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Apologies if I've missed a thread about this. I tried to search for one and got
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I'm new to the site and want some advice. I won't be an active member and I don't have concrete plans to ctb but I would like to know that I am in control of things.

I have a small car and I've purchased 3 disposable BBQs from a supermarket - all are around 500G. Lumpwood charcol. I've got 3 bricks in the boot (trunk) for them to rest on, and I've got a bag with gaffer tape for the windows, doors and vents. I've got a book to read, a notepad to write in and I am considering something to help me go to sleep. I originally thought to just wait until I'm really tired but adrenaline is a mo'fo. I don't smoke weed anymore but can easily get some, I'm fairly sure it would put me to sleep as my tolerance is gone (it's been years) and I'm pretty boring in that I don't know anyone who can get me knock-out pills (or what would work). I'm a big guy. Just over 6'2 and 300lbs.

I've read stories about people who have gone with less than this and just want to make sure I'm not missing anything. I've got a quiet spot picked out and I think that if it comes to it I'll be okay.

I'm not a fetishist and I'm not looking for attention. Good luck to you all in whatever you decide to do. I'm being honest. I'm not actively planning to go - I haven't got a date - but knowing it's in my hands brings me more comfort than I can say. I just don't want to have to try twice. Thanks in advance.
 
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I attempted this a few weeks ago. I used 1.8kg of charcoal and one portable grill. I had drank alcohol to reduce the anxiety and it worked. I also took zzzQuil to help me fall asleep. What I did was: I let the charcoal burn outside for about 1 hour until there were no more flames. I took the grill and put it on a brick inside my passenger side floor mat. I closed the door and let the grill sit inside for about 30 to build up the CO level inside the car. After 30 min I got inside. I was inside for about 10-15min before I felt like I was about to pass out. At that point I sent a text to my gf to let her know, which ended up being the reason I survived. She was able to get to me in time. I lost consciousness right after I sent the text message and I woke up in the hospital. My CO blood gas level was 50-70%. I was in the car for about 40-45min total. If she had not gotten to me, I would've succeeded. It was entirely painless and you will pass out before you feel anything.
 
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I attempted this a few weeks ago. I used 1.8kg of charcoal and one portable grill. I had drank alcohol to reduce the anxiety and it worked. I also took zzzQuil to help me fall asleep. What I did was: I let the charcoal burn outside for about 1 hour until there were no more flames. I took the grill and put it on a brick inside my passenger side floor mat. I closed the door and let the grill sit inside for about 30 to build up the CO level inside the car. After 30 min I got inside. I was inside for about 10-15min before I felt like I was about to pass out. At that point I sent a text to my gf to let her know, which ended up being the reason I survived. She was able to get to me in time. I lost consciousness right after I sent the text message and I woke up in the hospital. My CO blood gas level was 50-70%. I was in the car for about 40-45min total. If she had not gotten to me, I would've succeeded. It was entirely painless and you will pass out before you feel anything.

This is definitely my second option if i don't use my SN! This sounds blissful. Just want to die in my sleep ☹️
 
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This is definitely my second option if i don't use my SN! This sounds blissful. Just want to die in my sleep ☹

I can vouch for this method being peaceful if done correctly. It's ironic that the only pain I felt through the entire process was when they stuck the needle in my artery at the hospital. The other reassuring piece of info is that when you breathe in CO, it feels no different than air. You don't feel like you're suffocating.
 
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I can vouch for this method being peaceful if done correctly. It's ironic that the only pain I felt through the entire process was when they stuck the needle in my artery at the hospital. The other reassuring piece of info is that when you breathe in CO, it feels no different than air. You don't feel like you're suffocating.

Basically a peaceful passing in your sleep! Sounds great! Might look into it more after your story and put SN on the back burner! (No pun intended!!)

Sorry your attempt was haulted but there's obviously a reason for that and you were supposed to be here. (I believe in fate!!)

