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Forever Sleep

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They used either this phrase or, something similar in the Netflix series: Sirens.

Are there things you shed because you recognised they were doing you harm? My biggest ones were: Limerent crushes on guys and binge eating. Both very nice and comforting in their own way. But, ultimately mind/ body screwing up.

I suppose to a more questionable level, quitting social media was good. I kind of quit friendships and trust in anyone too, to a larger extent. Which has kept me on an even keel- which has been good. It doesn't exactly make life joyous though!

Of the things I'd like to shed: Unhealthy/ comfort eating. Not as bad as outright binging but, still not good. Lazyness/ pracrastination. It feels nice but ultimately makes my living situation worse. And obviously- I'd like to shed my life! It's not serving me at all. I'm just serving those in charge ultimately and, my parents by struggling on.
 
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I shed a lot of expectations. A lot of relationships. I'm whatever about "shedding habits," at this point; it's all pretty cyclic. Moderation+self-awareness is all I care about rn, rather than denying myself. Inevitably if I crave something I'll go back to it one day.
 
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Maybe excess online activity (when uni starts, excess will be shed to allow for coursework)
 
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Thank you for reminding me. I really needed this "quote" today.
 
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This advice works when there are things in your life that you control and can either eliminate or replace with a more palatable alternative... but what if the thing sucking your joy away is work? You can't not work... unless like me you are ready to give up. Even if finding a different job is something you can do where you are, what happens when that job isn't any better on your nerves?

Sometimes the things that you need to shed for your sanity are the things you cannot shed for necessity. That's when you realize you are well and truly fucked.
 
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This advice works when there are things in your life that you control and can either eliminate or replace with a more palatable alternative... but what if the thing sucking your joy away is work? You can't not work... unless like me you are ready to give up. Even if finding a different job is something you can do where you are, what happens when that job isn't any better on your nerves?

Sometimes the things that you need to shed for your sanity are the things you cannot shed for necessity. That's when you realize you are well and truly fucked.
If you wish, you may be able to find a better job, even if it takes some extra effort and a few tries before the right job is there. There may even be the possibility of starting a business, even https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_KFC started as a small store.
 
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This advice works when there are things in your life that you control and can either eliminate or replace with a more palatable alternative... but what if the thing sucking your joy away is work? You can't not work... unless like me you are ready to give up. Even if finding a different job is something you can do where you are, what happens when that job isn't any better on your nerves?

Sometimes the things that you need to shed for your sanity are the things you cannot shed for necessity. That's when you realize you are well and truly fucked.

Yeah- true. That's partly why I want to shed my life. Because I'm sick and tired of the unavoidable reality of having to work to pay for all this shit.
If you wish, you may be able to find a better job, even if it takes some extra effort and a few tries before the right job is there. There may even be the possibility of starting a business, even https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_KFC started as a small store.

It sounds so easy/ good on paper but- have you ever personally tried to run your own business? Or, tried multiple jobs?

I'd say my job is as good as it's going to get- for me. But, it still has massive frustrations. Plus, I'm just simply tired of working now. It's maybe not quite so easy to pick a job where you can be lazy! How will that job interview look? 'Is there that much work to do? Because, I feel pretty tired/ lethargic these days.'

In regards to running your own company, you've got to be pretty lucky to happen on something that takes off in a big way for starters. Even running an Etsy store say, will get you involved in things you may not particularly want. It sounds idyllic crafting away each day, until a customer's item gets lost or damaged in the post. Till they start adding messages when they purchase, that they want it personalised. What do you do? Refuse the sale? Contact them to say you want extra for that? Bearing in mind, with social media now, bad reviews can really harm you.

Any freelance work isn't taxed at source so, you need to fill in a tax return. Even if you get Accountant, you need to be mindful to keep a note and evidence of all your overheads and income. You end up having to wear multiple hats. Effectively, doing multiple people's jobs.

Let's say though- even with the KFC example. Maybe the man who set it up's real passion was cooking. How likely would it be that they would spend the bulk of their time cooking? Wouldn't it be more likely they would spend their time organising everything else?

