SN hypotheticals

[heylightiforgot]

I have a few concerns about SN, primarily because of my chronic health condition and also my family living situation. In order to cope at home, I keep a very strict routine, as follows:

- Wake up approx 2-3pm

- Have 1-2 cups of coffee and then fast until about 10pm and eat a meal

- Rest for a few hours (because eating exhausts me), then eat again at 1.30am

- Rest until 5/6am, then prepare food and (try to) sleep

Basically, I have to eat at each of these allocated points in order to mitigate a chronic-fatigue-related crash (even though, ironically, eating tires me out). So it would be impossible for me to commit to the 48-hour fasting regime. And if I wanted to CTB with SN, I would probably have to do it during the window when my family is asleep since someone is always at home during the day (like 3-6am), so I would have to follow my normal schedule re: eating etc. to try and remain functional for the day to get to that point.

So, I do have both SN and antiemetics, but am wondering if the method is something that can be pulled off in a more impromptu fashion? If I was going to try do it in a shorter window, what's the minimum I would need to fast, take anti-emetics etc.? Would it be ok to just not eat for a few hours, then take the meto?

My second concern is how poor my health is, especially my gut health. I guess that makes the SN more likely to kill me, but I also dread not keeping it down, because I CANNOT afford to fuck this up. As I said, I barely survived being in the psych ward last week due to my poor health and sincerely felt I could have died in there, and it would be horrible.

So yeah, feeling conflicted and overall just not comfortable with SN as a method, to be honest .. concerned about the 'peacefulness', preparation involved etc. but sadly I don't have any other options, unless I can figure out how to pull off partial suspension in the house.

 

[sleepy dog]

Why do you think you have to fast for 48 hours?

 

[Dubs]

You can fast for 8ish hours (probably a bit less is ok), then take a stat dose of meto, wait 15 minutes, take an anti-acid, wait 45 minutes, take the SN. That would work a very high percent of the time. I'm guessing you are low weight? That would make SN more effective at a lower dose, so easier to keep down. Also have an additional small SN drink ready to go if you throw up some of the first. You can't guarantee that will work but I would be confident enough to go this route.

 

[Stan]

You can fast for 8ish hours (probably a bit less is ok), then take a stat dose of meto, wait 15 minutes, take an anti-acid, wait 45 minutes, take the SN. That would work a very high percent of the time. I'm guessing you are low weight? That would make SN more effective at a lower dose, so easier to keep down. Also have an additional small SN drink ready to go if you throw up some of the first. You can't guarantee that will work but I would be confident enough to go this route.

I agree

 

[heylightiforgot]

You can fast for 8ish hours (probably a bit less is ok), then take a stat dose of meto, wait 15 minutes, take an anti-acid, wait 45 minutes, take the SN. That would work a very high percent of the time. I'm guessing you are low weight? That would make SN more effective at a lower dose, so easier to keep down. Also have an additional small SN drink ready to go if you throw up some of the first. You can't guarantee that will work but I would be confident enough to go this route.

The thing is I just don't know what particular day I might need to attempt and it could be impulsive. So presuming I have my 1am meal as normal, and then attempt a few hours later (4/5am) is 3 hours fasting not enough? Why do we have to fast 8 hours? And yes I am low weight.

 

[Dubs]

The thing is I just don't know what particular day I might need to attempt and it could be impulsive. So presuming I have my 1am meal as normal, and then attempt a few hours later (4/5am) is 3 hours fasting not enough? Why do we have to fast 8 hours? And yes I am low weight.

You need to take the SN on an empty stomach to have a high chance of success. 3 hours would be dangerously too little time to succeed. The fewest hours I would be comfortable doing would be 5 hours if the meal was pretty small. You can't really do most poisoning (SN/N) on a whim, they generally require 8 hours notice. You can always back out of the attempt. If you think it might work that day, start fasting and then just abandon the attempt for the day if things don't work out. Otherwise you will need to seek a different method.

 

[Strangeasangels]

Where to get meto that is authentic and causes no adverse effects? I cannot get through doctor

 

[heylightiforgot]

You need to take the SN on an empty stomach to have a high chance of success. 3 hours would be dangerously too little time to succeed. The fewest hours I would be comfortable doing would be 5 hours if the meal was pretty small. You can't really do most poisoning (SN/N) on a whim, they generally require 8 hours notice. You can always back out of the attempt. If you think it might work that day, start fasting and then just abandon the attempt for the day if things don't work out. Otherwise you will need to seek a different method.

Yeah that's what's bothering me about SN .. As I say, managing my health condition requires a very strict regimen and discipline, and I'm also constantly around family. Because of SI, the only way I think I could CTB is impulsively and if I decide to fast for 8 hours then not do it I'd be physically fucked. Being disabled/housebound isn't leaving me with any good choices sadly :( As I say, only other option is something like partial suspension but can't find anywhere decent to attach a belt.

