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toomuchgrief

a grieving mother
Sep 15, 2019
401
I live alone but I rent, I don't want to make a hole to my rent apartment, the poor landlord and the neighbors next to me. It best I put in my notice and go elsewhere to finish myself.

But then if I go to the hotel and finish myself the poor hotel employees and guests in the next room too.

So what is the best way (as in where) to shot yourself with a Kel-Tec KSG 12 gauge shotgun using slug (because slug will make a hole). Still debate between slug and 00 buckshots, as buckshots it smaller pellets but it spread out like fireworks, guarantee it will get at least a part of your brain blast out.
But I'm going to stick with slug, as it the most powerful for a shotgun.

So let say if I do it at a hotel. How to get around it? So I put the shotgun in rolling luggage pretend like it my clothes in there. Hotels usually don't check your luggage, I be damn if they check and found a shotgun in there though, but I got to take the risk.
So rent a room, put a Do Not disturb sign, lock the door. And bam to my skull, right?
For sure gunshot will be heard and police will come soon. So let hope I be dead by the time anyone get there.

Money is not a problem, so I need to sign up for a shooting class this week. I will order the KelTec shotgun and bring it to the shooting class and learn to at least aim correctly.
Not that I'm going to tell them I aim at my head, but at least know how to shoot. I just tell them I use the shotgun for self-defense home protection and deer hunting.

IF you go the gun route, "Where" would you CTB?

eta: oh and there stories of people who shot themselves in the hotel, but they use a "handgun", not a shotgun. Big difference here. Handgun bullet it not powerful like the 12 gauge shotgun slug where it would penetrate through walls. So where would be ideal to go with the shotgun?
 
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Darkhaven

Darkhaven

All i have left is memories
May 19, 2019
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Guns are totally out of question for me as i'm in the EU and they are very hard to get. I also don't think i could get the courage to do it.
But if i did, i would do it as far away from people as possible.
For several reasons:
1- To drop any chances of being saved to 0%. A shotgun slug to the brain is a sure kill 99,9% of the times i guess, but still... you never know what might happen. What if you flinch and don't hit the right spot?
2- To avoid traumatizing people and causing a panic with the sound of the shot. I'm still considerate of others. A shotgun will make a lot of noise specially indoors.
 
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toomuchgrief

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Sep 15, 2019
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A shotgun slug to the brain is a sure kill 99,9% of the times i guess, but still... you never know what might happen. What if you flinch and don't hit the right spot?

Thank you very much for your insight.
This is my main worry due to I never hold a shotgun before in my life. This is why I will start taking shotgun classes first to learn first.
And I'm a woman too, with no shotgun experience prior, I'm afraid I might flinch and the slug don't go ""in" thorugh my brain, but it brush to the side of my brain and leave my brain intact.

This is why I think plunge 1,000 feet free fall to my death is better, due to I will let gravity do it work you know what I mean. Perhaps this is a better way?
A shotgun I'm relying on my brain only to kill myself, so my brain need to be dead or else I still be alive. A free fall impact will give me injuries throughout my whole body and organs, so perhaps more chance of make it to the other side.

And yeah, a shotgun slug if do correctly will blow at least half my face off, so I do feel bad for the hotel employees and the peps next door. I'm scare it might punch a hole through the wall you know, 12 gauge slug ammo has the ability to do that.

So you think if I drive my car up to the mountain somewhere, and blast my head in the car would work? Wouldn't the car space be too small, wouldn't the slug need like a space to exit? Perhaps roll down my car windows?
If I'm up somewhere in the mountain, at least the sound will be less, and not have to worry about punch through the hotel wall right? Tbh, I do feel bad for the hotel and the people there.
 
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charlie_z

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Apr 30, 2018
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So what is the best way (as in where) to shot yourself with a Kel-Tec KSG 12 gauge shotgun using slug
Yeah. Let's be honest; the impact to your body (e.g. your head) is going to make a large mess. I mean, there are possible ways of mitigating the damage to the room. I saw a video (one night of morbid curiosity that I will never repeat) where a young man set-up a kind of tarp laced around two poles. The idea being to contain the ejected material. I don't know if it stopped the bullet from traversing his trap, but it did isolate the spread of damage. A thought, maybe?
 
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Taki

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Jul 30, 2019
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Why not in the woods? Better to traumatize as few people as possible. I wouldn't do that to the hotel staff, it seems malicious.
 
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toomuchgrief

a grieving mother
Sep 15, 2019
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Well here in USA (the state I'm at), we have National parks and State parks where there alot of trees. I never been in there so I don't know how to get a 12 gauge shotgun in there to work, I not sure if all the areas in the National parks here just let you drive your car around. If they won't, you have to walk, so what I do? Just drag a luggage with a 12 gauge shotgun in there, walk to a empty place and bam my brain off?
 
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Taki

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Well here in USA (the state I'm at), we have National parks and State parks where there alot of trees. I never been in there so I don't know how to get a 12 gauge shotgun in there to work, I not sure if all the areas in the National parks here just let you drive your car around. If they won't, you have to walk, so what I do? Just drag a luggage with a 12 gauge shotgun in there, walk to a empty place and bam my brain off?
I don't know. What I'm saying is, if you think your landlord deserves consideration, then other people do too. That includes hotel staff or any one who's going to be charged with discovering your remains and cleaning them up. Suicide doesn't exempt us from morality.
 
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toomuchgrief

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Sep 15, 2019
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Yeah, I agreed. This is why I'm iffy on the hotel thing. I do feel terrible for the hotel and the people in it.
There alot of people do it with a handgun, less mess. But a 12 gauge shotgun slug, will go through your skull and fly to the wall.

