SN is a lot of tasks/patience, you must be motivated a lot

[FigEnjoyer]

Gun = you can recharge the ammo anytime and when you have 1 second of motivation, CTB

Jumping = if you have a location, you go there and when you have 1 second of motivation, CTB

But SN = location, you go there, you have to cut the plastic around the SN (5 seconds), you have to take a recipient from your bag (2 seconds) and put the SN in it (3 seconds) and mix a little (3 seconds) and then you have to drink it all (because it's salty, it takes longer than a normal drink) so 5 seconds and then you have to wait 10 whole minutes of fighting your SI to not call an ambulance (that's only if you're the type of person to have a panic attack, because you know how that feel when you lost control under fear). And I was taking a fast person as reference, not everybody will do all that preparation in 13 seconds.

So 10 minutes and 13 seconds of motivation, that's sooo long, I don't know if I could do it one day.

Do you think you can do it one day?

 

[kitkat9234]

I'm hoping I can. I'm just worried about throwing it up. I can't get my hands on the right antiemetics. I already have GERD and some of my meds already cause nausea. Planning on stopping those a few days before though. And I'm probably going to prepare a few doses just in case I throw the first one up. I just hope I can absorb enough to CTB.

Im having anxiety over the whole process though. Scared I'm going to fuck it up and fail once again…….

 

[Forveleth]

You are greatly misjudging the other methods. Guns in many places require an application and a three-day waiting period to acquire. You have to get to a gun store or trade show, pick your model, get your ammo, get home, learn how to load it, and then you are at the point that you say.

With jumping, you have to keep motivation all the way to your jumping spot. You have to keep your eyes peeled in the survey for people who may try to stop you. Then when you are ready to go, you have to overcome a huge amount of SI compared to many other methods.

You are also forgetting for SN you need to fast for at least 8 hours beforehand. But SN is also a time-tested, incredibly reliable method, which makes it very appealing to people. If you are ready to die, the motivation will come. It does not matter if your method takes a couple of seconds or days.

 

[FigEnjoyer]

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You are greatly misjudging the other methods. Guns in many places require an application and a three-day waiting period to acquire. You have to get to a gun store or trade show, pick your model, get your ammo, get home, learn how to load it, and then you are at the point that you say.

With jumping, you have to keep motivation all the way to your jumping spot. You have to keep your eyes peeled in the survey for people who may try to stop you. Then when you are ready to go, you have to overcome a huge amount of SI compared to many other methods.

You are also forgetting for SN you need to fast for at least 8 hours beforehand. But SN is also a time-tested, incredibly reliable method, which makes it very appealing to people. If you are ready to die, the motivation will come. It does not matter if your method takes a couple of seconds or days.

I agree with keeping the motivation all along until jumping.

But for the gun, you can do all that and put the gun in a box and wait 3 months, I'm only talking about the motivation for the final moments.

But SN you can't prepare the solution in water and wait 3 months, it will "rot".

If I'm talking like you, then buying SN is as stressful as buying a gun because if the wellfare check find the SN, you end up jailed in mental hospital. But that's only if the source is in another country, for the ones who haves SN source in their own country then it's not stressful but that was not my point because I already passed that. Only talking about the motivation needed for the final moments as I said.

Maybe I'm working differently than you but I have like 3 seconds max of ""free-will" before my brain goes in SI mode. So SN seems so hard compared to just pulling a trigger. I know you would think "This guy would not have the balls to pull the trigger", but in my 3 seconds, I would do it, SN is a little more than that.

 

[bambibambam]

there's a reason why people still prefer SN even if they have those options, theres a plethora of reasons actually, but for me SN is the best option because it's not messy at all AND you can turn back at any moment without having to worry about becoming braindead, brutally dismembered or a vegetable.

 

[RinneOfAragon]

I really feel SN is the method for me based on just how effective it is and I can do it in privacy. Hanging I have my concerns. I do know of someone (not someone I knew personally but lived in my area) and they did get cut down too early. And in my research I found quite a few that went wrong. I'm just not confident enough, I feel like I'd mess up. My issue with SN now is how to source it. As I'm in the UK I will have to get creative and that's hard to do when life is throwing stuff at you and you are barely staying afloat.

 

[Catch-22]

Gun = you can recharge the ammo anytime and when you have 1 second of motivation, CTB

Jumping = if you have a location, you go there and when you have 1 second of motivation, CTB

But SN = location, you go there, you have to cut the plastic around the SN (5 seconds), you have to take a recipient from your bag (2 seconds) and put the SN in it (3 seconds) and mix a little (3 seconds) and then you have to drink it all (because it's salty, it takes longer than a normal drink) so 5 seconds and then you have to wait 10 whole minutes of fighting your SI to not call an ambulance (that's only if you're the type of person to have a panic attack, because you know how that feel when you lost control under fear). And I was taking a fast person as reference, not everybody will do all that preparation in 13 seconds.

So 10 minutes and 13 seconds of motivation, that's sooo long, I don't know if I could do it one day.

Do you think you can do it one day?

