and you have a plan for dealing with symptoms that you think could lead to a failed attempt.

I just think people like @Funeralprincess who already have N should probably not crash other people's threads and tell them things about SN being "far from peaceful" because it's unhelpful and pours salt in wounds. Nothing "emotional" about pointing this out.

 

[Mofreeko]

I actually think SN is far from ideal. There are pitfalls to SN that are often overlooked on this forum and that is why SN is my back-up and not my first available choice. I'm likely going to have to resort to an amitriptyline OD because my N was confiscated at customs - and I say this even though I have SN. To those wondering what I mean, I'm mostly talking about the potential for organ damage in the event of SN failure, and things like nausea and elevated heartbeat (which for me would flare up my SI, but some people could deal with those things just fine). I think if you're going to go for SN, you just need to make sure it really will be successful on the first attempt and you have a plan for dealing with symptoms that you think could lead to a failed attempt.

I just think people like @Funeralprincess who already have N should probably not crash other people's threads and tell them things about SN being "far from peaceful" because it's unhelpful and pours salt in wounds. Nothing "emotional" about pointing this out.

The PPeH puts it around a 7 for peacefulness and in my opinion if you can't handle a little discomfort during your ctb then you're not ready to ctb. As for the risk of organ damage that could be said about almost every suicide method in existence if you survive the attempt. Every survivor of SN I've read about on here, even the ones that didn't go to hospital, said they felt completely normal after a few days.

 

[Funeralprincess]

Ok, what's your reasoning for saying SN isn't peaceful? From all the successful and even the unsuccessful accounts I've read it seems that the worst of it is nausea/vomiting and an increased heartrate. And that's only for 20 minutes or so until you're unconscious. Really, I hate to be rude but people like you are really frustrating to deal with on here. Stoking fear of a painful death to the best ctb method available that's cheap and far more accessible than N.

Cry about it ;)

I actually think SN is far from ideal. There are pitfalls to SN that are often overlooked on this forum and that is why SN is my back-up and not my first available choice. I'm likely going to have to resort to an amitriptyline OD because my N was confiscated at customs - and I say this even though I have SN. To those wondering what I mean, I'm mostly talking about the potential for organ damage in the event of SN failure, and things like nausea and elevated heartbeat (which for me would flare up my SI, but some people could deal with those things just fine). I think if you're going to go for SN, you just need to make sure it really will be successful on the first attempt and you have a plan for dealing with symptoms that you think could lead to a failed attempt.

I just think people like @Funeralprincess who already have N should probably not crash other people's threads and tell them things about SN being "far from peaceful" because it's unhelpful and pours salt in wounds. Nothing "emotional" about pointing this out.

You act like I just magically had N laying around when I had to jump through hoops to obtain it in the first place. Cry about it sweetie ;)

 

[Mofreeko]

Cry about it ;)

You act like I just magically had N laying around when I had to jumpy through hoops to obtain it in the first place. Cry about it sweetie ;)

Yes, very valid and informative points. Your contribution to this forum is invaluable.

 

[want2dienow]

save your emotional response for someone else. I was stating the truth and as much as you enjoy being lied to, others dont, babes

Truely? It's not more peaceful than blowing head off via firearm? Or mangled by a train, throat slitting, heart stabbing, ?
It's peaceful simply by the fact it has no messy gore.

 

[SofterSoftest]

The PPeH puts it around a 7 for peacefulness and in my opinion if you can't handle a little discomfort during your ctb then you're not ready to ctb. As for the risk of organ damage that could be said about almost every suicide method in existence if you survive the attempt. Every survivor of SN I've read about on here, even the ones that didn't go to hospital, said they felt completely normal after a few days.

All valid points. I guess nausea/vomiting are just personally really uncomfortable for me, and I do worry that my SN attempt will fail for those reasons, which may then lead to me dealing with long-term effects. But you're right that objectively SN is much more peaceful than many other methods.

 

[tired868686]

All valid points. I guess nausea/vomiting are just personally really uncomfortable for me, and I do worry that my SN attempt will fail for those reasons, which may then lead to me dealing with long-term effects. But you're right that objectively SN is much more peaceful than many other methods.

I'm not sure you understand what a TCA overdose is like. It's not as peaceful as you might think and it can lead to organ damage as well.
Any which way of poisoning yourself to death will come with uncomfortable and distressing effects. That's the case with any method of death.
Dying is a process, there's no blunt lights out with poisoning.
Having said that, I wish you all the best in whatever you choose to do!

 

[Funeralprincess]

Truely? It's not more peaceful than blowing head off via firearm? Or mangled by a train, throat slitting, heart stabbing, ?
It's peaceful simply by the fact it has no messy gore.

If you're comparing it to other things of course it's going to be more peaceful. That doesn't mean it's the most peaceful and people should be educated on that. You forget I had two people close to me who were hospitalized because of SN. Your extreme comparisons are a weak way of arguing/debating, and also not everyone is choosing to commit by gun, stabbing, or train, but if you are going to use extreme comparisons, stick with a firearm since THATS the most common. Most suicides are carried out by firearms more than the other methods you listed and that has been studied. Not everyone is out here on the regular stabbing their heart and train jumping in comparison to a gun. Grow up.

