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Peter Skellern

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For those interested, SN in a 00 Hard capsule(s) (then coated in acid resistant solution) then placed itself in a Hard 000 capsule(s) should make it to the intestines? Even without the 000 capsule it might.

Obviously other aspects but thoughts re this?
 
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Margin3458

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You need a lot of SN for an attempt like 20-30gs. This will be way too many capsules. Also the capsules will slow down the SN absorption. I dont see a benefit of using Capsules.
 
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Peter Skellern

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18 caps. It absorbs in the intestines (no vomiting) while you're asleep. You get it now?
 
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erski

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Here is a post of someone who followed ( seems successfully ) with the SN using capsules

 
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Peter Skellern

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Here is a post of someone who followed ( seems successfully ) with the SN using capsules

Yep
 
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idk3

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18 caps. It absorbs in the intestines (no vomiting) while you're asleep. You get it now?
Seems like if this was a good idea the Doctors writing the PPH would certainly mention this, no?
 
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Seems like if this was a good idea the Doctors writing the PPH would certainly mention this, no?
The PPH is sometimes just plain wrong and aspects of what it says sometimes has no logical reasoning whatsoever. It also changes it's mind (back and forth). So no.
 
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The Benzo thing is an obvious one. Heaven knows what the thinking is there. I mean do they even know?
 
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I don't know if that would work. The capsules will easily dissolve but I'm not sure how long it will take. Maybe try filling a capsule with the SN, add to cup of water and time it.
 
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What is the vomiting caused by? Jist salt in the stomach? No... Another reason is Methaemoglobemia. Thats why you vomit with CO aswell
 
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I don't know if that would work. The capsules will easily dissolve but I'm not sure how long it will take. Maybe try filling a capsule with the SN, add to cup of water and time it.

Thats why I'd be using special Hard Gastro-resistant (Enteric) capsules which are specifically designed not to break down in the stomach but rather the intestines.
 
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Peter Skellern

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think its these

someone else on here did a post about them - sorry cant remember who to give which member on here credit for the info!

There's soft DR (delayed release) ones - that are budgety. There's Hard ones with an Enteric coating - more expensive. And there's Hard ones where you can add your own Enteric coating - more expensive again.

Seemingly, some countries don't like them as they are concerned re their use to deliver illegal drugs (not in a mule sense) .
 
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The Benzo thing is an obvious one. Heaven knows what the thinking is there. I mean do they even know?
What are you referring to here, taking the benzos too long before the SN making one pass out? If I decide on SN my tentative plan is to take some xanax sublingually right after the SN.
 
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Peter Skellern

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No they recommend a literally humongous amount that would anesthese a Rhino - and an angry Rhino at that.
 
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I'm really interested in sn capsules. I googled and found a website with Acid Resistant Enteric Empty Capsules 0 and 00. I wonder if those would work or if 000 are absolutely needed? Where did you find the info that the 00 capsule should be put in a 000? There's like barely any info on this.

The pill selling site says "Enteric coated pills travel intact through the acids of the stomach and do not begin to dissolve until they reach the small intestine. This means they do not dissolve for at least 2 hours, typically being fully dissolved by the 2.5 or 2.75-hour point."
 
Solace

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No they recommend a literally humongous amount that would anesthese a Rhino - and an angry Rhino at that.
Maybe it's because I've abused similar amounts before, but 20mg/alprazolam doesn't seem like an insane recommendation as a surefire way to pass out quickly to me, though it's certainly excessive for naive users. Not the point of this thread though I know!
 
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Peter Skellern

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A nice young lady on here mentioned it to me. Finnish Lana or suchlike. I'm looking at 00 initially though as an idea.
 
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i am guessing this would reduce a lot of distress and misery earlier on in an attempt if it worked

the real fear for me has always been that at the later stages of such an attempt, when people can't communicate, it hurts like hell as literally every organ is simultaneously deprived of oxygen

something like this would allow a user to take a bunch of pills and then take a dose of heroin that would lead to passing out. the risk of that would be that if a person doesn't pass out from heroin, then they would enjoy life again and want to live because of opiates (but want heroin) and it's too late because they've taken pills. the other risk is that the heroin stops absorption.

i know there's been a lot of talk about how SN is not painful at the end, and some people have posted about doing it and not being in pain near the end, but there's this point where people can't communicate anymore. that's the part i worry about

anything done with this would be a complete experiment and could go horribly wrong, but it seems like the vomiting aspect of that method (as currently part of that protocol) isn't that peaceful
 
