Help SN and Unconsciousness

[justwannadip]

Hey guys, so I'll be getting my SN soon, and had a few questions.

I was wondering if its possible to create a unconscious, anesthesia-like state after taking the SN. I have really bad anxiety and OCD, and do not trust myself or my SI to not call for help after drinking, especially when symptoms could start freaking me out. Is there a way around this other than just benzos? I have benzos, but even at high doses its just a sedative, and I'll still feel the symptoms and likely be able to still call for help. I've been researching opioids, including synthetic opioids like morphine, nitazenes (protonitazene etc.), H and F (heroin and fentanyl), but don't know if these would negatively affect the efficacy of SN. Those may also be very difficult to source, as I'd likely have to use the DN and don't have experience with that.

If anyone could help me, or has any ideas on how I could achieve this state of unconsciousness with SN, I'd love to know. I know I may be asking for too much or being picky, I just need this to work, and hope it can be peaceful as possible. Thank you.

 

[N3UR0T1C]

High dose of benzodiazapenes taken right before the SN (like 30 minutes). If you take a sufficient dose, most report the onset of unconciousness coming quite quickly (within 5-30 minutes) from the SN alone, and the benzos will shorten the time to unconsciousness by quite a lot. None of the options you listed would hinder the SN, but they aren't really neccessary if you have benzos.

 

[justwannadip]

High dose of benzodiazapenes taken right before the SN (like 30 seconds). If you take a sufficient dose, most report the onset of unconciousness coming quite quickly (within 5-30 minutes) from the SN alone, and the benzos will shorten the time to unconsciousness by quite a lot. None of the options you listed would hinder the SN, but they aren't really neccessary if you have benzos.

Ok thanks for that info. I hope unconsciousness happens quick. I'm so scared

 

[Roadrunner]

High dose of benzodiazapenes taken right before the SN (like 30 seconds). If you take a sufficient dose, most report the onset of unconciousness coming quite quickly (within 5-30 minutes) from the SN alone, and the benzos will shorten the time to unconsciousness by quite a lot. None of the options you listed would hinder the SN, but they aren't really neccessary if you have benzos.

I take occasional benzo for anxiety. They don't work that fast. I'd say 10 min before SN. Guess I should check the handbook

 

[justwannadip]

I take occasional benzo for anxiety. They don't work that fast. I'd say 10 min before SN. Guess I should check the handbook

Ya mine (clonazepam) takes about an hour to work. If I crushed them they may take half the time though I'm not sure. Some benzos are fast acting, clonazepam is slower release and has a longer half life

 

[N3UR0T1C]

I take occasional benzo for anxiety. They don't work that fast. I'd say 10 min before SN. Guess I should check the handbook

Oh shit, I meant to say 30 minutes. Editing now.

 

[Roadrunner]

Ya mine (clonazepam) takes about an hour to work. If I crushed them they may take half the time though I'm not sure. Some benzos are fast acting, clonazepam is slower release and has a longer half life

Clonazepam is what I take, definitely works for anxiety

 

[sukiduki]

i feel like benzos i've tried take longer on me to work. valium and xanax i dont feel calm/sleepy until over an hour or sometimes more. maybe try testing before you decide on dose but it seems like most people on here say they will work, just get a feel for your body.

 

[cowboypants]

Hey guys, so I'll be getting my SN soon, and had a few questions.

I was wondering if its possible to create a unconscious, anesthesia-like state after taking the SN. I have really bad anxiety and OCD, and do not trust myself or my SI to not call for help after drinking, especially when symptoms could start freaking me out. Is there a way around this other than just benzos? I have benzos, but even at high doses its just a sedative, and I'll still feel the symptoms and likely be able to still call for help. I've been researching opioids, including synthetic opioids like morphine, nitazenes (protonitazene etc.), H and F (heroin and fentanyl), but don't know if these would negatively affect the efficacy of SN. Those may also be very difficult to source, as I'd likely have to use the DN and don't have experience with that.

If anyone could help me, or has any ideas on how I could achieve this state of unconsciousness with SN, I'd love to know. I know I may be asking for too much or being picky, I just need this to work, and hope it can be peaceful as possible. Thank you.

PPH 2022 book recommends beta blockers (propranolol 400mg), when you take antiemetics or mixed with the SN drink. Benzos also might work

 

[Acritarch]

High dose of benzodiazapenes taken right before the SN (like 30 minutes). If you take a sufficient dose, most report the onset of unconciousness coming quite quickly (within 5-30 minutes) from the SN alone, and the benzos will shorten the time to unconsciousness by quite a lot. None of the options you listed would hinder the SN, but they aren't really neccessary if you have benzos.

But falling asleep too early could lead to you not noticing when you vomit the SN and then not being able to take a second cup.

 

[Esokabat]

Yes, but based on personal accounts, how many actually takes the second cup? The one I remember has vomitted, tried to take second glass, but they were unable to make themselves drink it. It was still successful though. Do people actually really ever take the second cup?

 

[thefaunasystem]

Thoughts I feel relevant RE discussion about high-dose benzodiazepines:

After reading your post, I'm sure you will be aware of this however I will reiterate. Nitazines (one of the classes of synthetic opioid you mentioned) has an incredibly high potency (sometimes higher than 100x as strong as fent - a single grain of power being lethal). It is being found increasingly in street benzodiazepines, especially in UK/Europe, and as one would assume, is very responsive to naloxone/Narcan which is carried in ambulances.

