Smothering

[ElMow]

I'm afraid this will get lost in my other thread so I wanted to make a thread specifically asking about this.

My preferred method of dying, as of now...

Drug myself to sleep. Various ways, deciding. But this is simple enough.

At the point of total unconsciousness a friend holds a pillow over my nose and mouth. I die.

I do have someone willing.

Now. I am told smothering with pillow is very hard to detect. That if there is no struggle/bruising there's really no sign. Eyes will be red,etc but many things cause that. True? I want to be very sure my friend does not get in trouble.

Thoughts?

 

[HereToday]

Wow where do you find friends willing to smother you lol?
Even if there was no sign of smothering, if your friend could be placed at the crime scene they'd be a suspect.

'Throughout the investigation of a death by suffocation or smothering the pathologist will look for the tell tale signs: the bloodshot eyes, the high levels of carbon dioxide in the blood and will also look for bruising around the nose and mouth and may even collect trace evidence such as hairs and fibres (((from the pillow))) from around the nose and mouth of the deceased.

Until proven otherwise by a pathologist and subsequent inquest all cases of suffocation or smothering are treated as potentially suspicious.'

 

[ElMow]

The pillow will be removed and no one will know she was there. Also huge...and I am very remiss to leave out...I have breathing problems. Take inhalers frequently. I think this could look natural if done right...

Of course the drug that knocks me out is still there...

 

[HereToday]

The pillow will be removed and no one will know she was there. Also huge...and I am very remiss to leave out...I have breathing problems. Take inhalers frequently. I think this could look natural if done right...

Of course the drug that knocks me out is still there...

The pillow can still leave behind fibres invisible to the naked eye
You'd need to make sure your friend has an alibi, keeps their phone turned off, and isn't seen by anyone leaving your house, street, etc

 

[ElMow]

The pillow can still leave behind fibres invisible to the naked eye
You'd need to make sure your friend has an alibi, keeps their phone turned off, and isn't seen by anyone leaving your house, street, etc

Oh yes, thought of all that. I just think with them being overworked...I live in a huge city with a higher than normal murder rate...and my pre-existing condition...they likely will push it through.

Or I'm nieve.

 

[TheDevilsAngel]

I wish you well whatever you decide to do.... I also wish I had a friend like yours... Sending you

 

[Ame]

There are so many ways in which this plan can go sideways and end up terrible for you friend. While the means used to bring about your death might be ambiguous at first glance, there are ways to accurately tease them out. Besides the pillow, your friend runs the risk of unknowingly leaving traces in your room and throughout the rest of your home. There are also some lasting effects on your friend that you might want to discuss together. Even though they mean to be compassionate in helping you die, it might still weigh heavily on them.

There are some doctors who perform voluntary euthanasia (this implies that they are pro-euthanasia and believe that providing medical assistance in dying is an act of compassion to some degree) who have written about their experiences and how it has affected them. Of those that shared their thoughts, many have said that there ought to be a cap on how many euthanasia procedures any one physician should carry out over the course of the year because it does get to them.

Your friend must really love and support you to agree to helping you like this, but there is no way to tell how they might feel in the moment and in the time after your passing. Even if you are sedated (I don't know which medications you are planning on taking), being physically smothered isn't the most peaceful way to go for those looking in from the outside. They could walk away fine or windup traumatised. No matter your choice, please be careful.

 

[ElMow]

I appreciate that thoughtful reply.
There are already traces of her everywhere. She is here often.
The rest is certainly something to give a lot of thought to. Thank you!

 

[ARW3N]

You know I can't condone someone smothering you to death because that would be murder, not suicide.

 

[ElMow]

You know I can't condone someone smothering you to death because that would be murder, not suicide.

I disagree. No different than assisted suicide. If that's how it has to be, so be it.

 

[ARW3N]

I disagree. No different than assisted suicide. If that's how it has to be, so be it.

But that's not how the coroner will see It. Your friend could face up to 14 years' imprisonment. Suicide has been decriminalised but not assisted suicide.

 

[ElMow]

But that's not how the coroner will see It. Your friend could face up to 14 years' imprisonment. Suicide has been decriminalised but not assisted suicide.

I see your point. I can't help thinking the odds are overwhelming that she would easily be undetected. There are traces of here here for valid reason and no reason to suspect her and we have an alabi plan.

Of course still thinking on everything...

 

[HopeDiesLast]

If you care about your friend as much as she seems to care about you...then you won't put her in that position. Please.

 

[Jean4]

Not only will your friend be charged, but if he was truly a friend, why would you want him to live with that image in his head for the rest of his life. Also, if he was a true friend, he wouldn't kill you.

When my partner CTB, he posted his goodbye post when he knew I would be sleeping because he knew it would be my last sleep, and he wanted to protect me.

 

[ElMow]

Thanks all. Much to think about.

 

[Farmmaa]

Thanks all. Much to think about.

There's really not much to think about at all.
Anyone who involves another person in their suicide in order to make it easier for them is being incredibly selfish.
It doesn't matter if that friend volunteers, is coerced or comes up with the plan.... suicide is a solo journey.

Anything else is either assisted suicide - which has limited legal coverage in a very limited number of countries... or it's murder.

Your friend will be charged, she will be put in jail and she will have to live with what she's done for the rest of her life.

It's not acceptable and it's not fair in any way, shape or form.