 

[Dubs]

Yeah that's what's bothering me about SN .. As I say, managing my health condition requires a very strict regimen and discipline, and I'm also constantly around family. Because of SI, the only way I think I could CTB is impulsively and if I decide to fast for 8 hours then not do it I'd be physically fucked. Being disabled/housebound isn't leaving me with any good choices sadly :( As I say, only other option is something like partial suspension but can't find anywhere decent to attach a belt.

Wow your diet/digestion sounds really serious. What is the longest you sleep for? Say it is 4 hours, you could wake, up eat a small meal (toast/fruit) then 4 hours after that you would be clear to make a reasonable attempt if you were in the mood to ctb.

Also is it your stomach that is bad or your lowest digestion (intestines/colon)? If your stomach is that bad I would probably avoid oral poisonings all together, it seems like vomiting or permanent damage on a failed attempt could be serious.

If your personality is similar to mine (no violence), the best options after poisoning would be exit bag and then CO. However those would be pretty difficult to pull off given you are always around family.

 

[heylightiforgot]

Wow your diet/digestion sounds really serious. What is the longest you sleep for? Say it is 4 hours, you could wake, up eat a small meal (toast/fruit) then 4 hours after that you would be clear to make a reasonable attempt if you were in the mood to ctb.

Also is it your stomach that is bad or your lowest digestion (intestines/colon)? If your stomach is that bad I would probably avoid oral poisonings all together, it seems like vomiting or permanent damage on a failed attempt could be serious.

So you're saying 4 hours would be enough time fasting for an attempt? Because then I could just eat at 10pm, skip my 1am meal and attempt in the middle of the night. I sleep 4-8 hours, but can't attempt when I wake up because my mom works from home.

I'm not sure if it's my stomach or digestion that's bad, but I do have severe food intolerances and GI issues (constipation etc.) which yeah does worry me re: an oral poison. But shouldn't it work even if I vomit?

 

[Dubs]

So you're saying 4 hours would be enough time fasting for an attempt? Because then I could just eat at 10pm, skip my 1am meal and attempt in the middle of the night. I sleep 4-8 hours, but can't attempt when I wake up because my mom works from home.

I'm not sure if it's my stomach or digestion that's bad, but I do have severe food intolerances and GI issues (constipation etc.) which yeah does worry me re: an oral poison. But shouldn't it work even if I vomit?

I would guess a pretty high chance of success if you eat a small meal part way through an 8 hour window. With N poisoning they even suggest eating something small like toast an hour or two out from ingestion perhaps so your stomach isn't too empty. Obviously I can't guarantee success though.

 

[heylightiforgot]

I would guess a pretty high chance of success if you eat a small meal part way through an 8 hour window. With N poisoning they even suggest eating something small like toast an hour or two out from ingestion perhaps so your stomach isn't too empty. Obviously I can't guarantee success though.

Damn, my GI health is giving me second thoughts about this method, and as I say, I can't afford to fuck it up :(

 

[Dubs]

Damn, my GI health is giving me second thoughts about this method, and as I say, I can't afford to fuck it up :(

Did you see my earlier edit about other techniques? Inert gas (exit bag) might be your next best, non violent, technique if you can acquire the supplies.

 

[heylightiforgot]

Did you see my earlier edit about other techniques? Inert gas (exit bag) might be your next best, non violent, technique if you can acquire the supplies.

Unfortunately, I have no money and I'm extremely disabled (basically 100% housebound); also my living situation is highly unstable, so CTB is something I might have to do any day now. So yeah, feeling really trapped. Wish I'd organized Fentanyl or something when I had some money and was less sick.

 

[Deleted member 1465]

I'm sorry to hear your situation.

I'm in a similar position with my deteriorating health limiting what I can do. Sucks doesn't it? I'd try partial if I thought it would work but it''s a very flawed method as I think many on here would attest to.
I kinda wish I'd got sn back before it was regulated but I wasn't as bad then.

 

[Deleted member 1465]

So they practically banned SN In the UK already? I'm sure they will do it in the USA where I am soon too. I think they also banned Australians from using this website: I used to enjoy posts from Australians and learn from many Australians here. They are banning everything as they already banned fentanyl, Nembutal, pure Carbon monoxide etc.I'm back to deciding on H2S or carbon monoxide with SN as also a choice.
Anyone think those are effective? Maybe you or the OP can do the charcoal method, gas generator?

I think it's regulated rather than banned. You have to prove you have a legitimate use for it by proving you are a company and demonstrating how you intend to use it.