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Peter Skellern

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i am guessing this would reduce a lot of distress and misery earlier on in an attempt if it worked

the real fear for me has always been that at the later stages of such an attempt, when people can't communicate, it hurts like hell as literally every organ is simultaneously deprived of oxygen

something like this would allow a user to take a bunch of pills and then take a dose of heroin that would lead to passing out. the risk of that would be that if a person doesn't pass out from heroin, then they would enjoy life again and want to live because of opiates (but want heroin) and it's too late because they've taken pills. the other risk is that the heroin stops absorption.

i know there's been a lot of talk about how SN is not painful at the end, and some people have posted about doing it and not being in pain near the end, but there's this point where people can't communicate anymore. that's the part i worry about

anything done with this would be a complete experiment and could go horribly wrong, but it seems like the vomiting aspect of that method (as currently part of that protocol) isn't that peaceful
A lot of people dont have access to Benzo's which can cause issues like those mentioned.
Maybe it's because I've abused similar amounts before, but 20mg/alprazolam doesn't seem like an insane recommendation as a surefire way to pass out quickly to me, though it's certainly excessive for naive users. Not the point of this thread though I know!
They recommend 1200mg of Diazepam. They certainly did at one point quite recently.
 
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They recommend 1200mg of Diazepam. They certainly did at one point quite recently.
I checked my 2022 copy (haven't read the newest yet) and they did not recommend 20mg alpraz like I remembered for some reason, so don't mind me lol 😭
 
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Peter Skellern

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Somewhere they recommend a vast amount. It often gets mentioned on here as to "why" ?
 
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needthebus

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A lot of people dont have access to Benzo's which can cause issues like those mentioned.

They recommend 1200mg of Diazepam. They certainly did at one point quite recently.
I don't understand what you mean, like which issues? Pain at the last minute?

Even if there isn't anxiety, if suddenly all your organs are deprived of oxygen, I would imagine that would be painful, possibly suddenly painful if they go from having normal oxygen to suddenly none really quickly. I am not sure when, if ever, unconsciousness happens. I haven't read the PPH closely, however.

You're researching everything in such a thorough and careful way, you probably know better than I would whether my concerns could be valid. Personally, I feel like if I were to injest something that would stop my oxygen completely by blocking oxygenation in my blood, suddenly simultaneously depriving all organs of oxygen, I would want that heroin or some drug to block any possible extreme pain. Pain is awful.

But perhaps pain is inevitable, I don't know.
 
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Peter Skellern

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I don't understand what you mean, like which issues? Pain at the last minute?

Even if there isn't anxiety, if suddenly all your organs are deprived of oxygen, I would imagine that would be painful, possibly suddenly painful if they go from having normal oxygen to suddenly none really quickly. I am not sure when, if ever, unconsciousness happens. I haven't read the PPH closely, however.

You're researching everything in such a thorough and careful way, you probably know better than I would whether my concerns could be valid. Personally, I feel like if I were to injest something that would stop my oxygen completely by blocking oxygenation in my blood, suddenly simultaneously depriving all organs of oxygen, I would want that heroin or some drug to block any possible extreme pain. Pain is awful.

But perhaps pain is inevitable, I don't know.

As several others have said, you're a PL Troll so I won't engage thank you.
 
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areyousafe??

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Nov 27, 2024
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As several others have said, you're a PL Troll so I won't engage thank you.
What is PL?

Why do you want to put SN in a capsule? I would be afraid of doing something that no one has done before, because I wouldn't know the likelihood of success.
 
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usernamenoonecares

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I searched on amazon, I found two kinda of delay release capsule "Enteric Coated Empty Gelatin Capsules - Delayed Release Pill Capsules" and "Delayed Release Size 00 Empty Capsules - Vegetarian Empty Pill Capsules".

What would be the difference?

Also do you need to consume a lot of water to swallow like 18 of these capsules?
 
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Peter Skellern

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I searched on amazon, I found two kinda of delay release capsule "Enteric Coated Empty Gelatin Capsules - Delayed Release Pill Capsules" and "Delayed Release Size 00 Empty Capsules - Vegetarian Empty Pill Capsules".

What would be the difference?

Also do you need to consume a lot of water to swallow like 18 of these capsules?
Some are better than others. Some give the capsule 2.5 hrs to get through to the intestines. DR capsules kinda guarantee 45 mins. There's also some you can coat yourself in Acetone - if you look around.

18 '00' capsules is going to be some water yes I'd imagine.
 

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