I did think of drive my car to the mountain and finish myself. But then a car is small closed space, don't the slug need an exit somewhere? Perhaps I should roll down my car windows?
 
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TAW122

Emissary of the right to die.
Aug 30, 2018
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A slug may need a exit, but I don't think it would be a big deal since your head will absorb the majority of the energy by the slug and also a car's interior is thick enough so it should slow the projectile even more. At worst, if it does leave the car, it would be less likely to hit others. Don't quote me on ballistics because I don't know all the details about it, but just based on my understanding, when most of the projectile's energy has been absorbed and taken away (after damaging the brain and grey matter), then it's damage will be greatly reduced.
 
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toomuchgrief

a grieving mother
Sep 15, 2019
401
A slug may need a exit, but I don't think it would be a big deal since your head will absorb the majority of the energy by the slug and also a car's interior is thick enough so it should slow the projectile even more. At worst, if it does leave the car, it would be less likely to hit others. Don't quote me on ballistics because I don't know all the details about it, but just based on my understanding, when most of the projectile's energy has been absorbed and taken away (after damaging the brain and grey matter), then it's damage will be greatly reduced.

So if like you said inside the car is thick so it slow the projectile even more. Um... does that mean I'm going to die if I blast it in my skull? Even if it slow down, it should go through my skull right?

And since I aim the gun skin to skin to my head, is a slug needed? Or 00 buckshot is fine? Part of me think of buckshot due to it will spread out more (9 pellets) so chances is one of those pellets must hit the critical point of my brain.
 
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CrushedHopes

Ex-narcissist that is looking to end himself soon
Nov 3, 2019
471
Shotgun CTB is most definitely going to end you, but what I don't get is why you'd go so far as to sign up for shotgun classes just so you'd have a gruesome death where your head isn't even intact afterwards. On top of that, you have other concerns such as flinching and leaving a mess for others to clean up if you were to shotgun CTB in your apartment or hotel.

With the money you have, SN is more than sufficient. No need to go as far as to blast your head open with a shotgun or jump from 1000ft. I'm not going to talk you out of doing them; just trying to be logical here.
 
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Heart of Ice

Chillin'
Sep 26, 2019
362
Shotgun CTB is most definitely going to end you, but what I don't get is why you'd go so far as to sign up for shotgun classes just so you'd have a gruesome death where your head isn't even intact afterwards. On top of that, you have other concerns such as flinching and leaving a mess for others to clean up if you were to shotgun CTB in your apartment or hotel.

With the money you have, SN is more than sufficient. No need to go as far as to blast your head open with a shotgun or jump from 1000ft. I'm not going to talk you out of doing them; just trying to be logical here.
Shotgun to head seems logical to me: Fast (basically instant) and very, very reliable. Of course if the mess isn't an issue.

@toomuchgrief, your profile scares me. I'm scared of what my suicide will do to my mother.
 
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toomuchgrief

a grieving mother
Sep 15, 2019
401
your profile scares me. I'm scared of what my suicide will do to my mother.

oh, sorry. English is not my native language. So maybe that wording cause misunderstanding.

The mom is me, my toddler died and I became suicidal since the death of my toddler son.

I don't have any family left, so by me go, no one will be hurt. My mom died when I was young, I was raised by my grandma, and my grandma already passed away too. I don't have any blood family left.

My son was my reason for living, but then my son he died too, died very young in fact, only toddler age.

So this is it. Not hurting anyone if I die.
My son on the other side probably wouldn't want me--mom to suicide, but oh well, it is what it is. When you have this many loses, you basically lost the will to live.
 
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Heart of Ice

Chillin'
Sep 26, 2019
362
oh, sorry. English is not my native language. So maybe that wording cause misunderstanding.

The mom is me, my toddler died and I became suicidal since the death of my toddler son.

I don't have any family left, so by me go, no one will be hurt. My mom died when I was young, I was raised by my grandma, and my grandma already passed away too. I don't have any blood family left.

My son was my reason for living, but then my son he died too, died very young in fact, only toddler age.

So this is it. Not hurting anyone if I die.
My son on the other side probably wouldn't want me--mom to suicide, but oh well, it is what it is. When you have this many loses, you basically lost the will to live.
There was no misunderstanding. My mother is alive. I don't know what will happen to her when I'm gone. I have a sister, too.
 
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toomuchgrief

a grieving mother
Sep 15, 2019
401
@Heart of Ice
Well then you have more, ALOTTTT more to live for than me. You very lucky. I would give my life just so my son can come back to life for one day.

So if I use a shotgun to my head, if I drive my car to the mountain away from people. And sit in my car and blast my head off. Wouldn't the car be too closed space for the slug ammo to travel? Just want to make sure the ammo blast my skull out first before it bounce around the car, lol.
 
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CarefulWithThatAxe

Experienced
Nov 7, 2019
296
I wish i lived in the US firearm would be my CTB choice.
 
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Reyki6667

Student
Oct 11, 2019
177
If you get a hang with your shotgun recoil, and made sure to aim your medulla oblungata from the inside of your mouth. You die.
And I don't think I'll worry about the carb....
If you do it inside the roof might get blasted too.
Drive somewhere near to the woods, on deep inside, you may blast yourself.
And even In an hotel, several people will notice the mess, the one too discover it, then the directing staff, then the police, then the cleaning staff and repairs....
 
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Whitewash11235814

Experienced
Oct 21, 2019
207
Go somewhere remote or at least somewhere where there are no people.

If its possible you could call 911 and explain whats about to happen 5 mins or less before you pull the trigger(Do this only if you're 110% sure you're going thru w/ it, otherwise don't do it.) This way they'll be the ones to find you first.

Those people signed up for this and they have experience dealing with deaths like yours. Hotel staff or clientele or anyone else for that matter never signed up for this.
 
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