I would urge you to acquire benzos for this purpose through legal means where possible. Most GPs have someone that works there that will give them, it might just take some persuasion/acting. I'd advise to show signs of physical agitation and anxiety-motivated insomnia, and make sure to ask for a 'short supply'. Docs are much more likely to give them for a short time: acknowledge you know they are addictive, deny any suicidal thoughts.

I hope this helps.

 

[Esokabat]

Thoughts I feel relevant RE discussion about high-dose benzodiazepines:

After reading your post, I'm sure you will be aware of this however I will reiterate. Nitazines (one of the classes of synthetic opioid you mentioned) has an incredibly high potency (sometimes higher than 100x as strong as fent - a single grain of power being lethal). It is being found increasingly in street benzodiazepines, especially in UK/Europe, and as one would assume, is very responsive to naloxone/Narcan which is carried in ambulances.

I would urge you to acquire benzos for this purpose through legal means where possible. Most GPs have someone that works there that will give them, it might just take some persuasion/acting. I'd advise to show signs of physical agitation and anxiety-motivated insomnia, and make sure to ask for a 'short supply'. Docs are much more likely to give them for a short time: acknowledge you know they are addictive, deny any suicidal thoughts.

I hope this helps.

I don't fully understand your point. Your concern is that he passes out prior to drinking the SN?
I mean I would love to get benzos laced with nitazines. I would drink the SN, and I would inmediatley boof a very high dose of benzos laced with nitazines. What you are trying to avoid is exactly what I would look for. And boofing works sometimes within seconds, it is much quicker than oral consumption

 

[justwannadip]

Thoughts I feel relevant RE discussion about high-dose benzodiazepines:

After reading your post, I'm sure you will be aware of this however I will reiterate. Nitazines (one of the classes of synthetic opioid you mentioned) has an incredibly high potency (sometimes higher than 100x as strong as fent - a single grain of power being lethal). It is being found increasingly in street benzodiazepines, especially in UK/Europe, and as one would assume, is very responsive to naloxone/Narcan which is carried in ambulances.

I would urge you to acquire benzos for this purpose through legal means where possible. Most GPs have someone that works there that will give them, it might just take some persuasion/acting. I'd advise to show signs of physical agitation and anxiety-motivated insomnia, and make sure to ask for a 'short supply'. Docs are much more likely to give them for a short time: acknowledge you know they are addictive, deny any suicidal thoughts.

I hope this helps.

Thanks for your reply.
I already have benzos (clonazepam), but I only get them in .25mg tablets so I'd need to crush up roughly 10-16.
In regards to nitazines, wouldnt that be beneficial? I feel like nitazines are a perfect way to go if successful. Wouldnt combining it with SN be more peaceful?

 

[Esokabat]

Thanks for your reply.
I already have benzos (clonazepam), but I only get them in .25mg tablets so I'd need to crush up roughly 10-16.
In regards to nitazines, wouldnt that be beneficial? I feel like nitazines are a perfect way to go if successful. Wouldnt combining it with SN be more peaceful?

this is also what I didn't understand about that comment. Nitazines would be useful in this scenario, not something to be avoided.
"Avoid nitazine laced benzos" public announcement. No thank you. That is exactly what I would look for. Yes, please lace those benzos with Nitazines, the more the better.
The key thing is to be concious enough to still drink the SN, this is why boofing right after a really high dose could also work. Especially if you could find the ones laced with nitazines. I think you should just ignore that post, it seems they forgot what forum they were on.

 

[thefaunasystem]

Thanks for your reply.
I already have benzos (clonazepam), but I only get them in .25mg tablets so I'd need to crush up roughly 10-16.
In regards to nitazines, wouldnt that be beneficial? I feel like nitazines are a perfect way to go if successful. Wouldnt combining it with SN be more peaceful?

i think nitazines would be very beneficial if if you will be undisturbed for the duration. if you have 100% chance of no medical staff being called within 30 mins of unconciousness, disregard everything i have said. in a big multi-agent OD it would achieve CTB faster however is much more reversible which is why i made the point.

methylene blue (antidote to SN) is not carried on ambulances which is one of the reasons SN is very reliable and considered irreversible to a point. with the potency of nitazines, you risk becoming unconcious before being able to consume the full amount of SN, with the potential to come back around having suffered some amount of hypoxic brain injury, whilst still maintaining life. naloxone (universal opiate antidote/reversal agent) is importantly carried by every ambulance on the road, and in a hell of a lot of police/fire cars. in hypenic hypoxia (which is what occurs with SN - whereby the cells lose the ability to carry oxygen permanently), the process of creating methemoglobinemia (described above) is almost irreversible when it reaches a certain point - thereby eliminating the risk of brain damage/mental disability: the point where treatment stops being useful is past the point of ang form of life being regained. however, if naloxone is administered at any point after an opioid OD (ie. nitazines), even 20+ minutes after cardiac arrest, it can produce positive effect and a return of spontaneous circulation, regardless of the state of the brain.

another person who replied to this suggests i've forgotten the aim of this forum. i disagree - i just dont want you ended up a vegetable. i also, personally, very much value my plan - i want it to go to plan when i carry it through and yes, whilst death is the goal, having control over that is important to me personally; its not for me to assess that in yourself. even though we all know that dying is the end goal here, i very firmly believe people should have all of the information possible to go about it in a way that they understand and have consented to in full; changes of plan included. if i were in your shoes, i would invest in test strips. even if it is to make sure what you are taking is definitely a nitazine, just make sure you know what you're taking.