For me having to stop and measure out the 25 g without contaminating any surfaces getting it everywhere shaking anxiety so forth is going to be the biggest obstacle. I want to be able to maybe weigh it out on another day and have it ready in a ziplock that way I could just put it in water and chug it down. I'm just so afraid that it will lose effectively even though I know it's been known to be pretty stable for short periods of time. Mine came in a vacuum sealed plastic bag and I've had it about a year and a half..

 

[strawberry931]

If I could get SN then I would use it along with charcoal burning in my car. The CO will make you unconscious quickly before the SN has any effects.

 

[Zardoz]

Couple of points:

Guns are illegal in many countries. They are very hard to come by on the black criminal market and you get long prison sentences for owning one or even just attempting to buy one. The bullets are even harder to get (in the UK).
Don't assume everyone is in the US. Many of the people discussing other methods on here (like SN) are not in the US and don't have easy access to guns. Many wish they did though.

SN is legal in most countries still. (That maybe be changing and as we know it's getting harder to get generally).
You do not get jailed for owning or buying it. The welfare checks are just that - "welfare" checks, not a "raid". You have done nothing wrong by sourcing, buying or owning it. If they think you are at immediate risk of harming yourself then they will intervene "for your own safety". That's why using online privacy and security (like VPNs) is useful to cover your online activity and having a cover story as to why you want the SN - it has many uses in normal life and industry.

SI is a very real thing. Many people (myself included) will have stood on the edge of a train platform or tall building, utterly distraught, unable to go through with it. I have never handled a loaded gun, let alone put it to my head with the intention of pulling the trigger, but I don't think I could. Mixing something into a glass of water and drinking it seems a whole lot easier and less traumatic to many people.
But yes, the time immediately after taking it when panic and SI can kick in is a potential issue (for me certainly), but if protocol is followed it should only be a few minutes max.

Each to their own choice.
And yes, most people are very desperate, and motivated. It's likely one of the main reasons people find this site.

 

[Forever Sleep]

It's certainly more of a process than other methods- especially if you follow a recommended protocol. That also includes remembering to take other medications at the right time on the run up- antiemetics, pain killers, benzos- if we have them. There again, I think I'd find it easier to drink something in private rather than try sneaking on to a bridge at some random hour. Drinking I imagine will hopefully induce less SI than leaping off a great height. Not everyone has such easy access to guns. Plus, they'd leave such a mess I imagine for some poor sod to clean up. It depends really- where out prorities lie, as to which method we go for. I doubt any are all that easy though. We know we're about to kill ourselves and, we know it could go wrong- with horrible consequences.

 

[Defenestration]

It takes much longer for SN than you say. You must have already fasted for a good 8 hours. Then you must weigh the SN. Mix everything well; this takes time. Make a second glass. Beforehand, you must have taken antiemetics in the morning, at noon, and 1 hour before. Take a little benzodiazepine beforehand. It requires a whole day of motivation.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

it might take as long as 15 minutes to fight si to not call an ambulance after drinking Sn ("you have to wait 10 whole minutes of fighting your SI to not call an ambulance ").

but yeah seems like at least 10 minutes to fight si after drinking sn . i need to go see that video and download it the Joe Winko Sn video if they haven't totally scrubbed it from the internet yet

a gun i have it loaded. Just have to aim and fire. but still irrationally fear failing or pain when at 3000 feet per second bullet there can be no pain

I think maybe 1.having the gun and lots of books to catch the bullet ready to go .2. then aim at my head . 3.take the safety off. 4. then see if I can get myself to pull the trigger . 5.
keep repeating these 5 steps, keep trying until I do it

 

[Defenestration]

Joe Winko ? Où est-il, s'il vous plaît ?
Send me please dm

 

[Zardoz]

It takes much longer for SN than you say. You must have already fasted for a good 8 hours. Then you must weigh the SN. Mix everything well; this takes time. Make a second glass. Beforehand, you must have taken antiemetics in the morning, at noon, and 1 hour before. Take a little benzodiazepine beforehand. It requires a whole day of motivation.

Yes. But I think the prep and process might actually be a relaxing and calm experience. Put on some favourite/peaceful tunes and just relax into it, knowing that everything will soon and finally be at peace.
I think when most people get to the actual event, they likely will have been planning it for months/years and have it all clear in their mind.
The (few) real time reports from people I've seen, they seem to be settled and calm, not stressed out at all.
Everyone is different of course, but I think this clarity of mind and calmness is a fairly common feature of any method/attempt.
edit: I also think people get too hung up the numbers for fasting and timing etc. Fast for a few hours minimum after a light meal is probably fine to make sure your stomach is empty. For me about 4-5 hrs seems to be Ok. Some reports say a light meal (say a piece of toast) a couple of hours before might actually help to soften the shock of the unfamiliar things the stomach will encounter and so actually help avoid vomiting, but most do seem to think that fasting completely is better. Then AE's about an hour before (the 2-day/all-day AE plan is not compulsory, the one-off STAT dose an hour before is also advised as being just as effective), benzos/sedatives (I don't have) just a bit before, then you're good to go.