Hope your okay and coming to terms with being here still x
 
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I can vouch for this method being peaceful if done correctly. It's ironic that the only pain I felt through the entire process was when they stuck the needle in my artery at the hospital. The other reassuring piece of info is that when you breathe in CO, it feels no different than air. You don't feel like you're suffocating.
Did they just let you go from hospital?
 
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I attempted this a few weeks ago. I used 1.8kg of charcoal and one portable grill. I had drank alcohol to reduce the anxiety and it worked. I also took zzzQuil to help me fall asleep. What I did was: I let the charcoal burn outside for about 1 hour until there were no more flames. I took the grill and put it on a brick inside my passenger side floor mat. I closed the door and let the grill sit inside for about 30 to build up the CO level inside the car. After 30 min I got inside. I was inside for about 10-15min before I felt like I was about to pass out. At that point I sent a text to my gf to let her know, which ended up being the reason I survived. She was able to get to me in time. I lost consciousness right after I sent the text message and I woke up in the hospital. My CO blood gas level was 50-70%. I was in the car for about 40-45min total. If she had not gotten to me, I would've succeeded. It was entirely painless and you will pass out before you feel anything.
Thank you for this first hand account. Very informative. If you don't mind me asking, did you find yourself gagging at all? How was the smell? I had a feeling it would give you an extreme headache and you'd feel really constricted trying to breathe.
 
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Did they just let you go from hospital?

no, I was sent to a mental facility for two weeks. It was pure hell. I spent three days in the hospital under 24 hour watch.

Thank you for this first hand account. Very informative. If you don't mind me asking, did you find yourself gagging at all? How was the smell? I had a feeling it would give you an extreme headache and you'd feel really constricted trying to breathe.

the smell was mostly just charcoal burning. It wasn't entirely bad. Also, I burned and melted my glovebox. I didn't feel a headache at all. I feel like it depends on the amount of CO. I would imagine at lower levels that you'd feel the symptoms more since it takes longer to cause an effect. As far as breathing, you don't feel any different than breathing air. Carbon monoxide binds to hemoglobin better than oxygen. At high enough levels you just feel slightly light headed, but you pass out before you know it. The last thing I remember was feeling slightly lightheaded (wasn't unpleasant or anything), and then sending the text. After that I don't remember anything else. I completely lost consciousness. My girlfriend was banging on my car window and I was out. They took me in an ambulance and it wasn't until they gave me 100% oxygen in the hospital that I woke up again.The doctor said he was surprised I didn't go into a coma with my CO levels. I was also fortunate to not have any permanent damage.
 
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no, I was sent to a mental facility for two weeks. It was pure hell. I spent three days in the hospital under 24 hour watch.



the smell was mostly just charcoal burning. It wasn't entirely bad. Also, I burned and melted my glovebox. I didn't feel a headache at all. I feel like it depends on the amount of CO. I would imagine at lower levels that you'd feel the symptoms more since it takes longer to cause an effect. As far as breathing, you don't feel any different than breathing air. Carbon monoxide binds to hemoglobin better than oxygen. At high enough levels you just feel slightly light headed, but you pass out before you know it. The last thing I remember was feeling slightly lightheaded (wasn't unpleasant or anything), and then sending the text. After that I don't remember anything else. I completely lost consciousness. My girlfriend was banging on my car window and I was out. They took me in an ambulance and it wasn't until they gave me 100% oxygen in the hospital that I woke up again.The doctor said he was surprised I didn't go into a coma with my CO levels. I was also fortunate to not have any permanent damage.

Thank you for this. I supports stuff I've read elsewhere - it's like going to sleep.
My only real question is would three small disposable BBQs in a small car be enough, and how long do you think it would take? I hope that if it came to it I would be able to read my book until I fall asleep, but I have never been in that position before and don't know how I would react. If I was found before I ctb it would be so much worse.
 
