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I ordered two bottles from two different companies, just to cover all bases. One arrived today, the other should be here tomorrow or next day. When I ordered them I was in a dark place and ready to CTB. But today, I woke up happy, cheerful, in a good mood looking forward to future possibilities. I have been DX as Bi-Polar depression and have endured these highs and lows for about 30 years (I'm 48 yoa now). The lows keep getting lower, and the highs have plateaued.

I'm just glad SN has a long shelf life - at least I think so. As long as I don't open it, it should last months, correct?

I have all the other requirements, 1.5 hydrocodone (pain), lots of clonazepam (anxiety), olanzapine (for bi-polar but read on forum it can serve well as antiemetic). I also have tizanadine (muscle relaxer); which I found no mention of on forum - but figure wth couldn't hurt. Will take meds 1 hour prior and fast for 4-8 hours before SN cocktail.

I may not be ready today, or tomorrow, or next week - but at some point in the future I am sure I will be.

Does anyone have advice on shelf life (for unopened bottle) and thoughts or opinions on whether I have all bases covered for SN. Thank you, and much love to all on this forum. :heart:
 
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Hello. I have read many times on this forum that sn can last up to 3 years if properly sealed and unopened.. mostly to protect it from moisture/ humidity. You can use your blood to test if it is potent enough according to another thread on this website. Just search it in the bar on the top right of this website. If the blood turns a deep dark chocolate brown, it is doing its job at removing oxygen from the blood. You can always test it this way or the aquarium way if you have doubts about it.


Congrats on finding a peaceful way and obtaining the meds to do so.

I'm very glad that you woke up feeling happier today. I know 30 years of suffering is a long time. But hopefully if you do decide that you want to live, things turn out better for you. It'd be amazing.


Remember, if you ever have an extra bad day, we're here for you! Perhaps take a breather before you decide to end it. Make sure that you're in your right mind and are truly ready... just my advice. It's up to you of course.



Whatever you do end up choosing, I wish you happiness and peace.
 
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Hello. I have read many times on this forum that sn can last up to 3 years if properly sealed and unopened.. mostly to protect it from moisture/ humidity. You can use your blood to test if it is potent enough according to another thread on this website. Just search it in the bar on the top right of this website. If the blood turns a deep dark chocolate brown, it is doing its job at removing oxygen from the blood. You can always test it this way or the aquarium way if you have doubts about it.


Congrats on finding a peaceful way and obtaining the meds to do so.

I'm very glad that you woke up feeling happier today. I know 30 years of suffering is a long time. But hopefully if you do decide that you want to live, things turn out better for you. It'd be amazing.


Remember, if you ever have an extra bad day, we're here for you! Perhaps take a breather before you decide to end it. Make sure that you're in your right mind and are truly ready... just my advice. It's up to you of course.



Whatever you do end up choosing, I wish you happiness and peace.
Awe, thank you for these kinds words and support. Heartwarming. Yes, I wholeheartedly agree and thank you for the wonderful advice. I will have to be sure to be in the right frame of mind and be at peace with my decision to CTB - I want what happens once I cross to be a pleasant and loving experience, which I don't believe is possible without that inner peace and knowing the decision is the right thing. I don't want to cross with any negative energy so as to avoid attracting that in my journey. Thank you for being here for me on my extra bad days.
Hello. I have read many times on this forum that sn can last up to 3 years if properly sealed and unopened.. mostly to protect it from moisture/ humidity. You can use your blood to test if it is potent enough according to another thread on this website. Just search it in the bar on the top right of this website. If the blood turns a deep dark chocolate brown, it is doing its job at removing oxygen from the blood. You can always test it this way or the aquarium way if you have doubts about it.


Congrats on finding a peaceful way and obtaining the meds to do so.

I'm very glad that you woke up feeling happier today. I know 30 years of suffering is a long time. But hopefully if you do decide that you want to live, things turn out better for you. It'd be amazing.


Remember, if you ever have an extra bad day, we're here for you! Perhaps take a breather before you decide to end it. Make sure that you're in your right mind and are truly ready... just my advice. It's up to you of course.



Whatever you do end up choosing, I wish you happiness and peace.
Oh, and thanks for the tips on the tests. I didn't know about the blood test - sounds kind of cool to try actually. I've read a little about the aquarium way but not enough research yet to know where to get test kit. If it's aquarium, maybe just any pet supply store? I'll look into it further, but the blood test sounds like a fun science experiment. ;)
 
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Does anyone have advice on shelf life (for unopened bottle)
As said 3 years , sealed in fair conditions probably more .. See Storage here

1.5 hydrocodone (pain), lots of clonazepam (anxiety), olanzapine (for bi-polar but read on forum it can serve well as antiemetic). I also have tizanadine (muscle relaxer)
Sounds fine , you don't need the last one unless you have a specific personal need for it , as SN does not cause seizures/spasms
figure wth couldn't hurt
Has contraindications , use if needed ..
 