They could hand those managing reigns over to someone else but- the level of trust needs to be huge there. Take for example, the brothers behind McDonald's. If the documentary film: 'The Founder' is to be believed, then a salesman who took an interest in the company and joined them to help expand it, eventually ended up buying it out from underneath them. It looked as if he gave them a blank cheque- to name their price but, none the less- he knew he would be screwing them over.

A person can even end up displeased with the direction their own company takes, once it's so big that it's now in the hands of multiple others. Colonel Sanders actually travelled this path. As probably lots would recommend- he tried to set up alone once again with his wife, opening their own restauraunt and got sued by his original company as a result! A summary of his low points from Google beneath...

It's not to trash your idea but, I think it can be much harder than people realise. I used to get it a lot: 'Why don't you create your own company?' Because I've worked for small companies! The people that run them are under terrific pressure. They are generally optimistic, gregarious people for a start. They have to employ and energise their workforce each day. And, if things start going wrong- guess who's house gets remortgaged?

It's not to say it's not worth a shot, if it's someone's real passion but, I think they ought to realise what pressure comes with it. As for finding a better job when you're unhappy though- definitely- I think that's worth it. Although again, most jobs have their own shit to deal with- I've found. Maybe you've done better though?

Colonel Saunders wasn't aways happy, experiencing many failures and hardships throughout his life before finding success with KFC in his 60s, and he was reportedly unhappy with the direction KFC took after he sold it, even visiting restaurants to criticize the food. While he became famous and gained affection for his public persona, he was described as a "worrier" and was not entirely satisfied with his success or the company he created.
A Life of Struggle
  • Job failures:
    Before KFC, Sanders held many failed jobs, including insurance salesman and oil lamp salesman, and launched unsuccessful businesses.
  • Legal trouble:
    His legal career ended abruptly after a fight in court with his own client, marking a low point in his life.
  • Perceived failures:
    His biographer noted his repeated failures stemmed from a lack of self-control, impatience, and a lack of diplomacy.
After Selling KFC
  • Dissatisfaction with the company:
    After selling the company in 1964, Sanders was unhappy with how KFC was managed and the decline in food quality, according to Food & Wine.
  • Public criticism:
    He would make surprise visits to KFC restaurants and would publicly denounce the quality of the food, even once knocking food to the floor.
  • Claudia Sanders Dinner House:
    He and his wife later opened their own restaurant, Claudia Sanders Dinner House, which was later the subject of a lawsuit by the new owners of KFC.
 
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Yeah.. it's way easier to say a thing than to do the thing.
 
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@Forever Sleep thanks for the context. I forgot he made another restaurant (and wasn't satisfied with his own company)
@Dejected 55 true... even getting the Bachelor Degree for me seems easier said than done (hoping that next semester also goes well, and I don't feel the need to use the special knowledge I acquired here)
 
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Forever Sleep

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@Forever Sleep thanks for the context. I forgot he made another restaurant (and wasn't satisfied with his own company)
@Dejected 55 true... even getting the Bachelor Degree for me seems easier said than done (hoping that next semester also goes well, and I don't feel the need to use the special knowledge I acquired here)

It's not to say it's impossible- by any means. And, it's not to put people off trying. I suppose though, having been on the end of this kind of platitude a lot: 'Why don't you just work for yourself?... You just need to come up with one genius idea...' It tends to probably grate on me as much as the platitudes we all get for depression/ ideation.

I think we all struggle in our own ways. And, in our own timescales. College wasn't exactly a breeze for me but, it felt somewhat safer than the world of work.
 
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It's not to say it's impossible- by any means. And, it's not to put people off trying. I suppose though, having been on the end of this kind of platitude a lot: 'Why don't you just work for yourself?... You just need to come up with one genius idea...' It tends to probably grate on me as much as the platitudes we all get for depression/ ideation.

I think we all struggle in our own ways. And, in our own timescales. College wasn't exactly a breeze for me but, it felt somewhat safer than the world of work.
mmm, yep.