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Thank you for this. I supports stuff I've read elsewhere - it's like going to sleep.
My only real question is would three small disposable BBQs in a small car be enough, and how long do you think it would take? I hope that if it came to it I would be able to read my book until I fall asleep, but I have never been in that position before and don't know how I would react. If I was found before I ctb it would be so much worse.

500g of charcoal each? So 1.5kg?

I had used 1.8kg and I also let it sit inside the car first. You can go inside with the grill at the same time to reduce the amount of CO lost if you opened the door. The only downside is you would be in the car for a longer time. Also I do not know if you'd experience more symptoms since the level would be building up from scratch.
 
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I attempted this a few weeks ago. I used 1.8kg of charcoal and one portable grill. I had drank alcohol to reduce the anxiety and it worked. I also took zzzQuil to help me fall asleep. What I did was: I let the charcoal burn outside for about 1 hour until there were no more flames. I took the grill and put it on a brick inside my passenger side floor mat. I closed the door and let the grill sit inside for about 30 to build up the CO level inside the car. After 30 min I got inside. I was inside for about 10-15min before I felt like I was about to pass out. At that point I sent a text to my gf to let her know, which ended up being the reason I survived. She was able to get to me in time. I lost consciousness right after I sent the text message and I woke up in the hospital. My CO blood gas level was 50-70%. I was in the car for about 40-45min total. If she had not gotten to me, I would've succeeded. It was entirely painless and you will pass out before you feel anything.
May I ask you why did you call your gf?
 
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May I ask you why did you call your gf?

For one, I had our puppy with me, and I wanted to make sure she would come pick her up at the house. Secondly, I left notes on the table that I wanted her to receive. And I guess lastly, I wanted her to know.
 
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500g of charcoal each? So 1.5kg?

I had used 1.8kg and I also let it sit inside the car first. You can go inside with the grill at the same time to reduce the amount of CO lost if you opened the door. The only downside is you would be in the car for a longer time. Also I do not know if you'd experience more symptoms since the level would be building up from scratch.

Again, thank you. Yes it's about that much - each BBQ says 500g and it must be almost all lumpwood. I also wondered about the heat aspect - you said the glovebox melted with 1.8kg? I've got bricks to put them on and am thinking of spreading them around so the combined heat of all three doesn't damage the rear window or something - I'd hate for it to crack or melt or whatever (or set the car alight!). I researched "painless" for a reason. I saw that most attempts don't work and I want to think of everything, just in case. The car is a small hatchback.

I keep telling myself I don't want to do it but I drove to the spot today and sat there. It's beautiful, out of the way, got a great view. Had a little cry and came home. Still no concrete plans. Thank you for the advice.
 
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For one, I had our puppy with me, and I wanted to make sure she would come pick her up at the house. Secondly, I left notes on the table that I wanted her to receive. And I guess lastly, I wanted her to know.
Seems so peaceful, is that right?
 
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Sounds like a painless method. A good second choice if I can't end up getting hold of SN.

I attempted this a few weeks ago. I used 1.8kg of charcoal and one portable grill. I had drank alcohol to reduce the anxiety and it worked. I also took zzzQuil to help me fall asleep. What I did was: I let the charcoal burn outside for about 1 hour until there were no more flames. I took the grill and put it on a brick inside my passenger side floor mat. I closed the door and let the grill sit inside for about 30 to build up the CO level inside the car. After 30 min I got inside. I was inside for about 10-15min before I felt like I was about to pass out. At that point I sent a text to my gf to let her know, which ended up being the reason I survived. She was able to get to me in time. I lost consciousness right after I sent the text message and I woke up in the hospital. My CO blood gas level was 50-70%. I was in the car for about 40-45min total. If she had not gotten to me, I would've succeeded. It was entirely painless and you will pass out before you feel anything.

Thank you for the information. Can I ask how you selected the place to do this? I can't imagine finding a secluded spot at night would be too difficult especially with the current lock-down in the UK but I'm really paranoid of being caught in the act.
 