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Awe, thank you for these kinds words and support. Heartwarming. Yes, I wholeheartedly agree and thank you for the wonderful advice. I will have to be sure to be in the right frame of mind and be at peace with my decision to CTB - I want what happens once I cross to be a pleasant and loving experience, which I don't believe is possible without that inner peace and knowing the decision is the right thing. I don't want to cross with any negative energy so as to avoid attracting that in my journey. Thank you for being here for me on my extra bad days.

Oh, and thanks for the tips on the tests. I didn't know about the blood test - sounds kind of cool to try actually. I've read a little about the aquarium way but not enough research yet to know where to get test kit. If it's aquarium, maybe just any pet supply store? I'll look into it further, but the blood test sounds like a fun science experiment. ;)

Hey. No problem at all!

Do you have anything that you would like to do before possibly leaving? Any last places you wish to visit, movies to watch, or friends/family to see? Try to enjoy yourself as much as you can.


You're pretty strong for making it so long. I wouldn't be surprised if you continue living. That's not to say that finding peace is not strong. I'm simply saying that I'm impressed with how long you and some others on this website have held on! You deserve happiness. I hope you find it!
 
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I ordered two bottles from two different companies, just to cover all bases. One arrived today, the other should be here tomorrow or next day. When I ordered them I was in a dark place and ready to CTB. But today, I woke up happy, cheerful, in a good mood looking forward to future possibilities. I have been DX as Bi-Polar depression and have endured these highs and lows for about 30 years (I'm 48 yoa now). The lows keep getting lower, and the highs have plateaued.

I'm just glad SN has a long shelf life - at least I think so. As long as I don't open it, it should last months, correct?

I have all the other requirements, 1.5 hydrocodone (pain), lots of clonazepam (anxiety), olanzapine (for bi-polar but read on forum it can serve well as antiemetic). I also have tizanadine (muscle relaxer); which I found no mention of on forum - but figure wth couldn't hurt. Will take meds 1 hour prior and fast for 4-8 hours before SN cocktail.

I may not be ready today, or tomorrow, or next week - but at some point in the future I am sure I will be.

Does anyone have advice on shelf life (for unopened bottle) and thoughts or opinions on whether I have all bases covered for SN. Thank you, and much love to all on this forum. :heart:
Hey there can i ask where you got your SN from and how much? Im wanting to order some for myself. Thankyou so much.
 
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Hey. No problem at all!

Do you have anything that you would like to do before possibly leaving? Any last places you wish to visit, movies to watch, or friends/family to see? Try to enjoy yourself as much as you can.


You're pretty strong for making it so long. I wouldn't be surprised if you continue living. That's not to say that finding peace is not strong. I'm simply saying that I'm impressed with how long you and some others on this website have held on! You deserve happiness. I hope you find it!
Do you have anything that you would like to do before possibly leaving?

I know this sounds cliche, and possibly dumb, but here goes. Yes, I'd like to win the lottery before leaving! I know money doesn't solve all problems - but it sure can make life enjoyable. I have worked VERY hard my entire life (grew up in foster care, then on my own surviving since 16, single mother @ 22). I worked my way up to now buying a brand new 2-story 3Bd 2.5Ba home. Work at a great place with wonderful people and an amazing boss and took my credit score from 600 to over 800. On paper, I have a wonderful life and every reason to live. But with my physical and mental health issues, I am just so, So, SO tired. Not enough $$ to retire, but not enough energy to keep working. So, yes, if I won the lottery - even just $100K or so, I could buy a campervan, quit my job, and live meagerly on my savings. To win several million would be great, but I'd likely share most of it and still live meagerly. I just can't seem to get there so I get discouraged and depressed and just want to cross over to where I KNOW it will be peace and bliss. I will miss the physical things in the spirit world I suppose. Like a delicious high vibrational meal. Nature. I LOVE planet Earth. Gaia. I love her. I love all of the beautiful places on this earth, there are so many of them. If I won the lottery I could go see so many places in person that I've only seen in pictures.

Anyway with all that said. Here's a joke I love.