 

[tired868686]

If you're comparing it to other things of course it's going to be more peaceful. That doesn't mean it's the most peaceful and people should be educated on that. You forget I had two people close to me who were hospitalized because of SN. Your extreme comparisons are a weak way of arguing/debating, and also not everyone is choosing to commit by gun, stabbing, or train.

What happened to them? The People you knew who were hospitalised?

 

[Funeralprincess]

Yes, very valid and informative points. Your contribution to this forum is invaluable.

hmmm yes educating people is invaluable, no matter how emotional and triggered it may get you

What happened to them? The People you knew who were hospitalised?

The first person I knew (they were actually very close to my friend who committed this year) had extreme abdominal pain and nausea. She said the abdominal pain was the worst part of it and described it as a twisting type of feeling, almost like appendicitis (if you've never had that, it fucking hurts). The other person I knew who was hospitalized said they too had issues with abdominal pain as well has a pounding feeling in their head, almost like a very intense migraine. They said that they felt like they were drowning in a sense.
The one who was very close with my friend who committed this year is still in the hospital. Keep in mind I only found out about them doing this through a social media post, which made me sad. I don't judge their choice to want to leave, but it did shock me because them? I didn't really expect them to ever be suicidal but that's the thing you just never know. I'm hoping they don't send her to a psych facility because she doesn't do well in those and she wouldn't be happy there, but that's the direction they're leaning towards :/

 

[HumansAreHell]

All valid points. I guess nausea/vomiting are just personally really uncomfortable for me, and I do worry that my SN attempt will fail for those reasons, which may then lead to me dealing with long-term effects. But you're right that objectively SN is much more peaceful than many other methods.

I understand the concerns, I think it's one of those subjective things. Some people handle nausea/vomiting better than others. In the end I guess what matters is for people to pick the best method for themselves. I personally think SN is the method I will use, but obviously that's different for everyone.

 

[tired868686]

hmmm yes educating people is invaluable, no matter how emotional and triggered it may get you

The first person I knew (they were actually very close to my friend who committed this year) had extreme abdominal pain and nausea. She said the abdominal pain was the worst part of it and described it as a twisting type of feeling, almost like appendicitis (if you've never had that, it fucking hurts). The other person I knew who was hospitalized said they too had issues with abdominal pain as well has a pounding feeling in their head, almost like a very intense migraine. They said that they felt like they were drowning in a sense.
The one who was very close with my friend who committed this year is still in the hospital. Keep in mind I only found out about them doing this through a social media post, which made me sad. I don't judge their choice to want to leave, but it did shock me because them? I didn't really expect them to ever be suicidal but that's the thing you just never know. I'm hoping they don't send her to a psych facility because she doesn't do well in those and she wouldn't be happy there, but that's the direction they're leaning towards :/

Thanks for your reply.
I'm very sorry for your friends troubles!
I hope they can find some hope somewhere.

 

[Mofreeko]

hmmm yes educating people is invaluable, no matter how emotional and triggered it may get you

The first person I knew (they were actually very close to my friend who committed this year) had extreme abdominal pain and nausea. She said the abdominal pain was the worst part of it and described it as a twisting type of feeling, almost like appendicitis (if you've never had that, it fucking hurts). The other person I knew who was hospitalized said they too had issues with abdominal pain as well has a pounding feeling in their head, almost like a very intense migraine. They said that they felt like they were drowning in a sense.
The one who was very close with my friend who committed this year is still in the hospital. Keep in mind I only found out about them doing this through a social media post, which made me sad. I don't judge their choice to want to leave, but it did shock me because them? I didn't really expect them to ever be suicidal but that's the thing you just never know. I'm hoping they don't send her to a psych facility because she doesn't do well in those and she wouldn't be happy there, but that's the direction they're leaning towards :/

I think I'll trust the PPeH and the myriad of first hand accounts reported here and on the wiki than your anecdotal accounts that can't be verified by anyone but you.

 

[Funeralprincess]

I think I'll trust the PPeH and the myriad of first hand accounts reported here and on the wiki than your anecdotal accounts that can't be verified by anyone but you.

I really do not care what you go by. Every time someone attempts suicide doesn't mean it's documented for the public. As sick as you are in the head to want that, that's not how it works at ALL and there's legal and personal reasons for that

Thanks for your reply.
I'm very sorry for your friends troubles!
I hope they can find some hope somewhere.

It's alright. I'm just hoping they don't send her to another facility because if she does decide to try and recover she's be better off getting individualized care instead of group settings.

 

[Mofreeko]

I really do not care what you go by. Every time someone attempts suicide doesn't mean it's documented for the public. As sick as you are in the head to want that, that's not how it works at ALL and there's legal and personal reasons for that

So instead of going by actual documented proof, I need to factor in every possible thing that MIGHT have happened that no one ever saw or heard about. Great logic there. All that I've gathered from this is that you say SN is "far from peaceful" despite what the PPeH or the documented cases say, because you say so. In other words "just trust me bro".