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Sounds like a painless method. A good second choice if I can't end up getting hold of SN.



Thank you for the information. Can I ask how you selected the place to do this? I can't imagine finding a secluded spot at night would be too difficult especially with the current lock-down in the UK but I'm really paranoid of being caught in the act.

Well, my original intent was to do it in my car inside my garage, but my garage was broken so I ended up doing it in my driveway.
 
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mr nobody, did you also seal the vents and doors with tape? Is that important? I've been wondering that a car is not air proof and the amount of air that leaks in depends from the brand of the car.. Maybe it's not that important, because once CO ties to blood cells, it is not released that quickly; so even if the concentration of CO in the car decreases, it will not result in a failed attempt.
To avoid opening the door or sitting in the car since the beginning (low CO levels) I was thinking of letting a tube out of a window (sealed with tape all around it) and connect it to a face mask, so that I can sit in the car and breath normally while CO builds up in the car. Then I drop the mask (and seal it) and start breathing CO
 
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Sounds like a painless method. A good second choice if I can't end up getting hold of SN.



Thank you for the information. Can I ask how you selected the place to do this? I can't imagine finding a secluded spot at night would be too difficult especially with the current lock-down in the UK but I'm really paranoid of being caught in the act.

That's a risk. I drove about 20 minutes outside of the town I live in yesterday and turned down the first "country" lane saw. Lots of little lay bys, and it was quite a nice drive. Might be different driving at night - if the old bill stop me I can hardly say I'm coming home from work. Try searching for "dead ends" (no pun intended) - no through traffic
 
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mr nobody, did you also seal the vents and doors with tape? Is that important? I've been wondering that a car is not air proof and the amount of air that leaks in depends from the brand of the car.. Maybe it's not that important, because once CO ties to blood cells, it is not released that quickly; so even if the concentration of CO in the car decreases, it will not result in a failed attempt.
To avoid opening the door or sitting in the car since the beginning (low CO levels) I was thinking of letting a tube out of a window (sealed with tape all around it) and connect it to a face mask, so that I can sit in the car and breath normally while CO builds up in the car. Then I drop the mask (and seal it) and start breathing CO

I did not use tape to seal the vents and doors. I just closed the vents manually. The tube idea actually sounds good. I would think that using tape is not essential. There's definitely enough CO in the car to succeed. Though sealing with tape may help.
 
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I tried this method in the past (few times) and failed bad. First I lived in a hot country - so this method only works in cold climates because the heat builds up really fast in the car.

Important to have the bbq pit resting on a stone or something - even with that, once the stone heats it,it might end up burning the floor of your car. My first try I put the bbq pit on a stone and the stone inside a basin of water. Which was stupid because it ended up creating a sauna inside the car.

And somehow for me, or maybe I used the wrong charcoal or something.. I ended up smelling the smell emitted from the charcoal. I know it's supposed to be odorless but yeah I had a really pungent smell. Kind of acidic mixed with something. Maybe it could have been the fire starting liquid I used to start to pit. I have no idea. Mind me, I waited for the charcoal to be white before transferring into the car - so it was not an immediate transfer.

This method is not as easy as it seems. So reconsider or plan very well.
 
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Apologies if I've missed a thread about this. I tried to search for one and got
"Oops! We ran into some problems."

I'm new to the site and want some advice. I won't be an active member and I don't have concrete plans to ctb but I would like to know that I am in control of things.

I have a small car and I've purchased 3 disposable BBQs from a supermarket - all are around 500G. Lumpwood charcol. I've got 3 bricks in the boot (trunk) for them to rest on, and I've got a bag with gaffer tape for the windows, doors and vents. I've got a book to read, a notepad to write in and I am considering something to help me go to sleep. I originally thought to just wait until I'm really tired but adrenaline is a mo'fo. I don't smoke weed anymore but can easily get some, I'm fairly sure it would put me to sleep as my tolerance is gone (it's been years) and I'm pretty boring in that I don't know anyone who can get me knock-out pills (or what would work). I'm a big guy. Just over 6'2 and 300lbs.