A man prayed all of his life for God to let him win the lottery. He lived and good and honest life and he prayed day after day. "God, PLEASE help me win the lottery." Months went by, years. The man lay on his deathbed never having won the lottery. When he got to heaven, he ran straight to God. "God, he said, why didn't you hear and answer my prayers. I asked for only one thing. You never helped. You were not there for me."

To which God replied "My son, I needed you to meet me half way."

The man said "But God, I don't understand, I was a good and honest man."

God replied, "No, son, you do not understand. I needed you to meet me half way - and buy a lottery ticket."

Ha ha. I love that joke because I DO buy the lottery ticket. I've been playing the same sets of numbers in three lotteries for 9 years now. Never missed a drawing. My views and opinions of God have changed much in the last year (we are all one, we are all God, there is no man in the sky with white beard). I've even listened a lot to Abraham Hicks (the Secret). Learned much about how we create our own destiny and attract things to ourselves etc. I just haven't been able to figure out how to put it all into practice.

I'll keep trying though; until I don't.
Hey there can i ask where you got your SN from and how much? Im wanting to order some for myself. Thankyou so much.
Amazon. The one that arrived today was $9.99 plus shipping $4.68 S/H. The other one was 2 lbs. for $23.41 with free shipping w/Prime account.
As said 3 years , sealed in fair conditions probably more .. See Storage here


Sounds fine , you don't need the last one unless you have a specific personal need for it , as SN does not cause seizures/spasms

Has contraindications , use if needed ..
Thank you! Helpful. :)
Hey. No problem at all!

Do you have anything that you would like to do before possibly leaving? Any last places you wish to visit, movies to watch, or friends/family to see? Try to enjoy yourself as much as you can.


You're pretty strong for making it so long. I wouldn't be surprised if you continue living. That's not to say that finding peace is not strong. I'm simply saying that I'm impressed with how long you and some others on this website have held on! You deserve happiness. I hope you find it!
Oh also, if I won the lottery; I could buy the good drugs to help with the pain which would definitely make life worth living. The constant pain is really the thing pushing me to the edge. The mental health I've basically conquered, but now with the physical pain, THAT is what is too much for me. They only thing that helps is Hydrocodone but it takes an act of Congress or a lot of $$ to be able to get any these days.
 
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Do you have anything that you would like to do before possibly leaving?

I know this sounds cliche, and possibly dumb, but here goes. Yes, I'd like to win the lottery before leaving! I know money doesn't solve all problems - but it sure can make life enjoyable. I have worked VERY hard my entire life (grew up in foster care, then on my own surviving since 16, single mother @ 22). I worked my way up to now buying a brand new 2-story 3Bd 2.5Ba home. Work at a great place with wonderful people and an amazing boss and took my credit score from 600 to over 800. On paper, I have a wonderful life and every reason to live. But with my physical and mental health issues, I am just so, So, SO tired. Not enough $$ to retire, but not enough energy to keep working. So, yes, if I won the lottery - even just $100K or so, I could buy a campervan, quit my job, and live meagerly on my savings. To win several million would be great, but I'd likely share most of it and still live meagerly. I just can't seem to get there so I get discouraged and depressed and just want to cross over to where I KNOW it will be peace and bliss. I will miss the physical things in the spirit world I suppose. Like a delicious high vibrational meal. Nature. I LOVE planet Earth. Gaia. I love her. I love all of the beautiful places on this earth, there are so many of them. If I won the lottery I could go see so many places in person that I've only seen in pictures.

Anyway with all that said. Here's a joke I love.

A man prayed all of his life for God to let him win the lottery. He lived and good and honest life and he prayed day after day. "God, PLEASE help me win the lottery." Months went by, years. The man lay on his deathbed never having won the lottery. When he got to heaven, he ran straight to God. "God, he said, why didn't you hear and answer my prayers. I asked for only one thing. You never helped. You were not there for me."

To which God replied "My son, I needed you to meet me half way."

The man said "But God, I don't understand, I was a good and honest man."

God replied, "No, son, you do not understand. I needed you to meet me half way - and buy a lottery ticket."

Ha ha. I love that joke because I DO buy the lottery ticket. I've been playing the same sets of numbers in three lotteries for 9 years now. Never missed a drawing. My views and opinions of God have changed much in the last year (we are all one, we are all God, there is no man in the sky with white beard). I've even listened a lot to Abraham Hicks (the Secret). Learned much about how we create our own destiny and attract things to ourselves etc. I just haven't been able to figure out how to put it all into practice.

I'll keep trying though; until I don't.

Amazon. The one that arrived today was $9.99 plus shipping $4.68 S/H. The other one was 2 lbs. for $23.41 with free shipping w/Prime account.