I hope the world of IT work is even slightly interesting, keeping servers running, fixing surprising issues, etc.
 
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Forever Sleep

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mmm, yep.

I hope the world of IT work is even slightly interesting, keeping servers running, fixing surprising issues, etc.

I imagine it will be in demand at least- that's a good start! If you find the work interesting though, then hopefully it will continue to be. The unpleasantness though, sometimes comes from working with others I've found. Being pressured to do too much in too little a timescale etc. But, hopefully you'll find your niche. And, if entrepreneurship is your aim, I hope you reach it.
 
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I imagine it will be in demand at least- that's a good start! If you find the work interesting though, then hopefully it will continue to be. The unpleasantness though, sometimes comes from working with others I've found. Being pressured to do too much in too little a timescale etc. But, hopefully you'll find your niche. And, if entrepreneurship is your aim, I hope you reach it.
thanks. I also found some awesome study group, still in the discord even tho the group was technically meant to be temporary. Hopefully I can find good ppl to work with... and I'm not afraid to put in a 2 weeks notice if there are very toxic ppl that are hard to avoid. (If the company turns the 2 week notice into less than 2 days... won't be a big issue coz I'd likely have started working before I truly needed the $, since I live in a family house, merely paying with chores somehow)
 
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It's not to say it's impossible- by any means. And, it's not to put people off trying. I suppose though, having been on the end of this kind of platitude a lot: 'Why don't you just work for yourself?... You just need to come up with one genius idea...' It tends to probably grate on me as much as the platitudes we all get for depression/ ideation.

I think we all struggle in our own ways. And, in our own timescales. College wasn't exactly a breeze for me but, it felt somewhat safer than the world of work.

A lot of people, even well-meaning people are woefully detached from reality.

When my father was still alive, a decade or so ago... there was a time when I was taking to him about his mother. My father was the youngest of 9 children, and his father died of a heart attack when my father was just 3 years old. His mother, my grandmother, had a 3rd grade education and was born in 1903. She had never worked professionally a day in her life, though she did have lots of good skills growing up on a farm and sewing/knitting, etc. She still had 5 children in the home to raise when she lost her husband and she was able to get a job at a clothing manufacturer and support herself and her children with what she brought to the table.

She was an admirable woman all around for all the things she was able to accomplish, so I meant her no lack of respect at all... but this was around 2010 or so I believe, and I just off-handedly noted to my father that as impressive as she was... if that happened to her in 2010, I don't know if she could have done it. The world is significantly different now than when all these "guy starts a corporation in his garage" stories that people like to bring up.

My father was a little offended at first by what I said, and I explained what I meant... the skills she had put her in a good position for the type of manufacturing skilled labor jobs that still existed in the 1940s-1950s in this country. By the 1980s, when I was a young teen, most of that had dried up... and you just couldn't walk off the street into a job that would support you and a half dozen kids quite so easily no matter how hard you were willing to work. He finally understand what I was saying.

Heck, my first job was at a movie theater in 1986, and back then I could actually walk into the theater and knock on the manager's door and ask for an application and get an interview on the spot and land that job. First job I ever tried for, landed easily because I was able to talk to the man who needed to hire and show him who I was in the moment. You literally haven't been able to do that at almost any job since the early 2000s. I drive past fast food places, you know, the ones that people say are "starter jobs" or for "kids in school" and they want you to apply via your smartphone... you know, the smartphone you aren't supposed to have if you are poor or a kid... according to those same people who like to judge.

If you actually did have a good tech idea and tried to start something in your garage, Microsoft or Apple or Google or someone would crush you before you became a threat or force a leveraged buyout of your idea so that you don't come away with nothing.

And that "learn to code" thing from not so long ago? That aged poorly anyway, but now with AI doing coding... AI can't write perfect code, but it can do a decent job at starter code that you need far less people to refine than if everyone was coding from scratch. It's actually the kind of job AI will be really good at replacing people.
 
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