I've read stories about people who have gone with less than this and just want to make sure I'm not missing anything. I've got a quiet spot picked out and I think that if it comes to it I'll be okay.

I'm not a fetishist and I'm not looking for attention. Good luck to you all in whatever you decide to do. I'm being honest. I'm not actively planning to go - I haven't got a date - but knowing it's in my hands brings me more comfort than I can say. I just don't want to have to try twice. Thanks in advance.

You can get some stuff to help you with sleep. Not sure what's OTC where you live, but if you have an excuse ready- nervousness for a big presentation or an exam etc. a Pharmacist wouldn't bat an eyelid. You can also get stronger stuff from a GP like benzos or zoiclone. Test whatever you use a couple times so you know how soon it kicks in and any side effects.
 
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I used a brick that I set directly on top of the floor mat. If you use water, the water will flash into steam. There is definitely a smell because of the material that was burning, plus the charcoal itself. There should be no smoke though. Also, the amount of charcoal used is important relative to the volume of the car.

I agree that it is tough to do when it's hot already inside the car. It would be best to do when it's on the cooler side (not necessarily freezing, but at least not hot to the point that you're already sweating when you get in the car).
 
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Hi, I'm new to the forum, this is my first post. I plan to ctb using the method in OP but I need some advice. I have the charcoal ready and plan to do it in a 3x3 m bathroom which is probably bigger than a car, how much charcoal do I need? also I read in another discussion that you need briquettes, I don't have those as they aren't sold where I live, only regular charcoal, would that be enough? how long should i light it before moving it inside? how long does it go on burning its own? if you have any advice feel free to share as I might do it soon.
 
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Hi, I'm new to the forum, this is my first post. I plan to ctb using the method in OP but I need some advice. I have the charcoal ready and plan to do it in a 3x3 m bathroom which is probably bigger than a car, how much charcoal do I need? also I read in another discussion that you need briquettes, I don't have those as they aren't sold where I live, only regular charcoal, would that be enough? how long should i light it before moving it inside? how long does it go on burning its own? if you have any advice feel free to share as I might do it soon.

See the Carbon Monoxide Megathread in the Resource Compilation.
 
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Hi, I'm new to the forum, this is my first post. I plan to ctb using the method in OP but I need some advice. I have the charcoal ready and plan to do it in a 3x3 m bathroom which is probably bigger than a car, how much charcoal do I need? also I read in another discussion that you need briquettes, I don't have those as they aren't sold where I live, only regular charcoal, would that be enough? how long should i light it before moving it inside? how long does it go on burning its own? if you have any advice feel free to share as I might do it soon.

You would also need to seal the door and vents inside with like a cloth. The charcoal should burn until there are no more flames and it's just embers (grey in color, some red). A room is more difficult because it's larger and so you will need a lot more charcoal than a car. I don't think you'll find a definite answer in the mega thread as to how much exactly you will need. There is a way to calculate it based on volume and mass of charcoal, though (I don't know it off the top of my head). Also, if it's in a bathroom inside a house, the possibility of CO leaking out into the living room and setting off the CO alarm is a possibility. Also consider the people who will have access to that bathroom after. They will be at risk as well.
 
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I'm thinking of using a portable grill and place it in the back of my car.
The types that are standing on small metal legs might provide some isolation from the carpet. The metal lid with holes avoids dangers of fire, while still allowing smoke to escape.

 
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I'm thinking of using a portable grill and place it in the back of my car.
The types that are standing on small metal legs might provide some isolation from the carpet. The metal lid with holes avoids dangers of fire, while still allowing smoke to escape.


When carbon monoxide is being produced there should be no smoke. CO is an odorless, tasteless, invisible gas.
 
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