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losttagain

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Based on your personal research, do you think sn will be very painful? What about the time until unconsciousness, do you think si can kick in and in that time one can get scared and call for help? Will something like xanax help with the time (and how much) or will it make things more complicated?

I'm really afraid of this
 
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PlannedforPeru

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Hey, I'll try to answer the questions based on threads I've seen around here but I'd read the below link if you haven't already or skip to the parts in it which interest you. People often describe it as uncomfortable but not painful, time until unconscious seems to be around 10 minutes, people do take benzos as a sedative, SI varies between people, but yes, the method is reported to be pretty easily reversible:

Keep in mind some have died during self-requested rescue and others have survived from being found prematurely.

 
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I think it's uncomfortable but not painful based on the threads I've read here. And the massive benzo dose will definitely help you not be scared and will knock you out.
 
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PhDone

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Are there any protocols anyone has posted using a small dose of benzo earlier in the protocol to manage SI and nerves? I think in all recent discussion the main OD of benzo is best 5-10min prior to SN to avoid passing out prior to SN. But what about a 'calming' dose?
 
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death_bed221

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Its probably gonna hurt a little but if u really wanna die, Its not that bad
 
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theolivanderroach

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Are there any protocols anyone has posted using a small dose of benzo earlier in the protocol to manage SI and nerves? I think in all recent discussion the main OD of benzo is best 5-10min prior to SN to avoid passing out prior to SN. But what about a 'calming' dose?
I don't know if anyone else has done this but I personally plan on talking a normal "calming dose" of 2mg of lorazepam after taking the meto dose (40 minutes prior to talking SN and the main benzo OD). Just to help calm any anxiety I might feel waiting for those 40 minutes to pass and taking SN. 2mg of lorazepam is a normal dose for anxiety and I've taken that amount plenty of times before. I don't think it would have any adverse effects within the whole SN plan.
 
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neenie

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It's uncomfortable, you will feel as if you're drunk, throw up and hyperventilate, but it won't be painful. The SI has time to kick in if you take a small dose, panick after vomiting or hesitate beforehand and end up not doing it. Benzos can dull SI. You seem a bit nervous, maybe taking some time to fully consider the situation would be beneficial? Anyway I wish you the best
 
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losttagain

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I think it's uncomfortable but not painful based on the threads I've read here. And the massive benzo dose will definitely help you not be scared and will knock you out.
How much mg of benzos should be taken to knock me out after ingesting the sn? I have alprazolam 0,25mg (xanax) do u think that will do?
I'm afraid it will interfere with the throwing up and taking more sn, like imagine we pass out and choke on vomit and it doesn't work idk…
It's uncomfortable, you will feel as if you're drunk, throw up and hyperventilate, but it won't be painful. The SI has time to kick in if you take a small dose, panick after vomiting or hesitate beforehand and end up not doing it. Benzos can dull SI. You seem a bit nervous, maybe taking some time to fully consider the situation would be beneficial? Anyway I wish you the best
Ive read that 3 cups of sn should be prepared to take after throwing up, right? What if I just keep throwing up and run out of sn? Has anyone read something like that happening?

Thanks for replying, I keep delaying really thinking about this, cuz if I keep reading I will find more and more things to be scared of… I just may do it on impulse or I'm afraid I'll keep delaying or ask for help when the symptoms start happening
 
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neenie

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Ive read that 3 cups of sn should be prepared to take after throwing up, right? What if I just keep throwing up and run out of sn? Has anyone read something like that happening?

Thanks for replying, I keep delaying really thinking about this, cuz if I keep reading I will find more and more things to be scared of… I just may do it on impulse or I'm afraid I'll keep delaying or ask for help when the symptoms start happening

To learn more about SN, I'd recommend you read this guide: https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/stans-guide-to-sn.27535/ or the Peaceful Pill Handbook (pdf available online). The recommended dose is actually high enough that even if you throw up, chances are you will have ingested enough to catch the bus. The only way you'd survive after drinking the recommended dose is if you call an ambulance on yourself, or someone else finds you. I have to warn you though that the ensuing medical care will likely be painful.

Though I want you to be able to make an informed decision, I don't want to feed into your anxiety further and I think taking time to consider all your options and not binging on SaSu's SN threads too frantically could ease you a bit. I do understand this kind of decisions are hard to make and can cause panic. Whatever you choose in the end, proceed safely :)
 
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I have to warn you though that the ensuing medical care will likely be painful.
Do you know what the procedure is for trying to rescue someone who ingested SN? I was under the impression it was like a shot, IV, or something, they don't pump your stomach, do they?
 
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Do you know what the procedure is for trying to rescue someone who ingested SN? I was under the impression it was like a shot, IV, or something, they don't pump your stomach, do they?
they give you methylene blue in hospital. paramedics do not carry it in the ambulance AFAIK.
 
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PlannedforPeru

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they give you methylene blue in hospital. paramedics do not carry it in the ambulance AFAIK.
That shouldn't be painful, no? Not anymore than ingesting SN at least, I did hear about the coming down effects of SN if that's what @neenie was referring to.
 
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neenie

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Do you know what the procedure is for trying to rescue someone who ingested SN? I was under the impression it was like a shot, IV, or something, they don't pump your stomach, do they?
The procedures vary from situation to situation, but they can pump your stomach, put you on a ventilator, draw blood from your arteries to test for blood gas (which basically means getting stabbed in the wrist), stick a tube inside your special place (to extract urine), etc. Of course there's the methylene blue / activated charcoal thing but also all the surrounding painful medical procedures to take into consideration
That shouldn't be painful, no? Not anymore than ingesting SN at least, I did hear about the coming down effects of SN if that's what @neenie was referring to.
You're right methylene blue isn't painful, just uncomfortable (gives you nausea)
 
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There are multiple threads with the same question. Please look at the links provided or use the search button.

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