Thank you! Helpful. :)

Oh also, if I won the lottery; I could buy the good drugs to help with the pain which would definitely make life worth living. The constant pain is really the thing pushing me to the edge. The mental health I've basically conquered, but now with the physical pain, THAT is what is too much for me. They only thing that helps is Hydrocodone but it takes an act of Congress or a lot of $$ to be able to get any these days.


It's not dumb at all that you have hope. Everyone wants to win the lottery! But someone in your circumstance could really use the money more than someone that has a healthy body and makes $100k yearly. I sure hope you win something! That'd be awesome.



I know your life must have been so tough. Being a single mother is very hard. It's impressive that you've held together, especially with your physical health issues. You have a lot more motivation to live than me!! It sounds like your energy reservoir is 10x what mine is, haha. I'm all seriousness, I do admire you for the difficulties you've been through.




Some people believe in karma. Some believe that good attracts good and bad attracts bad. I don't believe that second part though because many good people seem to have it very hard, yet you can get cocky mean people that have money, family, etc. Some believe in reincarnation karma. Basically your past life will determine this life's karma. My grandma has a friend that my mom told me about who has very very good luck. The friend believes that whole goodness attracts goodness thing. Who knows, right?



I try to remind myself that even these rich people or naturally talented music artists worth millions are likely just lucky. They're born into a body capable of this talent. What if I was born into their body(hypothetically)? Maybe I'd be a talented singer too... my point is that each person is conscious and I think the body determines talents and so forth. So maybe that's part of this life? Some people experience money struggles while others don't? In the afterlife their conscious awareness expands. I know this is a deeper perspective. I just wanted to share it for the heck of it.



Best wishes in the meantime!
 
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methemoglobinemia can cause seizures.
After you lose consciousness , and it's rare ...

At methemoglobin levels of 30-50%, there may be tachypnea, confusion, and loss of consciousness. Approaching 50%, the patient is at risk for seizures, dysrhythmias, metabolic acidosis, and coma.

The degree of symptom severity is multifactorial and depends on the patient's percentage of methemoglobin, the rate at which methemoglobin was accumulated, the individual's ability to intrinsically clear it, and the underlying health status of the patient. Duration and magnitude of exposure to an oxidizing agent may also play a role.

As reported by observed ctbs documentation people had few small occasional muscle tremors (hand moving slightly) as part of the body shutting down , which is nothing like 'seizures' . Other members who reported "making noise" one way or the other -- were basically walking during the poisoning... Well, if you try moving your entire body while having SN poisoning , yes you may have spasms . Meto can cause problems on its own , that's why try it first , and avoid if it's a problem . Otherwise , unless you are prone to it by an existing condition , there aren't really seizures .
 
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It's not dumb at all that you have hope. Everyone wants to win the lottery! But someone in your circumstance could really use the money more than someone that has a healthy body and makes $100k yearly. I sure hope you win something! That'd be awesome.



I know your life must have been so tough. Being a single mother is very hard. It's impressive that you've held together, especially with your physical health issues. You have a lot more motivation to live than me!! It sounds like your energy reservoir is 10x what mine is, haha. I'm all seriousness, I do admire you for the difficulties you've been through.




Some people believe in karma. Some believe that good attracts good and bad attracts bad. I don't believe that second part though because many good people seem to have it very hard, yet you can get cocky mean people that have money, family, etc. Some believe in reincarnation karma. Basically your past life will determine this life's karma. My grandma has a friend that my mom told me about who has very very good luck. The friend believes that whole goodness attracts goodness thing. Who knows, right?



I try to remind myself that even these rich people or naturally talented music artists worth millions are likely just lucky. They're born into a body capable of this talent. What if I was born into their body(hypothetically)? Maybe I'd be a talented singer too... my point is that each person is conscious and I think the body determines talents and so forth. So maybe that's part of this life? Some people experience money struggles while others don't? In the afterlife their conscious awareness expands. I know this is a deeper perspective. I just wanted to share it for the heck of it.



Best wishes in the meantime!
I'm TOTALLY into the deeper perspective. That's been my all consuming passion for a year and a half now. I believe in all that "woo woo" stuff. As one of my favorite mediums says "It's not woo woo, it's true true." I've been on a serious spiritual journey and dove head first into these things. It's been a roller coaster of a ride, but I've learned so much. I truly believe your mom's friends philosophy is right on the nail. ;)
 
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I saw you saying something about a canpervan. Did you look into tiny houses aswell?
 

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